Punjabi film 'Sadda Haq', based on the Khalistan movement, banned in Delhi and Haryana: Incredible I

[modern.fakir]

:lol::lol: I must appreciate your sense of lively comments that start of your lines. They indeed add indian "spice' to the otherwise usual diatribe. Muslims have never had any reason to be scared of any hindu dominion because hinduism was never one monolithic religion. It does not have one god but dieties.. Their are several castes and subcastes and the higher caste doesnt want anything to do with the lower one. Their are so many divisions that i would have to write a book on it.(bigsmile)

This was the reason the 550 states of the subcontinent never made proper historical contributions until the Mughals came along. EVen today you use the Taj Mahal as a symbol of recognition BUT badmouth their remnants in Pakistanis....This is classical Hypocrisy (bigsmile)

Ale ale chote bache. Don't get so excited. When it happens then you come and tell me. And please stop your hypocrisy if you want to progress. Reality check. Some muslims were **** scared of hindu dominion, so they thought of splitting up. Rather strange considering that muslims ruled india for 1000 years no?

 

[chandbibi]

If yours was a land created for religion, why did lal masjid happen in the first place? Khalistan movement resulted in the golden temple episode not the other way round. You are twisting the facts. Anybody can get up and start a movement. Are we running some banana republic? Do you think the Indian state is a pushover? Sikhs became minorities in Pakistan. Have some shame when you say this. You threw them out of their motherland for your fear of hindu dominion. History will never forgive you for this. Sikhs have a state in India, and they live all over the country, very happily and with no tag of mohajir. If you support khalistan then lets go back in history and set the record straight for them.( enough of hypocrisy here too) Pakistan was not created to become a weather cock for India. We were meant to live together side by side as independent countries without any enmity. By all means think you are better, but when the world says so i will believe you.

SO one thing is clear that Lal Masjid has NO analogy with the Golden Temple Massacre where the INdian Army killed its own people.

NOw, the question is not what the history of sikhs is or isnt but rather why was their temple desecrated by the Indian army which is a cause for this resentment and hence the Khalistan Movement :)

The Pakistani sikhs have not suffered any such discrimination in Pakistan and they are free to live and practice their religion as they please because they know that Pakistan being an Islamic state will protect their religion as a tenet of Faith. It was secular India which attacked the Golden Temple NOT an Islamic Pakistan :). You keep on forgetting this very valid point.

If Pakistan's result is Unknown then why does India cry ISI everytime the wind changes direction ?? (bigsmile). Clearly, it is their wish to see Pakistan as an unknown entity which hasnt materialized as yet, despite their best attempts.

True, at the moment because of the involvement of multiple foreign powers in afghanistan over the last several years we've had issues internally BUT those times are now slowly moving BEHIND US (bigsmile)

Pakistan was derailed after Jinnah BUT now the new breed of Pakistanis with a Powerfull Army is going to take it to the next level. 1971 was not the burial of Jinnah's Pakistan BUT rather an attack on a foreign nation BY their neighbour after massive infiltration in times of our weakness. NO worries :), Pakistanis and their ancestors have ruled empires for centuries and know pretty well how to give a befitting response to such antics (bigsmile)

Having said all this, Pakistan is still way better than being coined in the same sense with a state where the army attacked a precious insitution of religion yet they fail to quell rapes in every street corner of their nation. I can go on and on ...but i think you get the point :)

 

[mithyaa]

:lol::lol: I must appreciate your sense of lively comments that start of your lines. They indeed add indian "spice' to the otherwise usual diatribe. Muslims have never had any reason to be scared of any hindu dominion because hinduism was never one monolithic religion. It does not have one god but dieties.. Their are several castes and subcastes and the higher caste doesnt want anything to do with the lower one. Their are so many divisions that i would have to write a book on it.(bigsmile)

This was the reason the 550 states of the subcontinent never made proper historical contributions until the Mughals came along. EVen today you use the Taj Mahal as a symbol of recognition BUT badmouth their remnants in Pakistanis....This is classical Hypocrisy (bigsmile)

First of all descendants of the Mughal rulers lives in the Indian bengal just like the descendants of Jinnah live in Mumbai and not Pakistan. Secondly, if you read history books in India, Akbar is regarded as one of the great kings, and rightly so, while a few others are presented as what they were.

