Zakah1/Saeed1 Says America and Israel Control Iran

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
They want to bomb Iran and every president said they would do it yet no one has ever done it because it is a lie. It is just television drama.

US gave bombs too Saddam too bomb Iran and they were at loggerheads for a decade or so. Thousands maybe millions died. At that time Saddam was there poodle and was used against Iran. US also killed one of there democratic leaders of Iran. Yes they all have been saying it but have been busy bombing other Muslim countries and now recently came close.

Why would US president keep on saying they would, what's the point of that if they did not mean it?

Why would US put sanctions on Iran?

Why would US keep on putting Iran down internationally, what is the point of that?

Why are Iranian leaders and people for decades cursing US and Israel?


Hamas is a thorn to Israel? LOL okay. How? Hamas has killed zero Israeli soldiers, in fact a Hamas leader was even TREATED in an Israeli hospital. Even Hamas and Israel admitted to this.

Sorry I got confused with Hamas thinking it was hizbullah. Anyhow here is a good video for you to watch concerning Hamas.

I meant hizbullah is some kind of thorn too Israel, note hizbullah has links with Iran



Again you are just repeating TV propaganda. We get it, you watch TV. We hear it being hammered in our skulls every day. We know how this old story goes.

Not everything TV says is true however not everything is a lie as well. Your opinion on Iran being some kind of puppets oaf Isreal I think is absurd, Isreal may have some rogue elements in Iran however by in large they can't do much from within Iran.

Too some it up Iran has been cursing US and Israel for Decades, no Muslim country in the last decade or two has been so vocal.

US has placed sanctions on Iran and have always threatened Iran also US gave Saddam Hussein weapons of mass destruction to kill Iranian people.

Hizbullah has killed Israeli soldiers and caused them problems which is being funded by Iran.

If Iran is a puppet they would not say all the things they say against US and Israel, and just boot polish Israel like many other Arab countries do. That would be more favourable too Israel.
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
And of course as usual, you have chose to ignore any points in the video or any point that I mentioned.

Iran was ALLIED with America in Afghanistan under the Northern Alliance. This isn't a secret, if you would just move your hands for a few seconds to do some research, other than watch TV all day, you would see this truth. It is public knowledge, even president Khatami admitted to this.

So was Pakistan in fact PK was an open supporter and got dollies for it, there help you US was way more than Iran.

As for Northern alliance yes I am bot disagreeing with you, Iran did not like Taliban and Al qaida and vice versa. So they supported Northern alliance for there own interests. Does not mean they are poodles of US..

Iran was ALLIED with America in Iraq with the Badr Brigade. There are numerous videos of Iraqis talking about how the puppet government of Iraq used Iranian militias. They ran torture chambers all over the country. But forget the militias for a second, it is PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE that Iraq and Iran are ALLIES!!!! So the US created government of Iraq is allied with Iran. Move your hands a little bit and do research instead of just watching zionist propaganda all day.

Yes Iran was involved in Iraq because they wanted Saddam to go have you forgotten how Saddam treated the shite of Iraq and Iran? Iran wanted a foothold in Iran so they sat back allowed US to do what they wanted once they were able Iran sent there forces inside Iraq as well to get a foothold. How does that make Iran poodles of US?
Yes Iraq leadership has a soft spot for Iran because they both are shia and there is a vast amount of shia in both countries. US had a puppet called Saddam who was against Iran but now with large amounts of shia in Iraq there was bound to be a shia in power. US cannot control everything the way they want, they were intent in sucking up OIL in Iraq that was there main purpose, for US to get an anti Iranian leader in Iraq would be very difficult because the millions of shia in Iraq would not agree.
 

alhamdolillaah

Voter (50+ posts)
Cursing doesn't do anything, I mean Obama and Trump curse each other but they are in reality both Zionists and anyone who isn't completely brainwashed knows this fact. So again, TV drama doesn't prove anything. It's not proof to show twitter posts.

Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas, these are all controlled opposition. You ask why do they fight (on TV and in press conferences, not in real life) well it's because they want the enemies of America and Israel to side with Iran. That's the whole point of a controlled opposition. They want the anti zionists to side with the crypto zionists as a way to control the opposition.

