Is wishing Merry Christmas forbidden (HARAM) in Islam? Dr Zakir Naik

brilTek

Senator (1k+ posts)


Whether you agree with some scholar or not, that's entirely up to you.

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Don't paint every mosque/imam with same brush. My mosque in London is totally purchased with Muslims donations and Imams are also paid by Muslims donations. The council offered to shift the mosque to some other place and they were offering some grant in support as well, but Muslims completely refused it.

I'm sure there are many more who have not taken a singly penny from UK government.


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Believer12

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Whether you agree with some scholar or not, that's entirely up to you.

BUT

Don't paint every mosque/imam with same brush. My mosque in London is totally purchased with Muslims donations and Imams are also paid by Muslims donations. The council offered to shift the mosque to some other place and they were offering some grant in support as well, but Muslims completely refused it.

I'm sure there are many more who have not taken a singly penny from UK government.


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brilTek

everybody claims that but that is not true and every mosque have grant yearely. Every member of mosque is registered and they recieve this grant according to their numbers, imean more members in a mosque are registered more grant they recieve. But mosque management will never tell you about this. No single mosque is free of grant in UK.to shift mosque is another issue and if council has to shift than they have to pay that is done.
 
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brilTek

Senator (1k+ posts)
everybody claims that but that is not true and every mosque have grant yearely. Every member of mosque is registered and they recieve this grant according to their numbers, imean more members in a mosque are registered more grant they recieve. But mosque management will never tell you about this. No single mosque is free of grant in UK.to shift mosque is another issue and if council has to shift than they have to pay that is done.

I don't know the source of your information, but least to say, its incorrect.

Particularly, the funding is calculated on number of members, seems quite unrealistic to me.

If I believe in your account, this must be published in some newspapers, but this has never happened. Try Google. Share your results as well, as I didn't try it.

People here in UK are boycotting Starbucks, and they will never left this Mosque Funding topic left alone, if happened to be true.



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Believer12

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I don't know the source of your information, but least to say, its incorrect.

Particularly, the funding is calculated on number of members, seems quite unrealistic to me.

If I believe in your account, this must be published in some newspapers, but this has never happened. Try Google. Share your results as well, as I didn't try it.

People here in UK are boycotting Starbucks, and they will never left this Mosque Funding topic left alone, if happened to be true.



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brilTek

once it was business in UK to register a mosque and get benefits. annual grant and visas for two or three people from Pakistan.

Now its hard to reegister a mosque there. I knew to maintain a building and payment of utility bills and lot more other expenditures need money.
No doubt regular members paid chanda and there is mosque committee who controls the funding. I have been inside these things and you will be surprised how ulma has been struggling for the registeration of members by writing their ID numbers.
Anyhow I knew if your mosque do not accept this grant than its only mosque in the Europe otherwise people are struggling to increase the members of their mosque.
 

FlyHigh

Senator (1k+ posts)
But if you ask Dr Naik about Kashmir, he will beat around the bush and will never answer it because he knows better;)

But if you wish someone Merry Christmas, all hell is going to break lose
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
کرسمس پر مبارکباد دینا اور اسکی تقریبات میں شرکت کرنا ایسے ہی حرام ہے جیسے
شراب، زنا، جوے اور ناچ گانے کی محفل پر کسی کو مبارکباد دینا یا شرکت کرنا

جس طرح ان گناہ کی محفلوں میں شرکت سے انکار اور دعوت دینے والے کی اصلاح ضروری ہے اور قطعا بد اخلاقی نہیں بلکہ ہمدردی ہے
اسی طرح کرسمس تقریب میں شرکت نا کرنا اور دعوت دینے والے کی اصلاح کرنا ضروری ہے اور عین اخلاق ہے

یاد رکھے کرسمس کا تعلق عیسائی عقائد عبادت اور نظریہ سے ہے جو شرک اور کفر پر مبنی ہے
اس لئے ان تقریبات کا گناہ شراب زنا اور جوا کی محافل سے زیادہ ہے

 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
deen yeh hai keh log duniya main islam yani aman ko phelaayen. isi ko quran main islam ka ghalba kaha gayaa hai. agar log aman se rehene ko pasand karen ge aur is ke liye apna sab kuchh qurban kar den ge to insianiay bahot hi taizi se taraqi kare gi kyunkeh miljul kar kam karne se kaam jaldi ho jaa jaata.

quran ke mutaabiq insaan is liye peda kiya gayaa hai to woh duniya ki taskheer kare. yeh taskheere kaainaat insaanu ke aapas main aik doosre ki taangen khainchne se nahin ho gi.

yah tamaam behuda ladayee jhagde mullah ne aapas main peda kiye hen jin ki waja se insaaniyat ko inhayee nuqsaan pohnch rahaa hai. in rukaawatun ko insaani taraqi ki rah se hataana ho ga. ajeeb baat hai log quran par ghoro fikar karne ko tayaar hi nahin hen jis ne insaan ko bahot hi buland maqaasid diye hen aur log apas main chhoti chhoti baatun par ulajh kar reh gaye hen.

apne khudayee teh shuda maqaasid ko samjho yani duniya main amno salaamti peda karo aur phir mil kar kaainaat ko musakhar karo insaniyat ke liye is baat main bahot se faaide chhupe hen in ko haasil karo.

khayalaat ki bulandi hi insaan ko bulandiyun par le jaa sakti hai.

mullah log to past khayalaat ke malik hen in logoon ke peechhe aankhen band kar ke chalo ge to apni zindagiyan jahanum banaa lo ge balkeh bahot soon ki ab tak ban bhi chuki hen.

in logoon ko to pata hi nahin hai shirk kiya hota hai warna kia yeh log islami sultanat qaaim na karte? haathi ke khaane ke daant aur aur dikhaane ke daant aur waali baat hai.

zaroorat hai log sir syed aur iqbal jaise logoon ki tarah quran par ghoro fikar karen ta keh insaani soch aage badh sake aur jab soch aage badhe gi to qadam aage badhne ka imkaan hai. isi se yeh mojooda jamood toot sakta hai jis main ummat mehboos hai.