 

[modern.fakir]

Chandbibi, please educate yourself on the facts:)...Lal Masjid movement was a speerhead movement to making Pakistan an Islamic State according to the clerics involved by implementing sharia. They were not demanding a seperate State as is with the Khalistan movement [hilar][hilar]

Hence these two dont jive.

Sikhs might have a state BUT their rights were violated when the STATE ARMY desecrated their main religious institution. Thats the problem. Thats the reason they are demanding Khalistan from India and a perhaps even a peacefull union with Pakistan (bigsmile)...

secondly, people of a country where maharashtrians demand that everyone speak marathi or leave the state should not be commenting on who gets called what in Pakistan. They themselves have bigger issues atleast we are all united on our language "Urdu" :lol:

I agree on this point that the world can be a judge for which country is better ..although we are not branded as the rape capital of the world :)

If yours was a land created for religion, why did lal masjid happen in the first place? Khalistan movement resulted in the golden temple episode not the other way round. You are twisting the facts. Anybody can get up and start a movement. Are we running some banana republic? Do you think the Indian state is a pushover? Sikhs became minorities in Pakistan. Have some shame when you say this. You threw them out of their motherland for your fear of hindu dominion. History will never forgive you for this. Sikhs have a state in India, and they live all over the country, very happily and with no tag of mohajir. If you support khalistan then lets go back in history and set the record straight for them.( enough of hypocrisy here too) Pakistan was not created to become a weather cock for India. We were meant to live together side by side as independent countries without any enmity. By all means think you are better, but when the world says so i will believe you.

 

[modern.fakir]

Dude, is it not a fact that a mass migration took place from all across India to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan during partition ? ...Lahore was a capital for mughal architecture and that is in Pakistan and so are several other cities.

Its true that India and bangladesh has remnants of Mughals and their is no denying that as the history prior to Partition was ONe. BUT Mughals were Islamic rulers who implemented shariah and Pakistan is the successor state which inherited the ISlamic ideology as india chose to go secular. It is in this context that i refer to Pakistanis being the successors..:)

First of all descendants of the Mughal rulers lives in the Indian bengal just like the descendants of Jinnah live in Mumbai and not Pakistan. Secondly, if you read history books in India, Akbar is regarded as one of the great kings, and rightly so, while a few others are presented as what they were.

 

[mithyaa]

Dude, is it not a fact that a mass migration took place from all across India to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan during partition ? ...Lahore was a capital for mughal architecture and that is in Pakistan and so are several other cities.

Its true that India and bangladesh has remnants of Mughals and their is no denying that as the history prior to Partition was ONe. BUT Mughals were Islamic rulers who implemented shariah and Pakistan is the successor state which inherited the ISlamic ideology as india chose to go secular. It is in this context that i refer to Pakistanis being the successors..:)

Akbar was more secular than Islamic, actually all the rulers before Aurangzeb were secular and Aurangzeb was the ruler during whose reign all the rebellions began and the downfall of mughal empire began.
Enjoy your romance with being a successor of aurangzeb

 

[modern.fakir]

You make it sound like as if Akbar was the founder of the Mughal Empire. Then i wonder who Babar was (bigsmile)...The name of the Mughal State was " Mughlia Sultanate" and the state religion was Islam:lol:

only 60 years of Gaurav Gatha education will false misconceptions has resulted in soo many flaws in a historical context of your own History [hilar][hilar]

Akbar was more secular than Islamic, actually all the rulers before Aurangzeb were secular and Aurangzeb was the ruler during whose reign all the rebellions began and the downfall of mughal empire began.
Enjoy your romance with being a successor of aurangzeb