It's actually not a conspiracy "theory", this happens all of the time. For example, Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomsky. They are the academic anti zionists, yet they actually SUPPORT Israel as a nation. They just believe it should be 1967 borders but they still support the state of Israel.

Same with George Galloway, he used to be an anti war advocate and now he literally has admitted to wanting a "coalition" to bomb Syria Iraq etc. His excuse is ISIS but that's always the excuse. The excuse is always to fight terror but in the end bomb real resistance of the Zionists.

People first support Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, George Galloway, Hezboshaytun, and Iran because they are against Israel and America. But in the very end, Chomsky/Finkelstein support Israel, Galloway calls for bombing Moslem countries, Hezboshaytun protects Israel's borders and fakes wars to be seen as heroes of Moslems, and Iran HELPS AMERICA in Afghanistan and Iraq!

You keep saying "vocal". "Cursing" "speaking against". What do all these have in common? All talk no action.
 

alhamdolillaah

Voter (50+ posts)
Just a side note: Hezbollah or Hezboshaytaan is an Israeli creation. You see, all of these so called enemies of Israel are really devils who protect Israel. They want to deceive people to join their "resistance" which is really controlled by mossad operatives like "Hassan Nasrallah".

Here is an article proving it years ago: "Hizbullah or Hizbushaytan?" https://www.islamicity.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6007
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Just a side note: Hezbollah or Hezboshaytaan is an Israeli creation. You see, all of these so called enemies of Israel are really devils who protect Israel. They want to deceive people to join their "resistance" which is really controlled by mossad operatives like "Hassan Nasrallah".

Here is an article proving it years ago: "Hizbullah or Hizbushaytan?" https://www.islamicity.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6007
What exactly does this article prove, you said proof if I write a post in islamcity and give it a title PK will rule the world does that make it true. What are you actually saying it doesn't prove squat it is the same type of stuff you are saying. Here is a video of George Galloway embarrassing Israel on national TV and boosting Hezbollah. Bow let's say this is propaganda why would Israel want George to come on tv to cuss the crap out of them and show there soldiers are getting a pasting?

Why would the Zionist media allow him to make them look like fools?

 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
Citizen X you are a complete dog of khazaria and the government. Stop stalking me and Dread Robert and zakah1. It's getting really weird. We know you are being paid to drown out the truth with your rubbish, you are at your computer 24.7 monitoring these forums.

This video doesn't even have anything to do with shiism and besides, your Izlamb and shiism are two sides of the same coin. Get lost with your television propaganda. We don't need that junk here.
Citizen X is just trying to get this post banned by causing sectarianism. He is agreeing but subliminally trying to sabotage this post. NO ONE even mentioned shiism, this was about satanic governments but you of course muddy the waters and distract from the topic because you are a dog of the government.
? ? ? ? You have an over inflated opinion about yourself.
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
And just a side note, notice that these comment trolls don't respond to one single point made. They just call it a conspiracy theory. But it's a fact that Iran is part of the United Nations, it's a fact that the United Nations invaded Afghanistan. This is why they insult and don't respond to one point, because they have nothing to say about the truth.
What points? Just baseless jibberish man! Ok fine bring out your "points" and watch me shoot them down like its duck hunting season!
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
Iran is the most outspoken against Israel when it comes too Palestinians.
Don't get fooled, its just lip service, they created this who Quds brigade for the Palestinians cause, led by that dog of hell Qasim Solemani, what have they done till now, fuck all other than exporting terrorism all over the world. Not even a single stone throw towards by this Quds Brigade.
 

alhamdolillaah

Voter (50+ posts)
What exactly does this article prove, you said proof if I write a post in islamcity and give it a title PK will rule the world does that make it true. What are you actually saying it doesn't prove squat it is the same type of stuff you are saying. Here is a video of George Galloway embarrassing Israel on national TV and boosting Hezbollah. Bow let's say this is propaganda why would Israel want George to come on tv to cuss the crap out of them and show there soldiers are getting a pasting?

Why would the Zionist media allow him to make them look like fools?