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اداس ساحل

MPA (400+ posts)
پھر سے وہی طالبان یا طالبان آئزیشن۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔کرسمس ہو یا عید، جب معاشرے میں رہنے والے افراد ایک دوسروں کے عقائد کی عزت کرنا ایک معزز شہری کا فرض اوّلین ہے۔ اگر عیسائی عید کے موقع پر یہ سوچے کہ مسلمانوں کو "عید مبارک" کہنا حرام ہے تو کیسا لگے گا؟؟؟ انسان خوشیوں اور غمیوں کے گھیراؤ میں ہوتا ہے۔ معاشرے میں دکھ سکھ بانٹے جاتے ہیں۔ جو بھی لوگ ان سوچوں کو پھیلاتے ہیں ، وہ یقینی طور پر شدّت پسند ہیں۔ اس چیز سے اجتناب کرنا چاہیے اور طالبان جیسی سوچوں سے اپنے معاشرے کو پاک رکھنا چاہیے
 

Pakistani Resident

Senator (1k+ posts)
Saying Merry Christmas To Your Christian Friends Is Biggest Kufr And Blasphemy :- Dr Zakir Naik

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Dr Zakir Naik Has Many Videos That Congratulating Christmas Is Equal To Abusing ALLAAH......




I Am Posting One Of Such Videos Of Dr Zakir Naik[h.a]..



Congratulating Christmas For Building Relations With Christian Friends Is Also Haraam And Kufr.....


If Someone's Intentions Is Not Blasphemy, That Person Is Still Committing Blasphemy If he/she Knows About Reality Of Christmas..


If Some Muslim Congratulates Christian Friends By The Intention Of Celebrating Commercial Festival, Then That Muslim Is Still Committing Blasphemy:- Dr Zakir Naik....


The Logic Of Celebrating Christmas Is That Eesaa[a.s] Is Begotten Son Of GOD,




If Someone Knows About This Reality Of Christmas, But Still he/she Congratulates his/her Christian Friends Then It Is Blasphemy Even If That Muslim Has No Such Intention.....


In One Video Dr Zakir Naik said That In Qur'aan It Is Written That The Biggest Abuse That Can Be Ever Given To ALLAAH Is Saying That ALLAAH Has Begotten Son i.e:- Saying Merry Christmas..


Saying Merry Christmas Is Equal To Abusing ALLAAH...











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shassan655

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Saying Merry Christmas To Your Christian Friends Is Biggest Kufr And Blasphemy :- Dr Zakir Naik

I DONT BELIEVE THIS AT ALL. At my work when ever it's Ramthan...my Manager and co-worker's are always making sure they don't eat infront of me and respect my month of Fasting. Whenever there is Eid ..everybody comes and congratulates me and my Manager always tells me to take a day off so I could enjoy the day with my family. All these people are Christians...if they are so kind to me even though they don't believe in Ramadhan and Eid and always there to accommodate me...then what is wrong if I am nice to them and Congradulate them on their Christmas. We are getting so Narrow minded in our religion that it's amazing.

Islam is beautiful with Allah the most merciful. But these Scholar's are making this Religion as if it's for Cave People. What a Shame.
 

Pakistani Resident

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Saying Merry Christmas To Your Christian Friends Is Biggest Kufr And Blasphemy :- Dr Zakir Naik

I DONT BELIEVE THIS AT ALL. At my work when ever it's Ramthan...my Manager and co-worker's are always making sure they don't eat infront of me and respect my month of Fasting. Whenever there is Eid ..everybody comes and congratulates me and my Manager always tells me to take a day off so I could enjoy the day with my family. All these people are Christians...if they are so kind to me even though they don't believe in Ramadhan and Eid and always there to accommodate me...then what is wrong if I am nice to them and Congradulate them on their Christmas. We are getting so Narrow minded in our religion that it's amazing.

Islam is beautiful with Allah the most merciful. But these Scholar's are making this Religion as if it's for Cave People. What a Shame.




They Congratulate Me On Eid And Ramdhan

So I Should Also Congratulate Them On Christmas...



This Sort Of Incident Also Happened In Time Of Nabi
pbuh



Kuffaar Came To Nabi
pbuh That We Should Make A Compromise...


One Year We Will Follow Your Religion...
One Year You Should Follow Our Religion...



Then Probably The Surah-al-Kaafiroon Was Revealed Which Includes The Verse """"Lakum Deenukum Waliya Deen"""""..

To Your Your Religion
To Me My Religion...





So If Christians Tomorrow Start Fasting In Ramdhan To Respect Muslim Sentiments..

Then Will You Start Going To Church To Respect Their Sentiments.....




Read Surah-al-Kaafirun Of Qur'aan....



If Hindus Start Coming To Mosques To Develop Good Relationship With Muslisms,

Then You Will Also Start Worshipping Idols To Develop Good Relationship With Hindus...





As For Saying Commercial And Business,

Then It Is Same As Saying,



I Do Not Worship Idols, But I Own A Shop Of Idols For Business Purposes And I Sell Idols To Show My Love For Hindus But I Do Not Worship Idols...




Celebrating Christmas For Business Purposes Is Also Kufr...
 
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Pakistani Resident

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Saying Merry Christmas To Your Christian Friends Is Biggest Kufr And Blasphemy :- