A girl murdered in Lahore, Just because she didn't bring enough 'Jahaiz'

aamir_uetn

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
well you can still find the person with right mentality if you focus but a lot of people don't do that...yeah good idea..aap siasat say hi shaadi kar lo...kam say kam aap kay sir pay belan toh nahin maaray gi woh..:lol:
pata nai mujhe aisa kyun lagta hai k right person dhoondne se nai, qismat se milta hai, koi belan na marney wala person kisi naseeb walay he ko milta hai, baaqi sab ko to sar pe seedha belan along with handi doi [hilar]
 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Men are totally independent, We cook, clean and do everything alone before marriage! Men now don't want to marry some semi literate or ba/bcom girls ; so Mistreatment is very rare in our generation.

Well I want to exclude Indian girls living abroad ;the are more educated and sophisticated. I found it lacking among Pakistani/Bengali girls settled abroad!

The very aim of living abroad is to have good education and follow western ethics in right sense!!

and how much men cook and clean after marriage? (bigsmile)....the problem is not men their families in most scenarios....now if the boy is living alone, situation tends to be much better...

Pakistani benglai girls are lacking in what exactly: education or willingness to contribute to house work?
 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
pata nai mujhe aisa kyun lagta hai k right person dhoondne se nai, qismat se milta hai, koi belan na marney wala person kisi naseeb walay he ko milta hai, baaqi sab ko to sar pe seedha belan along with handi doi [hilar]

I agree...focus on being a good person, ask Allah for a good partner and he will surely reward you with a wonderful person...:)

ah yes, how can one forget khadaktay huay bartan...:P
 

A.Ali.T

Minister (2k+ posts)
Men are totally independent, We cook, clean and do everything alone before marriage! Men now don't want to marry some semi literate or ba/bcom girls ; so Mistreatment is very rare in our generation.

Well I want to exclude Indian girls living abroad ;the are more educated and sophisticated. I found it lacking among Pakistani/Bengali girls settled abroad!

The very aim of living abroad is to have good education and follow western ethics in right sense!!

Wow1 What a sweeping statement. I don't know much about Bengali girls, but I have seen Pakistani girls doing medicine, law, pharmacy, economics and what not. You need to broaden your horizon.
 
and how much men cook and clean after marriage? (bigsmile)....the problem is not men their families in most scenarios....now if the boy is living alone, situation tends to be much better...

Pakistani benglai girls are lacking in what exactly: education or willingness to contribute to house work?

Woh to aap Unicorn jee se pucho!! Deen bhar Siasat mein Peekar tunn rehta hai :)
They lack in education due to lack of support from their family. The key to success is integration in the western society and avoiding to live in ghettos of people from same country. UK is one of the best example where desi community have screwed and turned west into corrupt lala land!
 

aamir_uetn

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I agree...focus on being a good person, ask Allah for a good partner and he will surely reward you with a wonderful person...:)

ah yes, how can one forget khadaktay huay bartan...:P
mashallah flsfay k sath sath mashwarey bhi achay deti hain aap, i totally agree, main Allah se dua karoon ga sajday mein jaa k ya Allah mujhe bar bar nayee bartan khreedney se bachaa....aameeen , aap bhi kahiye :lol:
 

A.Ali.T

Minister (2k+ posts)
Woh to aap Unicorn jee se pucho!! Deen bhar Siasat mein Peekar tunn rehta hai :)
They lack in education due to lack of support from their family. The key to success is integration in the western society and avoiding to live in ghettos of people from same country. UK is one of the best example where desi community have screwed and turned west into corrupt lala land!

This varies from family to family. Some families have education at the top of their priority list some don't. I would agree with you on one thing that muslims have problem integrating in the western society for various reasons. First of all we don't drink, our girls, even boys, cannot stay out late. Muslim boys do but muslim girls very rarely sleep around; whereas it is no big deal for Indians, hindus and christians, to do all of the above, without any remorse.
 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Woh to aap Unicorn jee se pucho!! Deen bhar Siasat mein Peekar tunn rehta hai :)
They lack in education due to lack of support from their family. The key to success is integration in the western society and avoiding to live in ghettos of people from same country. UK is one of the best example where desi community have screwed and turned west into corrupt lala land!

ok let him come back from his holidays..pata kartay hain key Unicorn uncle kitna kaam kartay hain ghar ka..:P

ok as far as education is concerned, almost all the Pakistani girls I knew in high school did go to college or university...but you are right..they are not as career oriented as they could be...
 

