What did Altaf Promise to get UK citizenship??

[Imran Siddiqi]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=575336742511695

 

[Imran Siddiqi]

Just found the answer to My own Question.. Sheikh Google Zindabad!!!!!

"Both the USA and UK had been providing protection and support to the MQM particularly after 9/11 in 2001. The letter written by Altaf Hussain to Prime Minister Tony Blair on 23 September (and released by Zulfiqar Mirza) offering the services of his party to provide HUMINT in Pakistan and Afghanistan and to paralyse the port city of Karachi, was followed within weeks by the invasion of Afghanistan and Altaf Hussain being given citizenship of the UK which had been refused earlier. Anyone recommended by the MQM Secretariat in London has been readily given political asylum in the UK, USA, Canada and South Africa. The Indian intelligence (RAW) kept in close contact with Altaf Hussain through Mr Anwar, who is a British citizen of Indian origin. Altaf Hussain had the unique luxury of being the darling of so many counties in three continents at the same time."
For details go to the following Link

http://paktribune.com/articles/Altaf-Hussain-Reading-Beyond-Lines-242783.html

 

[Mojo-jojo]

Keep the fire burning under the feet of Altaf Hussain and his protectors in the British government.

 

[Mojo-jojo]

کیا برطانیہ میں مقیم پاکستانی اس کے خلاف قانونی کاراوائی نہیں کرسکتے؟ اگر کوئی قانونی گنجائیش ہو تو میرے خیال میں ضرور کرنا چاہئے اور ایک وکلا کی اچھی ٹیم کو اس کام کیلئے استعمال کیا جاسکتا ہے - اس کارخیر میں یعنی قانونی کاراوائی میں جو اخراجات آئیں وہ بیرون ملک پاکستانی مل کر ادا کریں میں اس نیک کام میں چندہ دینے کیلئے تیار ہوں - اس جیسے کیلئے ایسا ہی ہونا چاہئے​

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[mujahidkhan]

MQM should sue George Galloway instead of Imran Khan

I do not understand why MQM is reluctant to sue the british law maker, he has named AH from extornist to terrorist BUT MQM is silent. I think chances of defamation case against Khan are less than George, BUT i dare MQM to take a step..... i really want their Barrister Farough Naseem to think on these parameters.....
Karachi woke up already........ Zindabad karachi..

 

[Imran Siddiqi]

The problem is that most of the evidence has to come from Pakistan and The government there will not cooperate.
The best bet is Imran Farooq Case. They have recent;ly arrested a mastermind of that from Karachi. PTI should work out a deal with noorhs on that as this is an issue of Nationl Security..

 

[Imavailable]

Keep the fire burning under the feet of Altaf Hussain and his protectors in the British government.

kHALI FEET NAI MERAY BHAI..... JO JO JAGHA WO BETHNAY K LYAY USE KRTA HAI.. WAHAN AAG KA SAIK DAITAY RAHOO....

MQM KI MAA KAB TAK KHAIR MANAY GI .......???

 

[Imran Siddiqi]

For those who understand the joke " Death by JO JO"
For others my apologies you can google it!!

 

[akafen]

[email protected]

Please everyone encourage British columnists to research and write more about Altaf Bhai. As people of Pakistan we must take back Karachi and the only party who has the leader to stand up against MQM is Imran Khan. But IK is not the savior we must act to save each other.

Disclaimer:I'm Urdu Speaking.

 

[nvra911]

Guys, stop it with the conspiracy theories because if you keep bashing US and UK and be stuck in conspiracy theories then you are doing yourself harm by being away from reality.

Look, MQM came into being because in Sindh a particular group of people were being marginalised. As a reaction to that, MQM was formed which used violence as a took for their own protection and grab hold of power. If MQM and their followers don't do this then they will be wiped out.

So basically its a case of eat or be eaten.

Bottom line is that our own mistakes created the 'cancer' of MQM. Just like the cancer of 'Taliban' and the cancer of 'Politics of Inheritance' or the cancer of 'Energy crises' etc.

So please STOP IT with the US / UK / West / Jews bashing and look at your own self as a nation. It is our problem. We created it. We don't 'really' want to fix it and we are paying the price of our 'munafiqat'.

That's the truth. 'Amreeka' or 'Bartania' really aren't the criminals. Its the people of Pakistan who are at fault for creating these caners and allowing them to spread within to a point that the 'limb' has to be cut-off just to survive. It has happened to us in 1971 and it will keep on happening until we learn to live together in peace.

