The Sufi, The Salafi & Akhirruzaman By Sheikh Imran Hosein

[barhaich]

This lecture is sublime, please do not ignore.

Summary of lecture:

Whether you are a Sufi (i.e. barelvi, ahle sunna jamaah, shia etc),

or a Salafi (i.e. tableegh jamaat, deobandi, athari etc);

you will only be a true Muslim when you realize that Islam is about establishing the complete deen, which is one's Mazhab (personal creed)

combined with the entire Islamic system (shariah).

Sheikh highlights the economic system as the most sinful aspect of this modern world order,

and the only achievement for the ummah would be in getting rid of this riba-based economic system.

 

[Cheeko]

To cut short his longish boring lectures atleast he has begun to dye his hair brown because till recently he used to dye his hair black but he has realised his mistake. He now needs to change his ring wearing habit also and make this habit in accordance with Sunnah as well which is unanimously agreed upon by various scholars to wear it on the little finger instead of the ring finger.


Anas Bin Malik (may Allah be pleased with him) said: “The Prophet (peace be upon him) got a ring made for himself and said, “I have got a ring made (for myself) and engraved a certain engraving on it so none of you should get such an engraving on his ring.” I saw the glitter of the ring on his little finger. ” [Sahih Al-Bukhari (no. 5874). Imam al-Bukhari named that chapter: “The ring in the little finger”]

Ali Bin Abi Talib (may Allah be pleased with him) reported: Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) forbade me that I should wear a ring in this and that finger of mine, and he pointed to the middle finger and the next one. [Sahih Muslim (no. 2078)]


No Sufi is even bothered about what you say about them as Sufis have been facing criticism from their critics from ancient times. Today no one even remembers them but Sufis are still around. Even those Sufis who are in the graves are remembered as if they are still around.

 

[Cheeko]

The scholars of Islam, may Allah have Mercy on them, have a difference in opinion about which finger the Prophet of Allah (peace be upon him) wore it in the right hand or the left: First Opinion: Left Hand.

This is the opinion of the scholars of the Hanafi, Maliki and Hanbali schools of thought.

It is mentioned in Rad Al-Mukhtar (5/230), a book of the Hanafi school:

“(In his left hand) and it should be worn in the little finger (pinkie), not the other fingers, and neither the right hand. Al-Kohistani narrated from Al-Muheet: It is permissible to wear it in the right hand, except that it is a sign of the Rafidhis (extreme Shi’ite, who revile the Companions).”

It is mentioned in Hashiat Al-’Adawi ‘ala kifayat al-Talib (2/360), a book of the Maliki school:

“the choice of the majority of the scholars, including Imam Malik, is that it is praiseworthy (mandub) to wear the ring in the left hand. Imam Malik use to wear it in the left hand.”

Another Maliki scholar, Abu Al-Waleed Al-Baji, may Allah have Mercy on him, said:

“Ahl Al-Sunnah (people of Sunnah) are in consensus that the ring should be worn in the left hand,. It is also the opinion of Imam Malik, and he disliked (makruh) that it should be worn in the right hand. And he (Malik) said that the right hand is used to eat, drink and work, so how can one use his left hand to wear the ring in the right hand.” [Al-Muntaqa Sharh Al-Mu'atta (7/256)]

It is mentioned in Kashaaf al-Qina’ (2/236), a book of the Hanbali school:

“Wearing the ring in the little finger of the left hand is better than wearing it in the little finger of the right hand, as explicitly narrated from Imam Ahmed in the reports of Salih and Al-Fadhl. This is more established and more authentic. Al-Athram and others reported that Imam Ahmed declared the narrations of wearing the ring in the right hand as weak.

Imam Al-Daraqutni and others said: The well-preserved narration from Prophet (peace be upon him) is that he used to wear the ring in his left hand.”

The proofs of this opinion are as follows:

• Anas Bin Malik (may Allah be please with him) said, “The ring of Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) was on this”, and he pointed toward the little finger of his left hand. [Sahih Muslim, (no. 2095)]
• It was the practice of the majority of the Companions (may Allah be please with them). In fact, Ibn Abi Shaibah reported in Al-Musannaf (6/68) with his own chains of narrations from Abu Bakr, ‘Umar, ‘Uthman, Al-Hasan, Al-Hussain, Ibn ‘Umar, Al-Qasim, Salim and other eminent Muslims of the earliest generations of Islam that they used to wear their rings in the left hand.
• Wearing it in the left hand makes it easy for the wearer to take it off with the right hand to stamp (documents etc with the ring) with the right hand. Rings were mostly worn for the purpose of stamping (documents, letters etc.) with them. Hence, wearing it in the left hand was more suitable for fulfilling this purpose.
• Wearing the ring in the right hand is the practice of the Rafidhis (extreme Shi’ite, who revile the Companions), and it recommended to oppose Ahl Al-Bid’ah (innovators).