 

[mithyaa]

You make it sound like as if Akbar was the founder of the Mughal Empire. Then i wonder who Babar was (bigsmile)...The name of the Mughal State was " Mughlia Sultanate" and the state religion was Islam:lol:

only 60 years of Gaurav Gatha education will false misconceptions has resulted in soo many flaws in a historical context of your own History [hilar][hilar]

And your history of knowledge is just limited to the fact that mughals were muslims. Akbar was the longest reigning Mughal. The empire reached it's prime stability during Akbar's time. Humayun almost lost the empire to Sher Shah Suri, it was Akbar who revived it. Get some history lessons, something that is not just limited to crying islam islam.

 

[chandbibi]

Then why did you split up? Hormonal imbalance? [hilar]
What you had to do with Taj Mahal? It is in Agra. Shah Jahan was not punjabi.[hilar]

:lol::lol: I must appreciate your sense of lively comments that start of your lines. They indeed add indian "spice' to the otherwise usual diatribe. Muslims have never had any reason to be scared of any hindu dominion because hinduism was never one monolithic religion. It does not have one god but dieties.. Their are several castes and subcastes and the higher caste doesnt want anything to do with the lower one. Their are so many divisions that i would have to write a book on it.(bigsmile)

This was the reason the 550 states of the subcontinent never made proper historical contributions until the Mughals came along. EVen today you use the Taj Mahal as a symbol of recognition BUT badmouth their remnants in Pakistanis....This is classical Hypocrisy (bigsmile)

 

[chandbibi]

Who told you this? All of this is wrong. Nobody is asked to leave any state. State conducts its business in the regional language. We are a union of linguistic states. And thank god we respect that. Otherwise we would have had a bangladesh like situation on hand. Ya ya. Peaceful union with Pakistan. I had heard that program on raval tv in punjabi, about how the first partition of india resulted in punjab being split up, and how the formation of states from pakistani punjab will result in a breakup of pakistan. So that guy was actually threatening that they might unite punjab with India. Lamenting about how punjabis are ashamed to speak in punjabi. I think you get the drift. When the muslim punjabi feels cheated, what do you have to offer to the sikh punjabi?
If pakistan was created as a religious state, why some clerics have to furtively try to implement sharia. Its been 65 years since the birth of Pakistan. Isn't it about time you decided whether you are a theocracy or a democracy or a dictatorship?

Chandbibi, please educate yourself on the facts:)...Lal Masjid movement was a speerhead movement to making Pakistan an Islamic State according to the clerics involved by implementing sharia. They were not demanding a seperate State as is with the Khalistan movement [hilar][hilar]

Hence these two dont jive.

Sikhs might have a state BUT their rights were violated when the STATE ARMY desecrated their main religious institution. Thats the problem. Thats the reason they are demanding Khalistan from India and a perhaps even a peacefull union with Pakistan (bigsmile)...

secondly, people of a country where maharashtrians demand that everyone speak marathi or leave the state should not be commenting on who gets called what in Pakistan. They themselves have bigger issues atleast we are all united on our language "Urdu" :lol:

I agree on this point that the world can be a judge for which country is better ..although we are not branded as the rape capital of the world :)

 

[ASQR1]

Do you think that somebody will not be killed, if he was not being protected? Indira Gandhi hung on to Sikhs bodyguards. Do you think she did not anticipate that? The biggest massacre of Sikhs has happened in Pakistan. How do you conveniently forget that? You better be ready to hand over lahore, because if khalistan happens, their capital will be lahore. Pakistan is an experiment, whose result is unknown. If religion was enough to run a state, why would this state made in the name of religion be burning up? Sikhs have a history which has more to do with Pakistan, than with India. Supporting the wrong causes, has turned everybody against you. Jinnah's pakistan died in 1971. What is left now is a state struggling with the burden of theocracy v/s democracy. Who will live in this Khalistan? Canadian Sikhs? Pakistani Sikhs? The others are very prosperous and spread all over India. Punjab is already a sikh state. What do they stand to gain?