Your proof is a sky news video with George Galloway? I already explained that George Galloway is controlled opposition, cussing doesn't make any change in reality. There is a lot of cussing on the reality TV show Jersey Shore as well.
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
CNN = Fox News = Russian Television (RT) = Israeli propaganda = BBC News = NBC
Democrat = Republican = So Called Independents = Green Party
America = Iran = Saudi Arabia = Russia = Israel = Puppet Afghan and Iraqi Governments
Dr Adam = Citizen X = Respect = Any Other Comment Troll Who Promotes TV Narrative

All the same trash. They all repeat the government story. And anyone who goes against the TV narrative is crazy and not normal. So we must do taqleed on television and conform otherwise we will be insulted and bullied for what we wear. Lol what a joke.
See you're Nucking Futs dude this is a forum for Pakistani politics, no body here watches CNN FOX or gives a shit about any democrat or repiblican. We mostly discuss Pakistani Pakistani politics, you don't even understand, speak or read Urdu, the hell you are doing here anyways? Until maybe 3 weeks back nobody here knew you or your stupid boss zakah existed and what that clown was all about.

And if you are going to bring you Ohhhh the world is run by zionist jews and every night all these world leaders get togther and hang out at their secret volcano island secret evil layer and drink blood while they laugh like madmen while dicussing their plans to take over the world , then expect to be called on you heretical over the top nonsensical conspiracy theory bullshit!

Capsiche Amigo ( Btw that was my secret zionist jew signal to the the zionist jew mods to ban you! Muhahahahaha ??????)

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alhamdolillaah

Voter (50+ posts)
? ? ? ? You have an over inflated opinion about yourself.
It's an opinion about you, every post that says Zakah1 I see your khazarian head pop up. Of course you lie and say 3 weeks but Ive seen you comment on zakah1 forum topics here from months ago.

You defend zionist propaganda constantly and anyone who speaks against zionism you call them a conspiracy theorist. Complete and utter TV promoting trash.
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
It's an opinion about you, every post that says Zakah1 I see your khazarian head pop up. Of course you lie and say 3 weeks but Ive seen you comment on zakah1 forum topics here from months ago.

You defend zionist propaganda constantly and anyone who speaks against zionism you call them a conspiracy theorist. Complete and utter TV promoting trash like the rest of your friends here.
WTF is a khazarian ? Man half the made up terms you use nobody even know what they mean! LOL
 

There is only 1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Iran helped America invade Afghanistan with the Northern Alliance, they literally admitted it. And Iran also helped America in Iraq with the Badr Brigade. The puppet governments of Afghanistan and Iraq are allied with BOTH Iran AND America!

So if you currently watch TV or Youtube channels that are spewing the same nonsense as TV, turn it off because it will rot your brain.

As a matter of fact, Iran America Saudi Arabia Israel Russia, none of these countries are separate. In other words, they are the same ONE government. There is no difference between them whatsoever. It's time to stop sleeping everyone. Time to start waking up to the satanic governments around us. How can you defend Iran when they literally are allied with the American made governments of Afghanistan and Iraq? See, TV will make you lose your common sense.

By the way, Ismail Haniya is Zionist governor of Gaza. Hamas = Israel = Iran = America = Russia = Saudi Arabia
What about Pakistan?
Pakistan also helped US invading afghanistan.
So Pakistan is also in control of US and Israel?
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Cursing doesn't do anything, I mean Obama and Trump curse each other but they are in reality both Zionists and anyone who isn't completely brainwashed knows this fact. So again, TV drama doesn't prove anything. It's not proof to show twitter posts.

when two countries have been cussing each other for decades it means a lot. When a country like US gives bombs to Saddam to gas bomb Iranians it means a lot. When numerous presidents say we will bomb Iran it means a lot. When a general of Iran is killed by US in Iraqi soil it means a lot. When sanctions have been placed on Iran by US it means a lot.
Yes Trump and Obama are from the same clan.


Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas, these are all controlled opposition. You ask why do they fight (on TV and in press conferences, not in real life) well it's because they want the enemies of America and Israel to side with Iran. That's the whole point of a controlled opposition. They want the anti zionists to side with the crypto zionists as a way to control the opposition.

Hamas has been fighting Israel for decades but keeps on getting it's backside beaten.

