DISCUSSION ON THE BLASPHEMOUS MOVIE ON PROPHET SAW, Its REAL MOTIVES and Our RESPONSE

insaf4life

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Anti-Islam film: As Muslim world erupts, PTA scrambles to block video

that movie is still alive:(:(:( not yet blocked duh....shame on youtube
 

moazzamniaz

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: DISCUSSION ON THE NEW MOVIE ON PROPHET SAW And MOTIVES

کیا کتوں کو بھونکنے سے روکا جا سکتا ہے؟؟؟ نہیں

کیا چند زنخوں کو اس بات سے روکا جا سکتا ہے کہ وہ غلط -ملط چیزیں دیکھ کر بے غیرتی کا مظاہرہ کرنے سے پرہیز کریں؟؟؟؟ بالکل نہیں

اسکا مطلب ہے کہ کتے بھونکتے رہینگے اور چند احمق خسرے اس بھونک کی تھاپ پر دیوانہ وار رقص کر کے خود مرتے اور دوسروں کو مارتے رہینگے

اور اسی اوپر والی سطر میں انسانی تاریخ کی سب سے طویل اور خونریز خاندانی لڑائی کا حل بھی موجود ہے
 

Justice.Yes

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: US-ISRAEL Produces Blasphemy MOVIE Against PROPHET MOHAMMAD (SAW). EXTREME INSULT. All records broken.

AOA
Dear brother I thank you for your kind opinion but except the last part I do NOT agree with you.

Reply to Answer 1: I do consider it an insult when we do not 'follow' the actions of the Greatest Man in the History of Mankind. People who worship love & idolize celebrities tend to follow their 'idol' in every which way they can.

Reply to Answer 2: getting angry about things others do and we ourselves fall short, I call it 'hypocrisy'.

But brother this is my humble opinion and I may be wrong but we need to 'clean' our house before we go accusing others of 'insulting' the Prophet pbuh or Islam.


Answer 1: Muslims don't "insult" the actions my brother. But they are not following. There is a lot of difference between insulting and not following. But at least every Muslim do follow at some extent. Can't say 100% not following (for majority)

Answer 2: True. If non-muslim "INSULT" Islam, then its a worse nightmare for Muslims. Any Muslim whether he practice Islam or not, he got Iman in his heart of how much weight (ALLAH KNOWS) but it exists. So when anyone tries to Insult Islam in any form, then the same guy stands up and tries to become defence shield for Islam why Because of Iman in his heart.

I didn't wanted to offend you but brother if we think as a Human (no religion involved), even then our Prophet Mohammad pbuh was/is/will remain the best of the Creations of Allah. As Prophet Mohammad pbuh is a mercy for humankind and all the creations of Allah (not for only Muslims but for whole humanity). So why someone as a Human will insult such a Greatest Personality pbuh of all times. Isn't it against humanity.
 

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: DISCUSSION ON THE NEW MOVIE ON PROPHET SAW And MOTIVES

its not about protesting... is about how r u doing it... if ur doing what the creator of teh blasphmous material wanted.. u r doing more blasphemy than the moview guy did...

bus aqal kee zaroora thai ye cheez samjhney ke liye....

this movie was created in english long tim eback.. when no one erupted.. the creator thoughg OKAYY. in jahiloan ko shayad english nahee samajh aatee.. then he translated in arabic and posted on youtube again....

JOB DONE... he must be laughin at u fools....

the protest shud be at teh govt level.. and on youtube who refused to take the video down... saudi arabia , iran must call the diplomats and put pressure on youtube to remove this .... that is the correct way to solve it...
those who protested are not jahil.jahil are materialistic so called muslims who advocate no action against blasphemy so muslims also become like chrsitians.daily hindus and jews do sickening blasphemy against prophet eesa in their movies.but christians dont mind.
people like you want that muslims also become like christians and dont care about their prophets honour.so that people like you and their relatives can earn in kufar countries and get education , jobs and ayashi their .etc.

sorry no muslim will buy what you are selling .so sell it to your like minded people
 
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staray khaatir

Minister (2k+ posts)
Who is 'Sam Bacile'?