Second Opinion: Right Hand.

This is the opinion of the Shafa’ii school of thought.

Imam Al-Nawawi, may Allah be pleased with him, said in Al-Majmu’ (a book of the Shafa’ii school):

“It is permissible for a man to wear a silver ring in the little finger of the left hand, or if he wants, in the little finger of the right hand, as both practices have been authentically narrated from the Prophet (peace be upon him). However, the sahih mashhur (correct and well-known position of the Shafa’ii school) is that it is better to wear it in the right hand, since it is an adornment and the right hand is more honored. The author of Al-Ibanah said that it is better to wear it in the left, since wearing it in the right has become a sign of the Rafidhis (extreme Shi’ite, who revile the Companions)….but the first opinion is correct, and it not their sign in most cities. Even if it were their sign, wearing it in the right should not be abandoned and how can a Sunnah be abandoned because a sect of innovators is doing it. In Sunan Abi Dawud, it has been narrated with an authentic (Sahih) chain of narrators from Ibn ‘Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) that he used to wear the ring in his left hand, and with a good (hasan) chain from Ibn ‘Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) that he used to wear it in his right.” [Al-Majmu' (4/462)]


The proofs for this opinion are:

• Imam Al-Bukhari [hadith no. 5876] reported from ‘Abdullah Bin ‘Umar : The Prophet had a golden ring made for himself, and when he wore it. he used to turn its stone toward the palm of his hand. So the people too had gold made for themselves. The Prophet then ascended the pulpit, and after glorifying and praising Allah, he said, “I had it made for me, but now I will never wear it again.” He threw it away, and then the people threw away their rings too. (Juwairiya, a sub-narrator, said: I think Anas said that the Prophet was wearing the ring in his right hand.) Imam Muslim also narrated the hadith (no. 2091) in which too the right hand is explicitly mentioned.
• Anas b. Malik (may Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) wore a silver ring on his right hand which had an Abyssinian stone in it, and he kept its stone towards the palm. [Sahih Muslim (no. 2094)]
• ‘Abdullah Bin Ja’far (may Allah be pleased with him) narrated that the Prophet (peace be upon him) used to wear the ring in his right hand. [Musnad Imam Ahmed (3/265)] The researchers of the Musnad Imam Ahmed published by Al-Risalah Establishment said it is hasan (good, well-preserved narration). Imam Al-Bukhari said: “It is the most authentic thing reported from the Prophet (peace be upon him) in this subject.” [Sunan Al-Tirmithi (no. 1744)]
• Imam al-Tirmithi said: “In this subject, there are narrations from ‘Ali, Jabir, ‘Abdullah Bin Ja’far, Ibn ‘Abbas, ‘Aishah, Anas and the hadith of Ibn ‘Umar (the none in Sahih al-Bukhari, above) is hasan sahih (good and authentic).”
• The scholars of this opinion also use the fact that “the Prophet used to like to start from the right side on wearing shoes, combing his hair and cleaning or washing himself and on doing anything else” [Sahih Al-Bukhari (no. 169)] for supporting their opinion. Since wearing a ring is part of adornment, it is recommended to wear it in the right hand.

They replied to the proofs of the first opinion (that it is better to wear it in the left hand) by saying that the hadiths mentioning the right hand in tis regard are more numerous and more authentic, hence they should be preferred over others.

Ibn Hajar Al-Haitami, may Allah be pleased with him, said: “It is better to wear it in the right hand, since the hadiths about it are more numerous.” [Tuhfat Al-Muhtaj (3/276)]

Similarly, Imam Al-Nawawi replied to their contention that wearing the ring in the right hand is characteristic of the Rafidhis, by saying:

“It not their sign in most cities. Even if it were their sign, wearing it in the right should not be abandoned and how can a Sunnah be abandoned because a sect of innovators is doing it.” [Al-Majmu' (4/462)]

As far as their using the practice of wearing the ring in the left hand of some Companions as evidence for their opinion is concerned, then it can be said that other Companions (may Allah be pleased with them all) have been reported to wear it in the right hand. Ibn Abi Shaibah in Al-Musannaf (6/65) narrated that Ibn ‘Abbas, Ja’far Bin Muhammad, ‘Abdullah Bin Ja’far used to wear it in their right hands. In fact Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani, may Allah be pleased with him, said:

“It has been narrated from Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and numerous Companions and Followers (Tabi’oon, people who lived in the Companions’ lifetime) of Medina and others, that they used to wear their rings in the right hand.” [Fath Al-Bari (10/372)]



Third Opinion: Either Hand.

Some scholars are of the opinion that it is permissible to wear the ring in either hand: left or right. This will make one follow all the hadiths mentioned in this regard.