Hezbollah and Iran well here it goes again

It's actually not a conspiracy "theory", this happens all of the time. For example, Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomsky. They are the academic anti zionists, yet they actually SUPPORT Israel as a nation. They just believe it should be 1967 borders but they still support the state of Israel.

So what if they agree in a Israel state?

Same with George Galloway, he used to be an anti war advocate and now he literally has admitted to wanting a "coalition" to bomb Syria Iraq etc. His excuse is ISIS but that's always the excuse. The excuse is always to fight terror but in the end bomb real resistance of the Zionists.

Who are the resistance fighters you are speaking about surely not ISIS?

Syria has been bombed from left right and centre not sure if there is any place left too bomb.

Concerning ISIS George says they have been created by US I think.



People first support Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, George Galloway, Hezboshaytun, and Iran because they are against Israel and America. But in the very end, Chomsky/Finkelstein support Israel, Galloway calls for bombing Moslem countries, Hezboshaytun protects Israel's borders and fakes wars to be seen as heroes of Moslems, and Iran HELPS AMERICA in Afghanistan and Iraq!

America did not need Iran help in Afghanistan but in Iraq did not want Iran to get involved in the sense going against them and making things difficult for them.

Bro it was Pakistan that helped US against Afghanistan.


You keep saying "vocal". "Cursing" "speaking against". What do all these have in common? All talk no action.

Your proof is a sky news video with George Galloway? I already explained that George Galloway is controlled opposition, cussing doesn't make any change in reality. There is a lot of cussing on the reality TV show Jersey Shore as well.

So why would Israel or controlled opposition allow themselves be humiliated in that video, dead Israeli soldiers and sky news correspondent made too look like a fool?
 

There is only 1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
کوئی دن گزرتا نہیں جب اس بڈھے جاہل کی جاہلیت نا بے نقاب ہوئی ہو
ایک دن کہتا ہے کہ امریکا نے ایران کو دہشت گرد نامزد کر دیا لہٰذا ایران دہشت گرد ہوا
دوسرے دن کہتا ہے کہ نہیں ایران تو امریکا و اسرائیل کے کنٹرول میں ہے
? ? ? ? ?
ایک دن کہتا ہے کہ فلاں فلاں خاصیت والے لوگ اس کے نزدیک مسلمان ہیں
دوسرے دن اسے پتا چلتا ہے کہ اس کے قبیلے میں ایک نیا فسادی گروہ پیدا ہو گیا ہے اور اس کی بیان کردہ خاصیت اس میں بھی پائی جاتی ہے
???
 

alhamdolillaah

Voter (50+ posts)
So why would Israel or controlled opposition allow themselves be humiliated in that video, dead Israeli soldiers and sky news correspondent made too look like a fool?

The controlled opposition do everything to gain support of the real opposition. In other words, they play both sides so they never lose. Just look at democrats and republicans, they are the exact same thing yet pretend to be sworn enemies. They insult like they are on reality TV and "fight" but in reality they are controlled by the same people.

"Looking like a fool" has no EFFECT on reality. It's just a show
 

Dr Adam

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
? ? ? ? You have an over inflated opinion about yourself.

Typical case! khotay per kitaboun ki boori laad dow to woh apnay aapko scholar samjhna shuru ho jata hai.
Isko to yeh nahi pata ho gaa keh iskay avatar main "rainbow" maghrib main... jin per yeh khudai khidmatgaar bun kay laan taan ker raha hai, kis cheez kay leeaye stand kerta hai.
 

There is only 1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
US and Israel want too bomb Iran. They are allied against RUssia and Iran in Syria. Iran openly curses US and Israel. US killed a army man recently from Iran who was visiting Iraq. US has put sanctions on Iran.
Hamas has been a thorn towards Israel they have had conflicts and Hamas has killed Israeli soldiers.

the facts out there completely destroy this argument. We need to get realistic and stop living in fools paradise. Things can change if US and Israel get a foothold in Iran and get a regime change. Iran is the most outspoken against Israel when it comes too Palestinians.
Dear! do not try to convince these people. They are extreme firqa parst dajali. Just give them a little bit "phakki". That will be enough.