Is it possible to create a state on the model of state of Madinah?

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What is the connection between ideology, society, politics, culture and economy? Also how all these relate to a project?

Anything you need to or want to do or you are told to do or achieve or accomplish or establish or fulfil is a project.

Any project starts with an idea and this is why ideology becomes the first and foremost thing to be considered or taken into account. Without it a project cannot be a project.

Society is merely a number of people who come together or are involved in a project to carry it out by playing their relevant parts in the project. These people are needed to handle things that are needed for completing a project.

Since any project involves people and things therefore the need for managing people and things hence the need for politics because politics are all about managing people and things in an organised and regulated way so that the project could be completed as well as smoothly.

In order for a project to complete as well as smoothly there arises need for bringing about a culture for that purpose so that people involved in project are at ease while working for the project. This means gearing people up for doing what they ought to do as part of a group or society. If that sort of culture or environment is not brought about then end product cannot be produced or achieved or accomplished.

If the end product is supposed to be a great economy then that is the project for people to work towards by organising and regulating themselves for managing things purposefully properly. You cannot have a great economy by doing things which have nothing to do with economy.

Economy is all about fulfilling the needs and wants of people of a society or group.

This is how ideology, society, politics, culture and economy are interrelated and interconnected.

One should therefore be able to see why random use of various words or terms produces no end product or result . It is because a project for it to be successful needs to be taken as a mission from its start to its completion. Otherwise all random efforts and hard works of people go to waste.

Your project could be anything from a smallest thing to a largest thing. For example, your project could be cooking a chicken for food. This also involves all these things I have explained. It could also be about forming and running a government of a country.
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Any project involves systems, structures, procedures and practices. What are they and how are they interlinked or interconnected and interrelated?
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What is a system? It is anything that is taken as a complete working unit with all its parts. Any machine is a complete unit because it contains all its part which make it the machine that it is. For example, a bike, a sewing machine, a car, a computer, a government etc etc. A human is also a system or a unit of bits and pieces which work together to make it a human being eg brain, senses, heart, lungs, kidneys, liver etc etc etc. A government is also a system for governing a human population or society with all its needed departments which help it function eg health, education, roads and transport, industry etc etc etc.

What is a structure? A structure is a framework of parts of a system which are interconnected and located with respect to each other so that the system could function smoothly in an organised and regulated way. For example, in a human body brain, senses, heart, lungs, kidneys etc etc are interconnected as well as located with respect to each other within a human body to function as a unit. In a car, all car parts are located within the car body and they are interconnected so that the car works as a unit. Same is true for a bike or any other machine. A government is also a system with parts or departments which are located and interconnected so that things work smoothly in a human population.

What is a procedure? It is a chart of operation or the way a particular part of a system is supposed to work. For example, in case of a government each and every government department is supposed to be working according to some procedure or way of doing things eg how will you get your passport made? The government passport office will have a procedure in place which a person who wants a passport made should follow.

What is a practice? It is the way people act or conduct themselves according to some laid down procedure or way of doing things.
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Sources of islamic constitution and laws are; the Quran according to its confirmable true interpretation, the confirmable true hadith both chain wise as well as interpretation wise, qayaas or analogy, ijma or unanimity and majority consensus.

For a people in a place to live according to governing system of islam they must know these things as individuals and they must teach them to others as well as they must agree upon them otherwise they can never live as muslims anywhere in the human world at all.

This is why no interpretation of the quran can be accepted true unless it is consistence within itself as well as consistent with real world realities.

This is why no hadith and its interpretation can be accepted true unless it is consistent with the consistent quranic interpretation.

No analogy can be accepted true unless it is consistent with true interpretation of the quran and the true interpretation of the true hadith.

Likewise no unanimity or majority consensus is acceptable against the true interpretation of the quran and the true hadith.

Why muslims need confirmable and verifiable true interpretation of the quran as well as of the true hadith? To be able to live by actual or true or real islam.

The quran tells mankind what they ought to think and do, why and how.

The hadith or history is supposed to have record of precedents that were set by the earlier generations which lived by actual or true islam. This information from the past can be helpful for present and future generations of mankind if it is available and intact. Otherwise people will have to work harder to get the needed information direct from the quran itself. It is because otherwise actual islam cannot be known therefore it cannot be practiced in reality.

Analogy, unanimity and majority consensus is also of vital importance because if people do not agree on something then it cannot be put in to practice by them or disputes, rivalries, animosities, conflicts, fights and wars between them will start over things. So again actual islam will not become a reality in the human world.