Imam Ibn Qayyim (may Allah be pleased with him) said:

“There are varying account from the Prophet (peace be upon him) about whether he used to wear it in the right or the left, and all of them are authentically reported.” [Zad Al-Ma'ad (1/139)]

Sheikh Ibn ‘Uthaimin, may Allah be pleased with him, said:

“The correct opinion is that the Sunnah is to wear it in the right and the left (i.e. either of the two).” [Al-Sharh Al-Mumti' (6/110)]

 

[rafay1122]

The scholars of Islam, may Allah have Mercy on them, have a difference in opinion about which finger the Prophet of Allah (peace be upon him) wore it in the right hand or the left: First Opinion: Left Hand.

This is the opinion of the scholars of the Hanafi, Maliki and Hanbali schools of thought.

It is mentioned in Rad Al-Mukhtar (5/230), a book of the Hanafi school:

“(In his left hand) and it should be worn in the little finger (pinkie), not the other fingers, and neither the right hand. Al-Kohistani narrated from Al-Muheet: It is permissible to wear it in the right hand, except that it is a sign of the Rafidhis (extreme Shi’ite, who revile the Companions).”

It is mentioned in Hashiat Al-’Adawi ‘ala kifayat al-Talib (2/360), a book of the Maliki school:

“the choice of the majority of the scholars, including Imam Malik, is that it is praiseworthy (mandub) to wear the ring in the left hand. Imam Malik use to wear it in the left hand.”

Another Maliki scholar, Abu Al-Waleed Al-Baji, may Allah have Mercy on him, said:

“Ahl Al-Sunnah (people of Sunnah) are in consensus that the ring should be worn in the left hand,. It is also the opinion of Imam Malik, and he disliked (makruh) that it should be worn in the right hand. And he (Malik) said that the right hand is used to eat, drink and work, so how can one use his left hand to wear the ring in the right hand.” [Al-Muntaqa Sharh Al-Mu'atta (7/256)]

It is mentioned in Kashaaf al-Qina’ (2/236), a book of the Hanbali school:

“Wearing the ring in the little finger of the left hand is better than wearing it in the little finger of the right hand, as explicitly narrated from Imam Ahmed in the reports of Salih and Al-Fadhl. This is more established and more authentic. Al-Athram and others reported that Imam Ahmed declared the narrations of wearing the ring in the right hand as weak.

Imam Al-Daraqutni and others said: The well-preserved narration from Prophet (peace be upon him) is that he used to wear the ring in his left hand.”

The proofs of this opinion are as follows:

• Anas Bin Malik (may Allah be please with him) said, “The ring of Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) was on this”, and he pointed toward the little finger of his left hand. [Sahih Muslim, (no. 2095)]
• It was the practice of the majority of the Companions (may Allah be please with them). In fact, Ibn Abi Shaibah reported in Al-Musannaf (6/68) with his own chains of narrations from Abu Bakr, ‘Umar, ‘Uthman, Al-Hasan, Al-Hussain, Ibn ‘Umar, Al-Qasim, Salim and other eminent Muslims of the earliest generations of Islam that they used to wear their rings in the left hand.
• Wearing it in the left hand makes it easy for the wearer to take it off with the right hand to stamp (documents etc with the ring) with the right hand. Rings were mostly worn for the purpose of stamping (documents, letters etc.) with them. Hence, wearing it in the left hand was more suitable for fulfilling this purpose.
• Wearing the ring in the right hand is the practice of the Rafidhis (extreme Shi’ite, who revile the Companions), and it recommended to oppose Ahl Al-Bid’ah (innovators).

Second Opinion: Right Hand.

This is the opinion of the Shafa’ii school of thought.

Imam Al-Nawawi, may Allah be pleased with him, said in Al-Majmu’ (a book of the Shafa’ii school):

“It is permissible for a man to wear a silver ring in the little finger of the left hand, or if he wants, in the little finger of the right hand, as both practices have been authentically narrated from the Prophet (peace be upon him). However, the sahih mashhur (correct and well-known position of the Shafa’ii school) is that it is better to wear it in the right hand, since it is an adornment and the right hand is more honored. The author of Al-Ibanah said that it is better to wear it in the left, since wearing it in the right has become a sign of the Rafidhis (extreme Shi’ite, who revile the Companions)….but the first opinion is correct, and it not their sign in most cities. Even if it were their sign, wearing it in the right should not be abandoned and how can a Sunnah be abandoned because a sect of innovators is doing it. In Sunan Abi Dawud, it has been narrated with an authentic (Sahih) chain of narrators from Ibn ‘Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) that he used to wear the ring in his left hand, and with a good (hasan) chain from Ibn ‘Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) that he used to wear it in his right.” [Al-Majmu' (4/462)]


The proofs for this opinion are:

• Imam Al-Bukhari [hadith no. 5876] reported from ‘Abdullah Bin ‘Umar : The Prophet had a golden ring made for himself, and when he wore it. he used to turn its stone toward the palm of his hand. So the people too had gold made for themselves. The Prophet then ascended the pulpit, and after glorifying and praising Allah, he said, “I had it made for me, but now I will never wear it again.” He threw it away, and then the people threw away their rings too. (Juwairiya, a sub-narrator, said: I think Anas said that the Prophet was wearing the ring in his right hand.) Imam Muslim also narrated the hadith (no. 2091) in which too the right hand is explicitly mentioned.
• Anas b. Malik (may Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) wore a silver ring on his right hand which had an Abyssinian stone in it, and he kept its stone towards the palm. [Sahih Muslim (no. 2094)]
• ‘Abdullah Bin Ja’far (may Allah be pleased with him) narrated that the Prophet (peace be upon him) used to wear the ring in his right hand. [Musnad Imam Ahmed (3/265)] The researchers of the Musnad Imam Ahmed published by Al-Risalah Establishment said it is hasan (good, well-preserved narration). Imam Al-Bukhari said: “It is the most authentic thing reported from the Prophet (peace be upon him) in this subject.” [Sunan Al-Tirmithi (no. 1744)]
• Imam al-Tirmithi said: “In this subject, there are narrations from ‘Ali, Jabir, ‘Abdullah Bin Ja’far, Ibn ‘Abbas, ‘Aishah, Anas and the hadith of Ibn ‘Umar (the none in Sahih al-Bukhari, above) is hasan sahih (good and authentic).”
• The scholars of this opinion also use the fact that “the Prophet used to like to start from the right side on wearing shoes, combing his hair and cleaning or washing himself and on doing anything else” [Sahih Al-Bukhari (no. 169)] for supporting their opinion. Since wearing a ring is part of adornment, it is recommended to wear it in the right hand.

They replied to the proofs of the first opinion (that it is better to wear it in the left hand) by saying that the hadiths mentioning the right hand in tis regard are more numerous and more authentic, hence they should be preferred over others.

Ibn Hajar Al-Haitami, may Allah be pleased with him, said: “It is better to wear it in the right hand, since the hadiths about it are more numerous.” [Tuhfat Al-Muhtaj (3/276)]

Similarly, Imam Al-Nawawi replied to their contention that wearing the ring in the right hand is characteristic of the Rafidhis, by saying:

“It not their sign in most cities. Even if it were their sign, wearing it in the right should not be abandoned and how can a Sunnah be abandoned because a sect of innovators is doing it.” [Al-Majmu' (4/462)]

As far as their using the practice of wearing the ring in the left hand of some Companions as evidence for their opinion is concerned, then it can be said that other Companions (may Allah be pleased with them all) have been reported to wear it in the right hand. Ibn Abi Shaibah in Al-Musannaf (6/65) narrated that Ibn ‘Abbas, Ja’far Bin Muhammad, ‘Abdullah Bin Ja’far used to wear it in their right hands. In fact Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani, may Allah be pleased with him, said:

“It has been narrated from Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and numerous Companions and Followers (Tabi’oon, people who lived in the Companions’ lifetime) of Medina and others, that they used to wear their rings in the right hand.” [Fath Al-Bari (10/372)]



Third Opinion: Either Hand.

Some scholars are of the opinion that it is permissible to wear the ring in either hand: left or right. This will make one follow all the hadiths mentioned in this regard.

Imam Ibn Qayyim (may Allah be pleased with him) said:

“There are varying account from the Prophet (peace be upon him) about whether he used to wear it in the right or the left, and all of them are authentically reported.” [Zad Al-Ma'ad (1/139)]

Sheikh Ibn ‘Uthaimin, may Allah be pleased with him, said:

“The correct opinion is that the Sunnah is to wear it in the right and the left (i.e. either of the two).” [Al-Sharh Al-Mumti' (6/110)]

jzk Allah khairan for the info brother..


so after his hour long lecture...its all about which hand he should wear his ring!!

what if he doesn't follows any of the above mentioned schools of thought? we need to give our brother 70 excuses before saying anything against them...

jzk

 

[barhaich]

jzk Allah khairan for the info brother..


so after his hour long lecture...its all about which hand he should wear his ring!!

what if he doesn't follows any of the above mentioned schools of thought? we need to give our brother 70 excuses before saying anything against them...

jzk

@Cheeko he never watched the lecture, basically what sheikh is saying is that the correct aqeeda will always cuss shaitan America!

 

[Cheeko]

jzk Allah khairan for the info brother..


so after his hour long lecture...its all about which hand he should wear his ring!!

what if he doesn't follows any of the above mentioned schools of thought? we need to give our brother 70 excuses before saying anything against them...

jzk

Yes it is very important because he was using the shield of Quran and Sunnah to criticise Sufis and a mirror needs to be shown to such men who say they follow Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim but do not follow it in actual practice.