Rehmani

MPA (400+ posts)
سب قصور لڑکی کے ماں باپ کا ہے ، کیوں ایسی جگہ لڑکی دی ، اب پچھتائے کیا ہوت جب چڑیاں چگ گئیں کھیت
 
This varies from family to family. Some families have education at the top of their priority list some don't. I would agree with you on one thing that muslims have problem integrating in the western society for various reasons. First of all we don't drink, our girls, even boys, cannot stay out late. Muslim boys do but muslim girls very rarely sleep around; whereas it is no big deal for Indians, hindus and christians, to do all of the above, without any remorse.


Here comes a male chauvinist comment!! If muslim man can sleep with other then why muslim women should not have right to do whatever she wants.
It is completely fair for some of the rogue Pakistani men to rape, and commit all kinds of crimes against white women in England, norway ?
Integration is not about creating ghettos and enforcing your own rules on locals!!
I m not generalizing but truth is bitter.. Now you are teaching me ethics!! He. He!!
 
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LovelyVirus

Senator (1k+ posts)
The sad thing about Jahaiz is that rarely any side is willing to get rid of this desease of the society. It the boy side insist not to have Jahaiz the girl side is not willing to let go the 'show off' habbit. They must show off otherwise people might say the girl side is kanjoos. This show off culture and the fear of 'zillat from general public' is the main factor we aren't able to get rid of this bemaari. No body is willing to take the bold step!
 

A.Ali.T

Minister (2k+ posts)
ok let him come back from his holidays..pata kartay hain key Unicorn uncle kitna kaam kartay hain ghar ka..:P

ok as far as education is concerned, almost all the Pakistani girls I knew in high school did go to college or university...but you are right..they are not as career oriented as they could be...

I agree with you to some extent, I have many girls in my family who are very career oriented. Even in Canada, some of the girls in my family are in McGill University doing their MBA. It all depends on your family background.
 
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A.Ali.T

Minister (2k+ posts)
Here comes a male chauvinist comment!! If muslim man can sleep with other then why muslim women should not have right to do whatever she wants.
It is completely fair for some of the rogue Pakistani men to rape, and commit all kinds of crimes against white women in England, norway ?
I m not generalizing but truth is bitter.. Now you are teaching me ethics!! He. He!!

Utter nonsense! I am neither condoning nor condemning anything I am merely stating the facts. I am not teaching you anything, I am only telling you the limitations of muslims.
 

shabir khan

Senator (1k+ posts)
Here comes a male chauvinist comment!! If muslim man can sleep with other then why muslim women should not have right to do whatever she wants.
It is completely fair for some of the rogue Pakistani men to rape, and commit all kinds of crimes against white women in England, norway ?
Integration is not about creating ghettos and enforcing your own rules on locals!!
I m not generalizing but truth is bitter.. Now you are teaching me ethics!! He. He!!

But india is now officially known as Rapistan and NOT Hindustan.
 
Utter nonsense! I am neither condoning nor condemning anything I am merely stating the facts. I am not teaching you anything, I am only telling you the limitations of muslims.

Did you mean theoretical muslims or real muslims :)

The drama and the love for god is all hogwash ! Majority of people who follow Islam or any-other religion are corrupt !

So no need to talk in theoretical terms like those anchors and politicians!
 

A.Ali.T

Minister (2k+ posts)
Did you mean theoretical muslims or real muslims :)

The drama and the love for god is all hogwash ! Majority of people who follow Islam or any-other religion are corrupt !

So no need to talk in theoretical terms like those anchors and politicians!

When people start talking non sense, that's where I split.
 

aamir_uetn

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
سب قصور لڑکی کے ماں باپ کا ہے ، کیوں ایسی جگہ لڑکی دی ، اب پچھتائے کیا ہوت جب چڑیاں چگ گئیں کھیت
جیسے کہ ماں باپ جانتے تھے کہ بیٹی کے ساتھ یہ ہو گا
 

Pakistaniii

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
and how much men cook and clean after marriage? (bigsmile)....the problem is not men their families in most scenarios....now if the boy is living alone, situation tends to be much better...

Pakistani benglai girls are lacking in what exactly: education or willingness to contribute to house work?

There are good and bad people everywhere, girls raised in western countries are very hard working they don't want be be burden on their husbands, rather they want to share the burden of raising the family. The problem is many times boys raised in India and Pakistan don't want to share the burden of household chores. That is when the problem arises.
wooo wooo,,, now I got to know how most of the members got expert or advanced status here (bigsmile)
A.Ali.T ,,I disagree that girls in west are more hard working than sub-continent,I am not sure what your parameters are to look at hard work,but in my opinion they are same as far as competence and hard work is concerned ,,
the only difference is in Cultural,environmental and social or domestic needs
 
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