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taban

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
یہ تو سیرئیل کِلر ہے کھوتی کا بچہ اسکے ماں باپ بھی اس جرم میں برابر کے شریک ہیں
 

3rd_Umpire

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
بے حس، اور بے ضمیر سیکیورٹی گارڈ کی چند ھزار کی نوکری ہی چلی جاتی، لیکن

بر وقت پولیس کو اطلاع دیکر، یا شور مچا کر ارد گرد کے لوگوں کو جمع کر کے ایک جان تو بچ سکتی تھی
افسوس' ہم آخرت کو بھلا کر،، صرف موجودہ لمحے میں جی رہے ہوتے ہیں
 

Keep the trust

Senator (1k+ posts)
بے حس، اور بے ضمیر سیکیورٹی گارڈ کی چند ھزار کی نوکری ہی چلی جاتی، لیکن

بر وقت پولیس کو اطلاع دیکر، یا شور مچا کر ارد گرد کے لوگوں کو جمع کر کے ایک جان تو بچ سکتی تھی
افسوس' ہم آخرت کو بھلا کر،، صرف موجودہ لمحے میں جی رہے ہوتے ہیں
Har kisi ko apni jaan piyari hoti hai, whatever was his response it’s normal infront of such janooni murderer.
 

Kavalier

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Curse your judiciary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes keep cursing the judiciary and never think about the root cause. It is bad governance, bad policing, bad check/balance, corrupt politicians and most of all mafia style military and civil establishment. After all of these come judiciary, even if it comes once in 1000 cases.

just yesterday, Punjab govt has released a culprit 18 months before his punishment, that too another psycho. And you re talking about judiciary
 

Visionartist

Senator (1k+ posts)
Noor muqaddam and zakir jafar were in "live in relationship"

What is live in relationship?​

Cohabitation​

A living arrangement in which an unmarried couple lives together in a long-term relationship that resembles a marriage. (mera jism meri marzi)
Couples cohabit, rather than marry, for a variety of reasons. They may want to test their compatibility before they commit to a legal union. They may want to maintain their single status for financial reasons. In some cases, such as those involving gay or lesbian couples, or individuals already married to another person, the law does not allow them to marry. In other cases, the partners may feel that marriage is unnecessary. Whatever the reasons, between 1970 and 1990, the number of couples living together outside of marriage quadrupled.

The law traditionally has been biased in favor of marriage. Public policy supports marriage as necessary to the stability of the family, the basic societal unit. To preserve and encourage marriage, the law reserves many rights and privileges to married persons. Cohabitation carries none of those rights and privileges.

In olden times such relationship was called "a relationship of master with her mistress" This called "rakheyl" in urdu. She was mistress or rakheyl of Zakir Jafar. they lived togeter and had sex or they were unmarried cohabiting couple.
I suppose when she refused sex (cohabiting) and the killer got mad. He killed her. Both parent of Zakir and noor knew this. When a man and a woman have sex relations for a long time; the "chowkidars" see the circumstances as a routine matter. And they (poor people) do not interfere for fear of loss of job.

She ran and got refuge in the cabin of "chowkidar".
Why did not she go out to street or neighbours? why cabin only, when she was under threat?
One point of view- This means that such incidents had happened earlier as well and "chowkidars" were witness to them in routine.


All this does not mean that the murder by zakir jafar was correct. Lif is precious and no one has right to take it except Allah.
 
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Visionartist

Senator (1k+ posts)
جان پیاری ہے، اور پھر بھی سکیورٹی گارڈ کی نوکری کر رہا ہے ؟؟
عجیب منطق ہے ۔ ۔ ۔
You have misunderstood. the chowkidar can not interfere in the internal affairs of a house especially when Noor was in live in relationship with Zakir.
 

Gujjar1

Senator (1k+ posts)
بے حس، اور بے ضمیر سیکیورٹی گارڈ کی چند ھزار کی نوکری ہی چلی جاتی، لیکن

بر وقت پولیس کو اطلاع دیکر، یا شور مچا کر ارد گرد کے لوگوں کو جمع کر کے ایک جان تو بچ سکتی تھی
افسوس' ہم آخرت کو بھلا کر،، صرف موجودہ لمحے میں جی رہے ہوتے ہیں
I always used to say that "Paksitan ka ghareeb tabka ya low level sab se zaalim hai". and belive i not just saying it i have seen it myself many times. Ye to aik misaal hai newspaper bhara hota hai aisi khabroo se.
 

Visionartist

Senator (1k+ posts)
Har kisi ko apni jaan piyari hoti hai, whatever was his response it’s normal infront of such janooni murderer.
بے حس، اور بے ضمیر سیکیورٹی گارڈ کی چند ھزار کی نوکری ہی چلی جاتی، لیکن

بر وقت پولیس کو اطلاع دیکر، یا شور مچا کر ارد گرد کے لوگوں کو جمع کر کے ایک جان تو بچ سکتی تھی
افسوس' ہم آخرت کو بھلا کر،، صرف موجودہ لمحے میں جی رہے ہوتے ہیں
You have misunderstood. the chowkidar can not interfere in the internal affairs of a house especially when Noor was in live in relationship (unmarried wife) with Zakir for last 2-3 years. Zahir was "malik" and she was something like "malikan". there is every likelyhood that the "chowkidar" took it as internal affair of a HOUSE.
 