 

[rafay1122]

Yes it is very important because he was using the shield of Quran and Sunnah to criticise Sufis and a mirror needs to be shown to such men who say they follow Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim but do not follow it in actual practice.

no room for any mistake... human beings are just perfect arent they... I list sufism...and they do loads of things in front of what... this ring thing is a JOKE!!

and u obv didn't bother about 70 excuses anyway... and posting it here is like making a mockery... would you please mind pasting it on his website...he can be easily reached... just that it makes more sense that way..

jzk

 

[rafay1122]

@Cheeko he never watched the lecture, basically what sheikh is saying is that the correct aqeeda will always cuss shaitan America!

?????????????

 

[barhaich]

?????????????

Sheikh's basic message in this lecture is that the right aqaid will always lead a man to acknowledge the sheer shirk in the world's political, economic and social system, regardless of what sect that man is.

 

[rafay1122]

Sheikh's basic message in this lecture is that the right aqaid will always lead a man to acknowledge the sheer shirk in the world's political, economic and social system, regardless of what sect that man is.

exactly what I was trying to say... the lecture shouldn't lead us to focus only on his ring wearing issue... It's good that the brother highlighted it... but thats all he did.. which can turn people down and not listen to his talk and understand the message he is trying to convey... May Allah forgive him...jzk

 

[Jo.Ash.Kazar]

Despite being a christian, I have read Islam and Islamic history both from the perspective of the muslims as well as the jews & christians faiths. I must admire this man, sheikh husain's knowledge and understanding of his faith. A very similar understanding of 'Al-ihsan' exsisted in byzantinian christianity but as our faith corroded with infiltrations over time, that concept disappeared. As for the sufi's and salafis and i have visited and met both kind of such scholars in islam over several years, i find the sufis to be totally corrupt and their religious practices outright ab-noxious and abhorrent. Excuse me for this harsh language.

jzk Allah khairan for the info brother..so after his hour long lecture...its all about which hand he should wear his ring!!what if he doesn't follows any of the above mentioned schools of thought? we need to give our brother 70 excuses before saying anything against them...jzk

 

[moahhid]

Sufism is a system of beliefs and practices/deeds which is parallel to Islam (Sharia). Extremist Sufis have promoted Bidaah, Shirk, grave and pir worshiping in all times. Most of their beliefs and practices are alien to Islam. In fact Sufism is an amalgam of some beliefs and practices from Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Neo-Platonism, Philosophy and kalam. Sufism flourished in parts of the world where such beliefs and practices were already present with different names and labels and the most significant example is the Indian subcontinent where shirk and grave worshiping was a dominant religion in the form of Hinduism and Sikhism. Take the sufi aqeedah of Wahdatul Wajood. The doctrine of Wahdatul Wajood was and stills a major belief in Hinduism and is known as god manifestation (awtar). Similarly the idea of countless devi devta and sayeen baba in hiduism was exported to Islam as shaane Auliya.
The sufi concept of pir is exact copy of rahbaneyyah in Christianity.
To be honest, when I study Sufism and it’s beliefs and practices it astonishes me how these Sufis could be called Muslims let alone Awleya Allah. The true Awleya Allah are those who act according to Quran and sunnah and don’t invent new beliefs and practices in Islam and abstain from Shirk. It doesn’t matter whether you call them wahabi, najadi, gair muqallid, salafi or what so ever because the lord of the heaven and the earth S.W.T Has given them the name Muslim.
Shirk, ignorance, acting on week and fabricated ahadith or stories while ignoring strong and sahih ahadith and strange interpretation of Quran and Sunnah are the main reason why I don’t like these Sufis.
I cant understand one thing so far “How someone who is calling towards Shirk, Grave/pir worshiping, Bidaah and strange practices and compromise the Tawheed of Allah S.W.T (which is the base of Islam) could be called Awleya Allah?”

 

[Aleph]

To Cheeko:

Real petty minds always nit-pick on the non-essential things and go off on a tangent. Instead of focusing on the content of this man's speech, Cheeko goes off on a tangent on the color of his beard and what finger he wears a ring on! Subhan Allah. The other puritan, Moahhid, goes off on another tangent on sufism and how its all "bid'ah, shirk, haram..." and the usual takfiri nonsense.