[h=3]By BRET STEPHENS[/h]U.S. diplomatic missions in Libya, Egypt and Yemen have come under violent assault in recent days, all ostensibly on account of an online trailer for a film nobody has seen called "Innocence of Muslims." The 14-minute clip, almost comically badly acted, depicts the Muslim Prophet Muhammad in a, well, unflattering light. The actors in the clip have insisted they were duped into thinking the film was set 2,000 years ago in (pre-Islamic) Egypt, and that the Muhammad character was named "George." The anti-Islamic thrust of the clip appears to have been added later by way of some crude overdubbing.
Since then questions have swirled about the identity of the film-maker. On Tuesday, the Journal spoke to a man who claimed to be the director and called himself Sam Bacile. He described himself as a 52-year-old Israeli-American real-estate developer, called Islam a "cancer," and said the film had been funded by Jewish donors to the tune of $5 million.
But as the Journal reports, there are no records of a "Sam Bacile" either in the U.S. or Israel. The Journal also reports that "Sam Bacile's" phone number was traced to an address in Cerritos, Calif., which appears to be the home of somebody named Nakoula Bassely Nakoula. Along with a "Sam Basselley," Mr. Nakoula is listed as one of the film's producers. In a conversation with the Associated Press, he denied being Sam Bacile but claimed to be a Coptic Christian and the manager of the company that had produced the film. Records indicate that a man named Nakoula Nakoula recently served a prison sentence for bank fraud. Among his known aliases are Mark Basseley Youssef and Youssef M. Basseley.
With help from a tipster, I've done some sleuthing myself and come up with a few intriguing leads. Until the page suddenly vanished yesterday, someone named Sam Bassel had a Facebook page in which he identified himself as a male "Movei [sic] maker" in Hollywood, California. Also promoted as a "Favorite" on the page is a movie called "Innocence of bin Laden," which seems to have been the original title for "Innocence of Muslims." Most of the written exchanges on the page are in Arabic, and most of Sam Bassel's Facebook friends appear to be of Arab origin as well. Also listed as a Favorite on the page is a link to a Facebook group called "I am Egyptian."
The "Sam Bassel" Facebook page abruptly vanished yesterday. But I caught a screen grab of the page before it disappeared.
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Note the name under the "Work and Education" tag: "matthew mtta dba," in Norwalk Calif. A Google search finds that a legal notice for a Fictitious Business Name Statement was posted in the Nov. 4-10, 2010 issue of the San Gabriel Valley Examiner, on page B11. It reads: "The following person(s) doing business as: MATTHEW MTTA" and gives the registrant's name as "Abanob Basseley," along with an address in Norwalk.
So who is Abanob Basseley? Yesterday I called a number listed to that name with an address in Cerritos, CAthe same town in which Nakoula Nakoula apparently lives. The number was no longer in service, so the hunt goes on. But a few tentative conclusions:
Sam Bacile/Bassel is not an Israeli-American, and his attempt to pass himself off as one is a potentially deadly slander. His filmif there really is any footage beyond the 14-minute clipdid not cost anything like $5 million to make. There is no cabal of Jewish donors who put up the money. Sam Bassel, or whoever used that name as a Facebook alias, speaks and writes fluent Arabic and likely has an Egyptian background. The name Abanob Basseley is, as one Egyptian friend tells me, as typically Coptic as, say, Mohammad is Muslim or Shlomo is Jewish. (St. Abonoub is a Coptic saint named after an Egyptian child martyred by the Romans.) The fact that the film was publicly promoted by Morris Sadek, the head of the National American Coptic Assembly, also suggests a Coptic connection to the film.
No doubt we'll learn more about "Sam Bacile" in the days to come. What effect, if any, an accurate account of the video clip's true origins will have on the protesters rampaging in Arab capitals remains to be seen.
Mr. Stephens writes Global View, the Journal's foreign affairs column.
 

In flames

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: DISCUSSION ON THE BLASPHEMOUS MOVIE ON PROPHET SAW And REAL MOTIVES

Iranian link is also being suspected in this blasphemous movie, not only Prophet Muhammad Pbuh was insulted (Maaz Allah) but hey also insulted Hazrat Umar R.A and wives of the prophet.
 

Islam4globe

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: DISCUSSION ON THE BLASPHEMOUS MOVIE ON PROPHET SAW And REAL MOTIVES

Protest spread across the globe.