You are making tall and false claims that cannot be ignored, your claim Sikh and Pakistani Punjabis fought, Sikhs fought Hindu as well. it was Hindu agenda to falsely present Muslims as Sikhs enemies, and that is gone long time ago,

Your post is full of innuendos to rise the passions of Sikhs, it will not work as Sikhs know the truth now and will follow this truth and you will now have to bear the consequences of trickery and treachery, This is one of the reason Pakistan had to become and separated from you to expose you and your mentality.

you again play tricks by naming Lahore as one of their city, this is a talk by traitor Sikhs who pull Hindu lines because they were planted by you. so off your high horse and see the light or else it may bite you where it hurts the most.

 

[ASQR1]

Who told you this? All of this is wrong. Nobody is asked to leave any state. State conducts its business in the regional language. We are a union of linguistic states. And thank god we respect that. Otherwise we would have had a bangladesh like situation on hand. Ya ya. Peaceful union with Pakistan. I had heard that program on raval tv in punjabi, about how the first partition of india resulted in punjab being split up, and how the formation of states from pakistani punjab will result in a breakup of pakistan. So that guy was actually threatening that they might unite punjab with India. Lamenting about how punjabis are ashamed to speak in punjabi. I think you get the drift. When the muslim punjabi feels cheated, what do you have to offer to the sikh punjabi?
If pakistan was created as a religious state, why some clerics have to furtively try to implement sharia. Its been 65 years since the birth of Pakistan. Isn't it about time you decided whether you are a theocracy or a democracy or a dictatorship?

it is none of your business as to why sharia has not been implemented, because you have no clue about Pakistani and its fiber and what real Islam is, so do not debate about Religion that you have no knowledge.

 

[chandbibi]

I am not debating about religion. It was asked in response to the poster's explanation about why lal masjid incident happened.

it is none of your business as to why sharia has not been implemented, because you have no clue about Pakistani and its fiber and what real Islam is, so do not debate about Religion that you have no knowledge.

 

[chandbibi]

My post is not required. Sikhs know their history well. Pakistan has no different mentality from india. Fact of the matter is sikhs had to flee to india and make their homes across the border. Why this happened is for you to analyse.

You are making tall and false claims that cannot be ignored, your claim Sikh and Pakistani Punjabis fought, Sikhs fought Hindu as well. it was Hindu agenda to falsely present Muslims as Sikhs enemies, and that is gone long time ago,

Your post is full of innuendos to rise the passions of Sikhs, it will not work as Sikhs know the truth now and will follow this truth and you will now have to bear the consequences of trickery and treachery, This is one of the reason Pakistan had to become and separated from you to expose you and your mentality.

you again play tricks by naming Lahore as one of their city, this is a talk by traitor Sikhs who pull Hindu lines because they were planted by you. so off your high horse and see the light or else it may bite you where it hurts the most.

 

[alimohsan52]

Reaction to the movie in US, it is a major hit!

 

[modern.fakir]

Chandbibi, here is a new clip where maharashtrians are asking local workers to either learn to speak Marathi or else leave for the state they came from :)

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/now-mns-distributes-marathi-alphabet-books-to-taxi-drivers/571505

YOu tell me, how communal is this ?...and atleast in Pakistan we are not distributing punjabi or sindhi or balocho pamphlets in a bid to shuv it down there throats...:)

History holds many massacres and if we start probing that then boundaries will start to change and may not necessarily be in the interest of modern day india (bigsmile)

If sikhs create a Khalistan in INdia and they want to join with their brethren in India then they can under the ambit of a united Punjab with Pakistan ...we have no issues (bigsmile)...We are open hearted ...they want to come to Lahore sure ...we will go to Amritsar and Harayana:lol::lol:...actually we will fully back the sikhs to do that if that is what they want. Remember our call is that of LOVE ...Pakistan is all about LOve and respect :)...Thats what Jinnah Ra and Allama Iqbal Ra has taught us.