Cheeko, almost everyone that you have quoted in your cut/paste job (such as Imam Nawawi al Shafi'i, Imam Al-Baji Al-Maliki, Ibn Abideen ash-Shaami Al-Hanafi et al) to back up your tangential verbal diarrhea happen to be not only sufis of their times, but also followers (muqallideen) of the madhdhahib (Jurisprudic schools of thought). Now isn't that against your manhaj where following a madhdhab is synonymous to shirk to you guys? Ma sha Allah, Imam Nawawi, Baji, Ibn Hajr Al-Haytami, Ash-shaami were all mushriks, right? And you are grossly misinterpreting the issue of rings. The hadith categorically states that the prohibition is on wearing a ring with the same inscription as that of Rasulullah (SAW). The hadith does not prohibit from wearing a ring in any other finger; it only says that Rasulullah (SAW) wore his ring in the little finger. Now how on Earth you deduced from this hadith that wearing a ring on any other finger is haram, bid'ah, shirk (or whatever takfiri adjective you can spew) is a mystery to anyone with half a brain.

With reference to the hadith of Imam Ali from Sahih Muslim that you pasted:

Ali Bin Abi Talib (may Allah be pleased with him) reported: Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) forbade me that I should wear a ring in this and that finger of mine, and he pointed to the middle finger and the next one. [Sahih Muslim (no. 2078)]

Kindly note that NONE of the fuqaha have taken this hadith to mean that it is haram to wear the ring on the middle, index or ring finger! They have explained this hadith in many ways starting from the that it is specifically for Hazrat Ali (RA); to the fact that a lone narrative cannot be used to pronounce a thing as haram; and also that Ali was told not to wear it on the other fingers because the other fingers are used more often.

Therefore, Imam Nawawi (in the same book that you have cut/pasted from) mentions that one CAN wear a ring in other fingers, but that it is a discouraged act. Please note that makrooh (disliked/discouraged) is world apart from haram (prohibited). The ahnaaf (hanafis) have classified makrooh in two types: (1) Makrooh Tanzihi; (2) Makrooh Tahrimi. Tanzihi means that if someone does such an act then there is NO SIN on him/her whereas Tahrimi means that doing such an act incurs sin.

Wearing of the ring in other fingers is classified as Makrooh Tanzihi. So, please, just because you don't like the man doesn't mean you look for concocted and twisted interpretations to make him sound like a sinner and a lesser human than yourself. If you want the references for the above then you only have to ask and I will be more than pleased to oblige.

In the same vein, all of the material that you copy/paste on the discussion of the akabireen/muhadditheen on the wearing of the ring in the little finger does not mention that wearing on any other finger is diallowed. If you EVER read these books for yourself you would know that these same ulama have called it permissible to wear the ring in other fingers! And PLEASE do yourself and stop quoting sufis since you have a big problem with them. Do you even know who Imam Ibn Hajr Al-Haytami was? He was the chief Shafi'i jurist of his time and a self-professed sufi. He was so attached to sufism that you probably have never read how severely he criticized Ibn Taymiyyah (rah) for opposing some sufi practices. If you could only read his book, Fatawa Al-Hadithiyyah, you would see the harsh words he uses for Ibn Taymiyyah.

 

[Aleph]

To Moahhid:

Thank you for your anti-sufi rants, but it just goes to show how you have been poisoned on this matter. Do you know who Imam Adh-Dhahhabi was? He is one of the salaf as-saliheen, whom present day salafis/wahhabis quote a lot of. Imam Dhahhabi (rah) was one of the students of Ibn Taymiyyah (rah). Hafiz Dhahhabi has written a book called Tadhkirah Al-Huffaz where he collects the names and short biographies of all the muhadditheen in the history of Islam upto his period. In that book he mentions the names of no less than 50 sufis who were also muhadditheen and huffaaz of ahadith. And do you know who a "Hafiz Al-Hadith" is? A person is considered as a hafiz of hadith if he/she has memorized over 100,000 ahadith! Please learn some Arabic and read that book and you will see how Imam Dhahhabi showers praise for sufism himself and names his own teachers who were well-known sufis of their times.

The problem with individuals like you is that you don't even know that the literature you are reading (probably funded by Saudi money) gives you selective quotes of scholars from the past. They will show you Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn Qayyim, Imam Dhahhabi et al bashing sufis, but they will NEVER show how they praise it! Yes, some sufis went overboard with bid'at and wrong practices, but the 'ulama only bashed their extremism and their misguidance. They never bashed the entire concept of tasawwuf! In fact, they have praised it in the highest words. Shaykh Al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (rah) himself belonged to the Qadiriyyah sufi order, for God's sake!

One of the most celebrated books of Ibn Qayyim Al-Jawziyyah (rah) - another scholar of the past that modern-day salafis quote a lot - is called madarij as-salikeen. This is the sharh (explanation) of a book called manazil as-sa'ireen written by the celebrated sufi master Allamah Abu Isma'il Al-Harawi! I bet you never knew that, right?

No salafi publication EVER prints madarij as-salikeen in its full, but only abridged versions where they leave out all the 'problematic sufi stuff' that you and your ilk have been brought up to hate. That book is full of explanations and appreciation for the science of tasawwuf. Even the name of the book is a testament to the approval of sufism. The words "madarij" and "salik" are purely sufi terminology/nomenclature!