PAKISTAN need to WAKE UP. now
 

Afraheem

Senator (1k+ posts)
مجھے ہے حکم ازاں . غیرت مسلم کہاں گیئ؟

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خلافت کے آخری دور میں جب اس وقت کی بڑی طاقتوں برطانیہ اور فرانس نے رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کی شان میں گستاخی پر مبنی وولٹائر کا لکھا ہوا

اسٹیج ڈرامہ منعقد کرنے کا اعلان کیا تو آخری خلیفہ سلطان عبدالحمید دوئم نے فرانس کے سفیر کو طلب کیا-ہاتھ میں تلوار لئے جنگی لباس پہنے ہوئے اسے وہاں سے نکل جان کو کہا - فرانس کو اسکا سخت پیغام پہنچا اور فرانس ڈرامہ منعقد کرنے سے باز آگیا-


اسی طرح کی انتباہ برطانیہ کو بھی دی گئ تو جواب آیا ' ٹکٹ بک چکے ہیں، اور کھیل پر پابندی عائد کرنے سے اس کے شہریوں کی آزادی کی خلاف ورزی ہو گی.'
اس پر مندرجہ ذیل فتوی خلیفہ کی طرف واضح الفاظ میں جاری کیا گیا-
"میں یہ فتوی جاری کرتا ہوں کہ رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کی شان میں گستاخی ایک حملہ تصور کیا جائے گا اس پر میں جہاد کا اعلان کرتا ہوں" خلیفہ کا ایسا کہنا تھا کہ نہ صرف برطانیہ نے ڈرامے پر پابندی عائد کی بلکہ خلافت سے باقاعدہ معافی بھی طلب کی ....

آج بھی کفار بار بار توہین آمیز خاکے اور فلمیں بنا کر مسلمانوں کی غیرت کو للکار رہے ہیں .. پر مسلمان کفار کی اس توہین کا صحیح طور جواب نہیں دے پا رہے جس کی وجہ آج مسلمانوں کی طاقت خلافت کا موجود نہ ہونا ہے جس سے کفار پر غلبہ حاصل کیا جا سکے ، خلافت کے قیام کے ذریعہ ہی کفار کی ہر قسم کی سازش کا مقابلہ کیا جا سکتا ہے

حدیث نبوی رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ہے
بے شک خلیفہ ہی ڈھال ہے جس کے پیچھے رہ کر لڑا جاتا ہے اور اسی کے ذریعے تحفظ حاصل ہوتا ہے (مسلم )
--بشکریہ: Kharian People

میں پوچھتا ہوں، آج ایٹم بم اور وہ تیل کے بھرے ڈرم کہاں ہے؟؟؟ کہاں ہے، وہ غیرت مسلماں؟؟؟ کہاں ہے ذوق شہادت؟؟؟ کہاں ہے آج دین دار حاکم؟؟؟ سمجھ جاؤ، حق اور سچ کون تھا، اور کون ہے۔ تو بھہت اچھا ہے۔۔ ورنہ سمجھانے والے زیادہ دیر تک بول نہیں سکتے، یا چپ کروا دیئے جاتے ہیں۔۔ یا مروا دیئے جاتے ہیں۔۔۔ اللہ دور حاضر کے مسلمان کو سمجھنے کی توفیق عطا فرماۓ ۔۔ آمین۔۔ ثم آمین۔۔۔

صلی اللہ علیہ وسلما تسلیما کثیرا۔۔
(سعد)
 

coolhaider

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Anti-Islam film: As Muslim world erupts, PTA scrambles to block video

movie is still there altaf hussain ki teraf se bhi koi ehtejaj nahi hua
true face of our leaders and mqm sirf imran khan k tweets aye hain
 

coolhaider

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Anti-Islam film: As Muslim world erupts, PTA scrambles to block video

pta ne kia block kia hai ? movie is not yet blocked
 

Geek

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Protests held across Pakistan against blasphemous film

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The controversial American film on Islam which has irked Muslims across the world has also resulted in several protests across Pakistan demanding the expulsion of the US Ambassador and cut off in ties between the two countries.


Majlis Wahdatul Muslameen rallied from the G-5 Imam Bargah in Islamabad up to the US embassy on Friday, however, the strict security arrangements at the embassy prevented any untoward incident during the protest. In a similar protest in Libya, the protesters had attacked the US embassy and also killed the US Ambassador to Libya, after which security at all US embassies across the world was tightened.

The protesters in Islamabad said that the film should be banned across the world and the filmmakers should be severely punished. They also demanded that the US should apologise for the film. Pakistan, India and Afghanistan have already blocked access to the movie, while US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton maintained that the movie was not supported by the US.


The Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) which held protests in several cities including Peshawar, Karachi and Swat, claiming that the movie was supported by the US, and it was trying to provoke extremism by using different tactics. The party members and supporters threatened to attack the US embassy in Islamabad if the Pakistani government did not protest against the film.


JI Chief Munawar Hassan, addressing a protest rally in the Nazimabad area of Karachi, demanded that the US government ban the movie and also demanded the Interior ministry of Pakistan lodge a protest with the US ambassador.


The rally in Lahore was organised by Tehreek-e-Hurmat-e-Rasool which was taken out from Green Chowk to Sohrab Khan, while the one in Multan was organised by Jamiat Talba Arbia and Shehri Mahaz. Protesters threw shoes at US and Israeli flags and set them on fire.


Apart from religious entities, the district bar lawyers also protested against the film in Sargodha and boycotted all court proceedings. They said that the government should demand the US to offer a formal apology for hurting the sanctity of the Muslims or shut down their embassy.


The lawyers also demanded a boycott of all American products.

Source
 

Believer12

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: مجھے ہے حکم ازاں . غیرت مسلم کہاں گیئ؟

سنت پر عمل کرنا ھے تو وھی کریں جو رسول کریم نے طائف کے لوگوں کے ساتھ کیا۔
اوراگر اپنی مرضی کرنی ھے تو پھر امریکی اور یورپین ایمبیسیز جلا دیں اور جو بھی ویسٹرن باشندہ نظر اے اسے قتل کر دیں،،،،،پر امت کا فائدہ سنت میں ھی ھے۔
 

Awais Afzal

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: DISCUSSION ON THE NEW MOVIE ON PROPHET SAW And MOTIVES

I think dimagh naam ke koi cheez nahi aap men? men koi saazshi mulla nai hn na kisi ke baton men aa rha hn.na meri koi zaati lraye h jo nabi k baray men baat kray ga wo aisay he jwaabon ka mustahiq hoga.men ne qadianio ko ye tow nai kaha k musalman hi jao wrna goli maar dun ga?..men ne bs ye kaha h k es muamlay men muslmanon k jazbaton ko aur na bhrkayen apnay librel khyalat se.:angry_smile:

zahir hai. dunya mein har beyaqal saazish k peechey kisi Qadiyani ka haath hai na?

agar Rasoolullah SAWW sey itni muhabat hai, tau uss muhabat ka najaiz faida utha kar doosroun par nafrat k thook na barsao!!

Warna aap ney uss badbakht film k badbakht director ki baat sachi saabit kar dee: Musalman deen k naam par zulm o jabar karney k liye har waqt tayyar hain aur Islam ik jabir mazhab hai

agar aap iss baat ko sahi nahin mantey tau apney ussi RABB k waastey apney jazbaat par CONTROL seekho aur khoon-khaar jangjoo ki tarhan mat behave karo!!

Agar aap khud doosroun ki tanqeed aur baatein bardasht nahin karsaktey tau phir aapney iss dunya ka tamam imtehan FAIL kar diye!
 

mr.pti

Minister (2k+ posts)
Imran Khan first muslim leader called upon OIC to take action against blasphemous movie

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Copied from facebook not my words

May Allah Bless Mr. Imran Khan (while other leaders are sleeping) for being the first Muslim leader to have called upon the OIC to take action against the extremely provocating and blasphemous film produced under a well thought out US-Israeli conspiracy.
 
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Wajdan

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Imran Khan only and first muslim leader called upon OIC to take action against blasphemous movie ( how long before NS will do the same ? i bet 1 day )

Can you please provide source or link to news?
 

rajaokayoum

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Imran Khan only and first muslim leader called upon OIC to take action against blasphemous movie ( how long before NS will do the same ? i bet 1 day )

IK is born with leaders quality .....others are made by establishment and given power to rule but failed..........
 

PoliticsInPK

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Imran Khan only and first muslim leader called upon OIC to take action against blasphemous movie ( how long before NS will do the same ? i bet 1 day )

Stop this nonsense.

I think IK should ask Taliban to stop killing Shia and other innocent Paksitanis. Taliban might listen to him because Sheikh Rasheed alreay begged Mullah Umar to welcome IK.

When Taliban bomb mosques or school they burn Quran too. why our leaders do not condemn those who are burnining quran in our own country. We have hundreds of Terry Jones living in North Waziristan.
 

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