سیاست میں فوج کی مداخلت ختم

Siberite said:

او سوری ۔ میں بھل گیا سی ۔ تیرا ابا تے اڈھیالہ وچ سائیکلاں دے پنچر لائ جاندا اے ۔​

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patwari_sab said:

chowkedar di choti kara diti, hon E nawa BF labya teri baybay nu

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میں وی اے سمجھدا ریا اں کہ تیری شکل پڑوسی نال کیوں ملدی اے ، پتہ چلنا تیری بے بے کریلے منگن اپنی دیگچی سمیت پڑوسیاں دیا بوھا روز کٹھکھٹانی سی ۔

تُو نامراد دنیا وچ آنا ھی آنا سی ۔


باقی چوکیدار دی چھوٹی کردیاں کردیاں ، توُ آپنی کھلوا بیٹھا ایں ۔ چاھے اندر ھاتھی باڑو یا ٹینک ، گل ایکو ای اے ۔​

Siberite said:

میں وی اے سمجھدا ریا اں کہ تیری شکل پڑوسی نال کیوں ملدی اے ، پتہ چلنا تیری بے بے کریلے منگن اپنی دیگچی سمیت پڑوسیاں دیا بوھا روز کٹھکھٹانی سی ۔

تُو نامراد دنیا وچ آنا ھی آنا سی ۔


باقی چوکیدار دی چھوٹی کردیاں کردیاں ، توُ آپنی کھلوا بیٹھا ایں ۔ چاھے اندر ھاتھی باڑو یا ٹینک ، گل ایکو ای اے ۔​

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patwari_sab said:

mirasaan.. teray dowa te chapa parya hai kya

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ابے ، کریلے کے بدلے کی پیدائش ، تیرا تھلا تو خلائ مسافروں کی آماجگاہ بنا ہوا ہے ، مذید تحقیق جاری ہے ۔​

Islamabadiya said:

waysay ganjay tu pehlay tu itna ghalazat ka dhaair nahen tha

lately kya hua tujhay?

fifthia's allowance kahatm hu gaya?

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mujay ganja keh ker tu Mian Saanp ki be'izzati nahi ker sakta

aur tere baaqi 2 sawaalon ke jawaab ye hain

Siberite said:

ابے ، کریلے کے بدلے کی پیدائش ، تیرا تھلا تو خلائ مسافروں کی آماجگاہ بنا ہوا ہے ، مذید تحقیق جاری ہے ۔​

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wasiqjaved said:

ایک ریٹائرڈ میجر صاحب لکھتے ہیں کہ ہم سیاچن پر تھے تو بیگم کو پاس کام کے ذریعے فون کرتے تھے.
بیگم کہتی تھی کہ کبھی تو لو یو ہی کہہ دِیا کرو،
میں نے کہا یہ بیچ والے ہمارے فون سُنتے ہیں۔ دوسرے دِن او سی سگنل کا فون آیا کہ سر ہم آپ کی باتیں نہیں سُنتے جو مرضی کہا کریں۔

یہ سیاچین کی سردی میں ہٙنسنے کا سٙبب بنا اور یہ بات بیگم کو بھی بتائی، بیگم نے کہا خط لکھ دِیا کرو، میں نے اپنے خط میں لِکھا کہ ہمارے خط سنسر ہوتے ہیں اِس لِیے خط میں کوئی ایسی ویسی بات نہ لِکھنا۔

ﺗﯿﺴﺮﮮ ﺩِﻥ سِگنل ﺁﻓﺲ ﮐﯽ ﻃﺮﻑ ﺳﮯ مُجھے ﺍﯾﮏ چِٹھی مِلی ﺟِﺲ ﻣﯿﮟ ﻟِﮑﮭﺎ ﺗﮭﺎ سر ﮨﻢ کِسی کا ﺧﻂ ﻧﮩﯿﮟ ﮐﮭﻮلتے آپ ﮨﻢ ﭘﺮ یہ ﻏﻠﻂ ﺍِﻟﺰﺍﻡ نہ لگایا کریں۔

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ہم سیاست میں مداخلت نہیں کرتے (نومبر 2008)
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#highqualitythread​

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Fawad Javed said:

Until we get rid of corrupt generals this country has no future.