Madarij = The stages of
As-Salikeen = The Spiritual Traveller

The entire book is about how sufi turuq (orders) train people in their zawiya (khaniqah in urdu) on how to reach the highest states of spiritual purity that leads a person to spiritual cleansing and closeness to God Almighty.

Do yourself a favor and STOP reading this nonsense of the Saudis. Just because haram is in their hands doesn't mean everything they say is right (and neither am I saying that everything they say is wrong).

 

[rafay1122]

Despite being a christian, I have read Islam and Islamic history both from the perspective of the muslims as well as the jews & christians faiths. I must admire this man, sheikh husain's knowledge and understanding of his faith. A very similar understanding of 'Al-ihsan' exsisted in byzantinian christianity but as our faith corroded with infiltrations over time, that concept disappeared. As for the sufi's and salafis and i have visited and met both kind of such scholars in islam over several years, i find the sufis to be totally corrupt and their religious practices outright ab-noxious and abhorrent. Excuse me for this harsh language.

Thanks for your opinion brother..

btw if you know about corruptions that took place in your religion than what keeps you away from Islam?

as our God is still the same God, i.e. the God of the Gospel... and Islam's holy book hasn't corrupted... which helps us to keep a check on all such people who end up corrupting religion...some thing that other faiths lack!

I say this with concrete backing as my best friends are reverts from Christianity... and they left christianity solely because they couldn't make sense of things as soon as they explored about Islam they knew it was the Truth :)

jzk

 

[barhaich]

Have you watched this?

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[moahhid]

@Aleph

Dear Aleph

First of all ! after Quran and Sunnah if someone is still looking for other ways (Turuq) of salvations (Falah E Akherat), Tazkeyyah, Ibadah then certainly he/she is on a path which leads to the hell fire. the only acceptable way/ standard of life in the sight of Allah S.W.T is Islam. And Islam has been reaveled completely to Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. I am wondering why the sufis find it hard to accept that revalation (Wahee) has been terminated and anything which pleases Allah S.W.T has been reaveled to our beloved Prophet S.A.W completely and he S.A.W has passed it to his Sahaba to Tabeen and to the rest of Ummah which is still preserved in its original form, every thing relating to our deen has been recorded. It is impossible that Allah S.W.T or His Messanger S.A.W has forgotton something and these sufis are active and clever enough to find it. So being a Muslim lets agree on one point that the only acceptable standards to Allah S.W.T is Islam (Quran and |Sunnah). I hope you will agree on that.

Neither I am Saudi citizen nor living in an Arab country to praise Saudi Arabia. I am not a molvi too, who beg Saudis to finance their madrasas and makes complaint about the grave worshipers but when they return to India-pak with their pockets full of Saudi riyals they criticise Saudis and call them wahabi. Such molvis enjoy both worlds. When they are with the grave worshipers they say that they are Sufis but when they go to Saudi Arabia they claim to be the true believers of Tawheed.

Do you know what your Muslim brothers and sisters were doing in the land of Hijaz before Ale Saud? People were doing tawaf of graves and were prostrating to them, Women were rubbing their genitals with trees and graves for children and the land of hijaz was sunk in the darkness of Shirk once again. Alhamdolellah, several centuries after Prophet Muhammad S.A.W and the salafe Saleheen, with the daawah efforts of shaikh Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahab and Ale Saud, Allah S.W.T Has eridicated Shirk from the land of Hijaz once again. We should be thankful to Allah S.W.T for this and appreciate the efforts of these scholors who spent their lives to preach the true message of Tawheed. Again don’t take me wrong, I am not advocating for the bad deeds of saudis, their may be a 1000,s problems in saudis but one has to accept that they have eridicated shirk from their coutry upto a greater extent.

Off course sufis may have something good; I never said they are 100% wrong. They pray salah, keep fasting, give zakah and perform haj etc, nobody would say that these practices are wrong. I am criticising them for their Ghuloo and nonsense practices especially Bidaah and Shirk. And remember Allah S.W.T will never ever forgive shirk.

If someone is supplicating to other than Allah S.W.T, worship graves or believes that dead people control the matters of the universe or can help them or if someone believes that God manifest in His creation or present everywhere like your Sufis say in their books I would call such a person a Mushrik. If you still call such a person a true believer of Tawheed I don’t know what your definition of shirk/mushrik would be?

If Imam Dhabi or ibne Tiymeyyah or someone else have collected the names of sufis this does not mean that whatever they do is from Islam. Our Deen is complete and very clear, for our Deen we have only two sources Quran and Sunnah. if some one invent some beliefs or a certain practice and attribute it to Islam it is our right to ask for proof from Quran and Sunnah and that is what every one of us must do.