NOw Pakistan after creation as an Islamic state has been ruled by a secular government. SO naturally being a new state it went through evolution towards an ISlamic government. BUt before that the generation which held the british democracy as supreme has to decay and pass out, which is what you see if happening right now. After this now you will see the rise of the true Islamic Governance which will be based on True LOVE of ISlam, just like our ancestors..:)

Now we wont let any misguided movements from hijacking this ...BUT you people must also learn to give freedom to the naxals, khalistanis, assamese, tamil naads ...so that they can live in peace and love too:)

Who told you this? All of this is wrong. Nobody is asked to leave any state. State conducts its business in the regional language. We are a union of linguistic states. And thank god we respect that. Otherwise we would have had a bangladesh like situation on hand. Ya ya. Peaceful union with Pakistan. I had heard that program on raval tv in punjabi, about how the first partition of india resulted in punjab being split up, and how the formation of states from pakistani punjab will result in a breakup of pakistan. So that guy was actually threatening that they might unite punjab with India. Lamenting about how punjabis are ashamed to speak in punjabi. I think you get the drift. When the muslim punjabi feels cheated, what do you have to offer to the sikh punjabi?
If pakistan was created as a religious state, why some clerics have to furtively try to implement sharia. Its been 65 years since the birth of Pakistan. Isn't it about time you decided whether you are a theocracy or a democracy or a dictatorship?

 

[modern.fakir]

Why do you Hate Muslims ?? :)...Mughals were Muslims and this is a known fact ...if a pakistani reiterates it then its a problem with the secular hindu ...why ??(bigsmile)...SO tell me if you people are either secular or Hindu then why this hypocrisy of claiming the glory of Muslims ??..Did you set up an Islamic state ??[hilar][hilar]

You didnt !...so why even bother !...Every Mughal emperor did a lot of good things and made some mistakes as well. Overall the mughals were the best era in INdian history where it prospered the most economically and socially.

You can Hate but learn to love ...that is the Pakistani Way (bigsmile)

And your history of knowledge is just limited to the fact that mughals were muslims. Akbar was the longest reigning Mughal. The empire reached it's prime stability during Akbar's time. Humayun almost lost the empire to Sher Shah Suri, it was Akbar who revived it. Get some history lessons, something that is not just limited to crying islam islam.

 

[alimohsan52]

Dude, this is nothing. Have you ever attended Dhadi performing in Jatt Gurdawaras glorifying their wars???

Sadda Haq tickets sold out in cinemas

 

[ASQR1]

My post is not required. Sikhs know their history well. Pakistan has no different mentality from india. Fact of the matter is sikhs had to flee to india and make their homes across the border. Why this happened is for you to analyse.

Again u r talking like a Hindu extrermist, they flee becuase Hindu use them to attasck Muslism carvans, using sikhs passions and decency as they were fed nonsense, but that is gone, now Sikhs are aware of facts as they know the truth, so lay off mentioning things thast happened 65 or more years ago, your acs of desperation to rile Sikhs emotions against Muslis will not work.

Yours deductions about all is wrong about lall masjid, about Sikhs passions and about Lahore have proved wrong in many of the above posts, so lay off if not than I guess a ban may be in order to save you from your weird deductions.

 

[desicad]

Again u r talking like a Hindu extrermist, they flee becuase Hindu use them to attasck Muslism carvans, using sikhs passions and decency as they were fed nonsense, but that is gone, now Sikhs are aware of facts as they know the truth, so lay off mentioning things thast happened 65 or more years ago, your acs of desperation to rile Sikhs emotions against Muslis will not work.

Yours deductions about all is wrong about lall masjid, about Sikhs passions and about Lahore have proved wrong in many of the above posts, so lay off if not than I guess a ban may be in order to save you from your weird deductions.

:lol::lol:.....not able to handle the truth and clearly rattled that his false propaganda won't work........and threatening with a ban.......[hilar]