Gujjar1

Senator (1k+ posts)
Noor muqaddam and zakir jafar were in "live in relationship"

What is live in relationship?​

Cohabitation​

A living arrangement in which an unmarried couple lives together in a long-term relationship that resembles a marriage. (mera jism meri marzi)
Couples cohabit, rather than marry, for a variety of reasons. They may want to test their compatibility before they commit to a legal union. They may want to maintain their single status for financial reasons. In some cases, such as those involving gay or lesbian couples, or individuals already married to another person, the law does not allow them to marry. In other cases, the partners may feel that marriage is unnecessary. Whatever the reasons, between 1970 and 1990, the number of couples living together outside of marriage quadrupled.

The law traditionally has been biased in favor of marriage. Public policy supports marriage as necessary to the stability of the family, the basic societal unit. To preserve and encourage marriage, the law reserves many rights and privileges to married persons. Cohabitation carries none of those rights and privileges.

In olden times such relationship was called "a relationship of master with her mistress" This called "rakheyl" in urdu. She was mistress or rakheyl of Zakir Jafar. they lived togeter and had sex or they were unmarried cohabiting couple.
I suppose when she refused sex (cohabiting) and the killer got mad. He killed her. Both parent of Zakir and noor knew this. When a man and a woman have sex relations for a long time; the "chowkidars" see the circumstances as a routine matter. And they (poor people) do not interfere for fear of loss of job.

She ran and got refuge in the cabin of "chowkidar".
Why did not she go out to street or neighbours? why cabin only, when she was under threat?
One point of view- This means that such incidents had happened earlier as well and "chowkidars" were witness to them in routine.


All this does not mean that the murder by zakir jafar was correct. Lif is precious and no one has right to take it except Allah.
i just want to add one thing Noor ka harami baap jo ab ro raha hai, jab wo zinda thee to us hifazat nahi ker saka aur ab beghirat tarhiyan laga raha hai.
 

Visionartist

Senator (1k+ posts)
Yes you are correct. this is a high profile crime.

Where parents of Zakir and Noor should be prosecuted for their carelessness. Their training of their children is the main cause of the crime.
or you can say
allowing "live in relationship" is the main cause of the crime.
 

Bubber Shair

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
یہاں ایک ممبر اپنا "لو ان" کا چورن بیچ رہا ہے جس کی نہ ضرورت اور نہ ہی ٹاپک، لڑکی قتل ہورہی ہے اس پر خنجرون سے کٹ لگاے جارہے ہیں مگر یہ بیوڑا کہہ رہا ہے کہ چونکہ وہ "لو ان"" میں تھے اس لئے گارڈ کوکوی ضرورت نہیں کہ کچھ کرے۔
گارڈ حفاظت کیلئے ہوتا ہے چاہے بیرونی ہو یا اندرونی۔ مثلا کوی مہمان گھر کے اندر آکر قیام کرے اور پھر گھر والوں پر حملہ کردے، شور شرابا سن کر گارڈ کہے کہ میں تو صرف باہر کا ذمہ دار ہوں؟
عجیب احمقانہ لوجک ہے؟
اندر مالک کو چھری سے کوی ذبح کررہا ہواور گارڈ کہے کہ سوری میں کچھ نہیں کرسکتا میں تو باہر کا محافظ ہوں؟
اس گارڈ کو پہلے جیل ہونی چاہئے کیونکہ لڑکی گارڈ روم میں پناہ لے چکی تھی جس کے بعد یہ اس کا ذمہ دار تھا۔ وہ جانتی تھی کہ گارڈ کی ذمہ داری ہے کہ وہ اسے پروٹیکشن دے اور پولیس کو اطلاع کرے اسی لئے وہ گارڈ روم میں گھسی تھی۔ اور گیٹ بھی لاک تھا۔ جن دوسرے گارڈز نے بھی یہ تماشا دیکھا انہیں بھی سزا ملنی چاہئے کیونکہ قانون کچھ نہ کرنے کو بھی جرم کی معاونت سمجھتا ہے
 
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Bubber Shair

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Yes you are correct. this is a high profile crime.

Where parents of Zakir and Noor should be prosecuted for their carelessness. Their training of their children is the main cause of the crime.
or you can say
allowing "live in relationship" is the main cause of the crime.
تمہاری بات ویسے بھی پڑھی جاسکتی ہے کم ازکم فونٹ تو نارمل رکھو اوپر سے بولڈ کرکے لکھ رہے ہو۔ تمہارا سارا زور جس نقطے پر ہے وہ بھی پہلے دن سے سب کو معلوم ہے کوی نئی خبر نہیں
لڑکی قتل ہورہی ہو تو چاہے وہ گرل فرینڈ ہی کیوں نہ ہو اس کی جان بچانا گارڈ کا فرض تھا اور یہ ان کی ٹریننگ کا حصہ ہوتا ہے۔ بلکہ یہ بھی جرم ہے کہ کوی زخمی سڑک پر پڑا ہو اور آپ مدد کیلئے نہ رکیں
 
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