And by the way don’t impress me with the names of Ibne Taymiyyah (rah) and Ibn Qayyim Al-Jawziyyah (rah). They were great scholors and have done a great job but still they were not prophets, and were not free from mistakes. Sometimes salafi scholors differ them in many issues. How could you ignore the work of these learned scholors which they have done against these sufis (Ibne Arabi etc).

Try study imam Ibne Jozi books (Talbees e iblees and Minhajul Qasedeen). He has explained it very accurately how this virus of sufism enterd islam. He has pointed out that the sufis of early days were not involved in too much Ghuloo or shirk but these were the later generations who’s beleifs and practices were corrupted by Iblees.

And a final note if you had a chance try visit a dargah in india or Pakistan and see with your own eyes the fruits of the work of your sufis. you will see how these intoxicated sufis do dhamal with music, prostate to their pirs and their graves, call names of abdul qadir jilani instead of Allah S.W.T during hard times. Even they have invented Hajj in Pakistan and their own ZamZam and stonnig their jamarah and other rituals. If you allowe innovations in Deen this will creat an unstopable chain reaction and this will destroy the real structure and teachnings of our Deen. It has proved in the past generations (Ummah) where they started ghuloo with their religious figures and ended up in naked Shirk.

To be on the safe side we must stick to Quran and Sunnah and that is the Sirat e Mustaqeem, any other path leads to the hell fire and I don’t want to go there. May Allah S.W.T protect us from innovations in deen, shirk and the hell fire and guide us to the right and shining path of Sharia Islam. Ameen

I would be grateful if you could provide source for your claim that Ibne Taymiyyah (rah) was a qadri. Please!

 

[moahhid]

Despite being a christian, I have read Islam and Islamic history both from the perspective of the muslims as well as the jews & christians faiths. I must admire this man, sheikh husain's knowledge and understanding of his faith. A very similar understanding of 'Al-ihsan' exsisted in byzantinian christianity but as our faith corroded with infiltrations over time, that concept disappeared. As for the sufi's and salafis and i have visited and met both kind of such scholars in islam over several years, i find the sufis to be totally corrupt and their religious practices outright ab-noxious and abhorrent. Excuse me for this harsh language.

You are right brother in your analysis. Majority of sufi practices which make them distinct from main stream Muslims are not from Islam. These are invented stuff and far from the straight path of Islam. Anyone with a sound mind and even a little knowledge of Quran and Sunnah can understand that.

 

[Aleph]

Moahhid:

Clearly, you are a blind supporter of the "Aal Saud"! There was no "grave worshipping" going on before they came and Islam was not misguided for 1200+ years until Saudi and family suddenly came to the scene to rescue it. What nonsense? Your obvious likes for the Saudis is written all over your response and you are only fooling yourself by claiming otherwise.

As for you saying that Ibn Qayyim and Ibn Taymiyyah were "not prophets", then that is the exactly the corrupted mind of the salafis/wahhabis that you represent. No respect for the elders and the salaf as-saliheen. Everyone is wrong to you guys except for Aal-e-Saud. Please, man, give us a break.

Ibn Jawzi (rah) was also a supporter of sufism. His writings are filled with praise and prose for tasawwuf. Like I said, you guys get quarantined deen where you are only shown where Ibn Jawzi (rah) bashes the corrupt practices of some sufis. Somehow you are only shown all this criticism and taught that "Sufism is bad and is unislamic". Ibn Jawzi himself had sufi teachers, so I dont know what the heck you are going on about?

As for Ibn Taymiyyah (rah) being of the Qadiriyyah sufi order then please refer to his Aqeedatul Wasitiyyah where he clearly mentions his beliefs and mentions in categoric terms his upbringing in tasawwuf. He also clearly mentions himself as a Hanbali by madhdhab. So please educate yourself and the "Aal Saud" who have erected their own monuments that their ilk "worship". Also, Ibn Qayyim's book Madarij as-salikeen is more than enough to convince anyone that tasawwuf was, is and always will be an integral part of Islam. Your simplistic ideal of "Qur'an and Sunnah only" is just an abberation. Dare I say that you guys do not even know "Qur'an and Sunnah" and yet you champion it as if you were born with the knowledge of these things.

Sorry, but I will take the words of Ibn Qayyim and Ibn Taymiyyah over the words of a wannabe puritan who takes his toe from the House of Sauds. Talk about andhi taqlid!

 

[Cheeko]

no room for any mistake... human beings are just perfect arent they... I list sufism...and they do loads of things in front of what... this ring thing is a JOKE!!

and u obv didn't bother about 70 excuses anyway... and posting it here is like making a mockery... would you please mind pasting it on his website...he can be easily reached... just that it makes more sense that way..

jzk

Your hate for sufism is evident from day one but no proper response has come yet from the master of Sunnah Sheikh Imran's blind followers.