 

[nvra911]

کیا برطانیہ میں مقیم پاکستانی اس کے خلاف قانونی کاراوائی نہیں کرسکتے؟ اگر کوئی قانونی گنجائیش ہو تو میرے خیال میں ضرور کرنا چاہئے اور ایک وکلا کی اچھی ٹیم کو اس کام کیلئے استعمال کیا جاسکتا ہے - اس کارخیر میں یعنی قانونی کاراوائی میں جو اخراجات آئیں وہ بیرون ملک پاکستانی مل کر ادا کریں میں اس نیک کام میں چندہ دینے کیلئے تیار ہوں - اس جیسے کیلئے ایسا ہی ہونا چاہئے​

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Friend, its not about finding a good lawyer or how much to pay them.

Karachi's power politics is a very complex game. The solution is NOT in removing Altaf Hussain or 'cleaning-up' MQM.

The solution is somewhere else and we can't find the solution to Karachi problem until we as a nation learn to behave in a civilised manner and our establishment doesn't blackmail the politicians and in return doesn't get blackmailed by them either. Only then we might have a chance at finding solution to Karachi's or Pakistan's problems.

The other day, somewhere on this forum, a guy was eating my head over harram-ness of gelatin. He sounded educated and from middle-class background, since he has a computer and internet access to come here on this forum.

This is the real crisis. When the educated and middle-class people of a country get stuck in whether gelatin should be consumed or not by a Muslim - then what is happening to us is really well fairly deserved.

Trust me, MQM or Altaf Hussain really come at the end of the problem. They are not the source of the problem. The problem is much bigger and deeper. Alas, we can't even see the problem. I have been very regular on this forum for the last week or so. 99% of the posts here are emotional nonsense and reactionary. Most of the people here want to see Altaf Hussain hanged and the other few want to see MQM in power.

This approach is just stupid and stupid nations deserve the problems that we are facing.

 

[hrbhatti]

Re: MQM should sue George Galloway instead of Imran Khan

In this way, they can earn lot of fame and money in Britain.:)

 

[Imran Siddiqi]

It is true that Karachi in general was discriminated against We had SUPARCO in Karachi but no vacancies for Karachi due the Quota System but MQM from it's inception was a foreign Idea. It started as a Pro Russian Concept where there were progressive parties for every Qomiat except Urdu Speaking and Punjabis. Some of the early people who with the blessings of Altaf Bhai are resting in Peace in their Graves thought hat they should mobilize the urdu speaking population as well for progressive cause. This Idea did not go far enough before the USSR collapsed itself. Altaf Hussain cam to Chicago and started driving a CAB they he had a rebirth This time on the back of a different horse. Thanks to Zia-ul Haq and Ghaus Ali Shah who staged the killing of 300+ mohajirs in Qasbah Colony by the displaced Pushtuns from Sohrab Goath. This created the sense of eat or be eaten. the rest is History. Very quickly RAW penetrated MQM and today without any shadow of a doubt it is a front organization of RAW. US and UK role is secondary. Mohammad Anwar of MQM Rabita Committee is a British Citizen of Indian Origin and according to Afaq Khan he runs the show behind the Scenes. Otherwise you can only imagine Altaf Bhai's English Communication Skills.
I can go on forever. Let us leave it at that.......
Idea.

 

[Mojo-jojo]

Friend, its not about finding a good lawyer or how much to pay them.

The Karachi's power politics is a very complex game. The solution is NOT in removing Altaf Hussain or 'cleaning-up' MQM.

The solution is somewhere else and we can't find the solution to Karachi problem until we as a nation learn to behave in a civilised manner and out establishment doesn't blackmail the politicians and in return doesn't get blackmailed by them too. Only then we might have a chance at finding solution to Karachi's and even Pakistan's problem.

The other day, somewhere on this forum a guy was eating my head over harram-ness of gelatin. He sounded educated and from a middle class background since he has a computer and interenet access to come here on this forum.

This is the crisis. When the educated and middle class people of a country get stuck in whether gelatin should be consumed or not by a Muslim - then what is happening to us is really well fairly deserved.

Trust me, MQM or Altaf Hussain really come at the end. They are not the source of the problem. The problem is much bigger and deeper.

I agree with you to some extent but analogy to problem of MQM is the creation and nurturing of militant outfits in the name of Kashmir and Afghanistan Jihad. Now the same militants are after the Pakistan Army and blowing everything all over the country and the Army and establishment is unable to control and eliminate them. I think same thing happened with MQM. They were created by Zia-ul-Haq to counter Jamaat Islami and Peoples Party in the urban centers of Sindh particularly Karachi and to take away their ability to launch a mass political movement fromthere against his government. They have been used by the establishment from time to time and most recently by the Musharaf Goverment. But I believe that even if Army itself wants to cut them to size and contain them they do not have the capacity and ability to do that. Furthermore why people of Karachi should continue to suffer at the hands of these goons while waiting for the establishment to do something? Many a times in the history of the nations it is the will of the masses which dictates the direction of events and not the establishment.

