Wisdom of imam abu hanifa (ra)... Lacking today.....

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
A man came to Imam Abu Hanfia and said:

"O Abu Hanifa, what is your opinion with regards to a man who doesn't hope for Jannah, nor does he fear Allah (SWT), nor does he fear the fire of hell, he eats dead animals, he prays without ruku and sajdah, at the same time he testifies to what he has not seen, he loves fitna and he runs away from the mercy of Allah (SWT)."

Imam Abu Hanifah posed this question to his students and some of them said this man is a kafir and these are the attributes and characteristics of a kafir. While others were unable to answer...

Imam Abu Hanifah was a very cautious man and would not give the fatwa of kufr just like that. He was of the opinion that if there are 99 sins which show that a person is a kafir and there is only one thing that shows that a person is a Muslim, the latter will be given preference.

Imam Abu Hanifah proceeded to answer the question from the top of his head and said:

"This person is a believer, a true believer and these are the characteristics of a believer."

Imam Abu Hanifah was of course asked to explain his answer as many Ulema gave the verdict of kufr on this man. He proceeded:

"When you say he doesn't hope for Jannah, one who is overpowered with the love of Allah (SWT) hopes to meet the Almighty Allah (SWT) and one who hopes to meet Almighty Allah (SWT) does not hope for Jannah.

When you say he doesn't fear Allah, it means he doesn't fear Allah that Allah (SWT) will be unjust for him in his rule on the Day of Judgement and when you say he doesn't fear hell that is because he fears Almighty Allah (SWT). One who fears Allah refrains from sin.One who refrains from sin becomes the inheritor of Jannah thus he has no need to fear the fire of hell.

When you say his animals are not slaughtered then I say he eats fish. Fish does not need to be slaughtered.

And when you say he prays without ruku or sajdah then that it is referring to Salat Al-Janazah, that he prays Salat Al-Janazah and he presents himself there and in Salat Al-Janazah there is no ruku or sajdah.

And when you say he testifies to that which he has not seen then I say that he testifies there is no God worthy of worship and Muhammad (SAW) is the Messenger of Allah (SWT) and he has not seen Allah (SWT) and he has not seen Muhammad (SAW).

And when you says he loves fitna, I say he loves his family. He loves his wife and children. Because Allah (SWT) says in the Qu'ran that "your children and your wealth are fitna".

And when you say he runs from the mercy of Allah (SWT), I say he runs from rain because rain is the mercy of Allah (SWT) and he runs from rain so he doesn't get wet."
(clap):jazak:
 

molson4u

Senator (1k+ posts)
Does not make sense at all. Good made up stroy but contrary to Islamice teaching and has many mistakes in making...for example:

Q: he eats dead animals,
A: When you say his animals are not slaughtered then I say he eats fish. Fish does not need to be slaughtered.

Question was not to assume he eats unslaughtered animals but he eats dead animals and Islam prohibts eating dead animals.

many other mistakes but you get the point.
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Biomat, I was not expecting this disappointing post from you. It seems a "Bahutan" (بہتان) on Imam Abu Hanifa as he tried his level best to follow Quraan and Hadeeth.

This can not be the wisdom of Imam Abu Hanifa. This seems to be fabricated story to me. Regardless, for a Muslim it is obligatory to follow Quraan and Hadeeths ONLY, in religious matters.

Following are some of the saying of Imaam Abu Haneefah: He said: “It is not permissible for anyone to follow what we say if they do not know where we got it from.”
According to another report he said: “It is haraam for the one who does not know my evidence to issue a fatwa based on my words.”
And he said: “If I say something that goes against the Book of Allaah or the report of the Messenger (صلى الله عليه وسلم), then ignore what I say.”
And he said: “”Adhere to the athaar (narrations) and the way of the salaf and beware of newly invented matters, for all of it is an innovation.”
He also said: “if a hadeeth is found to be authentic, that is my madhab

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا ادْخُلُوا فِي السِّلْمِ كَافَّةً وَلَا تَتَّبِعُوا خُطُوَاتِ الشَّيْطَانِ ۚ إِنَّهُ لَكُمْ عَدُوٌّ مُّبِينٌ
Qur’aan (2:208)
اے ایمان والو اسلام میں سارے کے سارے داخل ہو جاؤ اور شیطان کے قدموں کی پیروی نہ کرو کیوں کہ وہ تمہارا صریح دشمن ہے​
Translation By Yusuf Ali:
O ye who believe! Enter into Islam whole-heartedly; and follow not the footsteps of the evil one; for he is to you an avowed enemy.

Translation By Shakir:
O you who believe! enter into submission one and all and do not follow the footsteps of Shaitan; surely he is your open enemy.

Translation By Pickthal:
O ye who believe! Come, all of you, into submission (unto Him); and follow not the footsteps of the devil. Lo! he is an open enemy for you.

Translation By Mohsin Khan:
O you who believe! Enter perfectly in Islam (by obeying all the rules and regulations of the Islamic religion) and follow not the footsteps of Shaitan (Satan). Verily! He is to you a plain enemy.
 
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biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Assalam-o-alaikum
Brother Pakistan1947, prove me this is buhtan. I will accept it & delete it at once..
Waiting for quick & positive reply.
Regards
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Assalam-o-alaikum
Brother Pakistan1947, prove me this is buhtan. I will accept it & delete it at once..
Waiting for quick & positive reply.
Regards

Walekum Asalam brother biomat,

Imman Abu Hanifa, were scholar of a high calibre. Unfortunately, the story you are telling is contradicting Quraan and Hadeeth. Which is not expected from a scholar of calibre like Imam Abu Hanifa. Please forgive me if I am hurting your feeling. I would prefer not to elongate this debate.
 

rajakhanmd

Senator (1k+ posts)
In my humble opinion, there is another important principle of Islam that can be concluded from this incident.

Its is a very well known teaching of Islam NOT to accept anything negative about any one until and unless you have a solid proof. ''Gossip'' and somebody mentioning verbally anything about anyone should not make us conclude anything. Islam requires us to think positively about our Muslim brothers, to have the nice ''GUMAAN'' about them.

Islamic scholars used to say '' Think of 70 reasons and excuses for an action of a person and if you cannot find an excuse, say that there must be an excuse but I am not aware of that''.

For me, this is what I learnt and understood from the above incident.

May Allah SWT guide us all on the straight path.

Jazak-Allah khair.
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Assalam-o-alaikum
Brother Rajakhanmd, i am not taking comments from bro pakistan1947, personally. Truly speaking if he or other point out what is wrong, i again reinstate that i will delete it at once. But tell me what is wrong & explain to me..
Thanks & Jaza-k-ALLAH
 

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