This should make it very obvious for people why people who claim to be muslims cannot ignore, avoid, neglect or ignore these like points because they are of such vital importance.
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The quran is the main book upon which islam is based. To understand the quran purposefully properly is absolutely necessary to establish a purpose based proper state based upon it. To do that people need to understand vitally important human languages. The question is, what are vitally important human languages and why that is the case?

1)People must learn their mother tongue to the best of their God given abilities. To do this is vitally important because otherwise one cannot communicate with other human beings effectively for expressing what is in one's own mind to others. Not only that but one cannot understand what others are trying to express which is in their minds. Each person's life begins between people among whom one is born. So there is no escape from learning one's mother tongue. If one is good at learning one's own mother tongue then it makes it very easy for a person to learn other languages.

2)The other language one has to learn is the one which is language of the most advanced and progressed people at the time. It is because they develop their language as they progress with time. It is because they learn new things for which they need modified or new words. Backward people do not develop and progress so their languages also remain backward and very limited. This is why if a people want to develop and progress then they must link themselves with such people or they will become and remain stagnant or keep on regressing.

3)Another language people must learn is the one which gives them their purpose based proper moral foundation. It is because without purpose based proper moral foundation no people can advance and progress beyond a limit due to their infighting over things to have them any way they can from each other at each other's expense. This language also requires people to learn other human languages because without knowing them they cannot extend purpose based proper moral foundation to them.

So anyone who has learned the needed sense of making purpose based proper sense of things should be able to see how things are interconnected in this regard which gives things their purpose based proper context.
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If anyone wants to bring about a state on the model of state of madinah then one has to concentrate on purpose based proper education and training of people to gain the needed skills for getting this end result. It was the mission of the last and the final prophet and messenger of Allah to mankind. Just empty slogans do not mean anything at all nor saying one thing and doing the other is going to be any good for people who claim to be muslims. Deen and mazhab are two opposing things. One is only empty ritualism which wastes time and energy of people and that way gradually destroys them and the other demands and requires very, very hard work by people for its success because it is a mission and needs to be taken up as a mission by mankind.
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
It should be very much obvious from my posts what actual deen of islam is.

It is a project given to mankind by God to complete. The purpose, goal or objective of project is to bring about and maintain a purpose based proper human community i8n the human world in his kingdom.

Why mankind must bring about a purpose based proper human community in kingdom of their creator and sustainer? It is because it is requirement of Allah of mankind to do so. However it is also our human need as well.

Think about it, which of us human being is born in this world all by himself? The answer is none. All of us are born through people whom we call our parents. Which of us after our births looked after themselves needing no help and support of other people? The answer is none.

If we cannot come into this world without other people bringing us into it and if we cannot look after ourselves therefore need other people to raise us then does that not tell us that we need other people for our help and support? Not only that we also need to be raised purposefully properly to be good human beings we need to be so that we too could do the very same for all the other people. This means we need a purpose based proper human community to help us be good human beings in the human world.

The other undeniable reason is, we all get old and so we need help and support of others till we die. Does this not tell us we need to be looked after purposefully properly by each other so that we are all happy living with each other? These like reasons make it absolutely clear that human beings cannot have good life in this world or in hereafter without being good with each other.

Not only these reasons but also other reasons also require that we look after each and that we need help and support of each other the best we can give to each other and can get from each other. For example, we humans are prone to mistakes and accidents whereby many of us end up disabled and incapacitated so we need other people to help and support or look after us and not only look after us but do it nicely and not abuse us.

People also have many health problems which limit and even cripple them. So one can see why, how and what kind of human society we need to bring about so that with help and full support of each other we could have the best possible life we can have.

This is what actual deen of islam is all about. This is what islamic purpose based proper education and training are all about so that all people could have the needed purpose based proper education, training and skills to fulfil and complete this project purposefully properly.

This is why mankind cannot afford to waste their time in religious and secular nonsense and instead they need to study the real world realities and book of God purposefully properly to become and remain a purpose based proper human community in kingdom of their creator and sustainer.

This is why all those people who reject and oppose these things and fight with each other are enemies of God as well as humanity. These like people come about because they do not prepare themselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon purpose based proper guidance of their creator and sustainer purposefully properly.

This makes it very obvious and clear for mankind which interpretation of the quran is purpose based proper and which is work of ignorant, illiterate, uneducated, untrained, unskilled, foolish and stupid people to mislead mankind.