 

[nvra911]

...It started as a Pro Russian Concept...

...Altaf Hussain cam to Chicago and started driving a CAB...

...Very quickly RAW penetrated MQM and today without any shadow of a doubt it is a front organization of RAW...

Dude, your statements are full of conspiracy theories. You are talking as if since creation of Pakistan everything in Sindh was perfect and everyone got their rights and somehow India has created MQM.

You are so stuck in conspiracy theories that I don't think you would ever be able to see the reality.

There has been discrimination against people in Sindh. MQM is a result of that. Just like there was discrimination against Bangalis and Bangladesh is a result of that. You have to understand that our establishment and our politicians are playing a power-grab with each other for a very long time. Establishment does it with 'military power' and politicians do it by using religion, ethnicity or language to the same effect.

Worst thing is that smart people like you are living through it on daily basis yet they are stuck deep in silly conspiracy theories. This is why no change will ever happen. The lucky people in Pakistan who have gotten education are worse because they keep adding fuel to the hatred and 'conspiracy-theory-factory'.

Whatever someone's ethnicity or background or language, unless we admit that we are going to live together and treat each other equally, we are NOT going to have any peace. You can keep seeking comfort in a million conspiracy theories and keep blaming India or the West but the problem is inside of Pakistan and it is with the behaviour of Pakistanis.

MQM is a reaction of discrimination. Bangladesh is one too. Bangalis separated from us due to physical distance. Karachi can't be separated - so the only solution is to accept other ethnicities in a civilised manner. Otherwise this bloodshed, this torture, this 'azaab' will keep happening until hell freezes over.

 

[nvra911]

...But I believe that even if Army itself wants to cut them to size and contain them they do not have the capacity and ability to do that.

Dude you are so right. You have hit the point. You are the first person I have met here who has concisely stated the reality. This is the reality. The cancer of 'violent power play' is even out of hand of the establishment now. That establishment which has nukes. So the problem is really really out of hand.

...why people of Karachi should continue to suffer at the hands of these goons while waiting for the establishment to do something?...

I don't want anybody to suffer but when the cancer has spread to a particular stage then even curing it is painful. We are at the last stages of the cancer of 'radicalised and violent power politics' in Pakistan. Suffrage is well due, unfortunately.

...it is the will of the masses which dictates the direction of events and not the establishment.

Not of the masses who are stuck debating whether or not gelatin is harram or halal for Muslims. Such masses are destined to nothing-ness and Pakistani masses are like that, sadly.

 

[abdlsy]

Guys, stop it with the conspiracy theories because if you keep bashing US and UK and be stuck in conspiracy theories then you are doing yourself harm by being away from reality.

Look, MQM came into being because in Sindh a particular group of people were being marginalised. As a reaction to that, MQM was formed which used violence as a took for their own protection and grab hold of power. If MQM and their followers don't do this then they will be wiped out.

So basically its a case of eat or be eaten.

Bottom line is that our own mistakes created the 'cancer' of MQM. Just like the cancer of 'Taliban' and the cancer of 'Politics of Inheritance' or the cancer of 'Energy crises' etc.

So please STOP IT with the US / UK / West / Jews bashing and look at your own self as a nation. It is our problem. We created it. We don't 'really' want to fix it and we are paying the price of our 'munafiqat'.

That's the truth. 'Amreeka' or 'Bartania' really aren't the criminals. Its the people of Pakistan who are at fault for creating these caners and allowing them to spread within to a point that the 'limb' has to be cut-off just to survive. It has happened to us in 1971 and it will keep on happening until we learn to live together in peace.

I 100% agree with you and thank you for in clear truthfull words enlightining us with the reality.(bigsmile)

 

[Mojo-jojo]

Dude you are so right. You have hit the point. You are the first person I have met here who has concisely stated the reality. This is the reality. The cancer of 'violent power play' is even out of hand of the establishment now. That establishment which has nukes. So the problem is really really out of hand.


I don't want anybody to suffer but when the cancer has spread to a particular stage then even curing it is painful. We are at the last stages of the cancer of 'radicalised and violent power politics' in Pakistan. Suffrage is well due, unfortunately.


Not of the masses who are stuck debating whether of not gelatin is harram or halal for Muslims. Such masses are destined to nothing-ness and Pakistani masses are like that, sadly.

Don't be such a pessimist. People of Karachi have shown their desire to bring a positive change in their city and it is evident from the recent elections. The forces which have controlled it for so long will not melt away immediately. This will take some time and struggle but I am seeing a big difference in the attitude of people of Karachi.

 

[ptichangepk]

 

[Imranpak]

As always George telling it the way it is.