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• Strengthen Civil Institutions: Build robust, independent civil institutions, including a judiciary and civilian-led security forces, free from military influence. This helps ensure no group or individual, including military personnel, is above the law. As of right now, judges are planted instead of appointed.
• Establish a Civilian-led National Security Force: Create a national security force or police service led by civilian authorities for public safety and protection of civilian leaders, reducing reliance on military protection.
• Legal and Constitutional Reforms: Implement reforms defining the military's role within civilian governance, limiting military jurisdiction over civilian matters, and ensuring military accountability to civilian courts.
• International Training, Support, and Pressure: Partner with international law enforcement for training civilian security forces and seek international advocacy to uphold democratic principles. This support can ensure adherence to international standards and pressure military compliance with the rule of law.
• Develop Comprehensive Legal Frameworks: Define the roles and limits of civilian security forces with clear legal frameworks that include oversight mechanisms to prevent abuses and ensure accountability.
• Transparency and Accountability Mechanisms: Implement mechanisms such as public reporting requirements, independent oversight bodies, and citizen reporting systems to ensure both military and civilian forces operate transparently and lawfully.
• Public Awareness and Civic Engagement: Educate the public on their rights and the importance of civilian rule. Encourage media to provide accurate reporting and analysis, fostering a culture that supports civilian governance and accountability.
• Decentralize Security Responsibilities: Decentralize security to local police forces with strong community ties, enhancing responsiveness and preventing the concentration of power.
• Reform and Advocate from Within: Encourage reform-minded veterans and officers within the military to advocate for changes and promote a culture of accountability internally.
• External Auditing and Monitoring: Implement external audits of military activities and budgets to increase transparency and accountability.

wasiqjaved said:

I think if only we are able to bring them under rule of law, that would be enough. Right now, they operate above the law and never get tried in courts for their gross human rights violations and corruption. Here's what needs to be done:

• Strengthen Civil Institutions: Build robust, independent civil institutions, including a judiciary and civilian-led security forces, free from military influence. This helps ensure no group or individual, including military personnel, is above the law. As of right now, judges are planted instead of appointed.
• Establish a Civilian-led National Security Force: Create a national security force or police service led by civilian authorities for public safety and protection of civilian leaders, reducing reliance on military protection.
• Legal and Constitutional Reforms: Implement reforms defining the military's role within civilian governance, limiting military jurisdiction over civilian matters, and ensuring military accountability to civilian courts.
• International Training, Support, and Pressure: Partner with international law enforcement for training civilian security forces and seek international advocacy to uphold democratic principles. This support can ensure adherence to international standards and pressure military compliance with the rule of law.
• Develop Comprehensive Legal Frameworks: Define the roles and limits of civilian security forces with clear legal frameworks that include oversight mechanisms to prevent abuses and ensure accountability.
• Transparency and Accountability Mechanisms: Implement mechanisms such as public reporting requirements, independent oversight bodies, and citizen reporting systems to ensure both military and civilian forces operate transparently and lawfully.
• Public Awareness and Civic Engagement: Educate the public on their rights and the importance of civilian rule. Encourage media to provide accurate reporting and analysis, fostering a culture that supports civilian governance and accountability.
• Decentralize Security Responsibilities: Decentralize security to local police forces with strong community ties, enhancing responsiveness and preventing the concentration of power.
• Reform and Advocate from Within: Encourage reform-minded veterans and officers within the military to advocate for changes and promote a culture of accountability internally.
• External Auditing and Monitoring: Implement external audits of military activities and budgets to increase transparency and accountability.

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Fawad Javed said:

I think if only we are able to bring them under rule of law, that would be enough. Right now and what I said is basically same thing lets do the first thing first baki bateen bad main hoon ge

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patwari_sab said:

Teri baybay ajkal police walo ko bara entertain kr rahi hai.. apni kampain onchi kr k kya zor ka salute marti hai

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تیرا گواچیا ابا کیہ ریا سی تیرے بےبے پڑوسی نال نس پئ سی ۔ پولیس اج تکر انوں لبھدی پئ اے ۔​

Fawad Javed said:

Until we get rid of corrupt generals this country has no future.

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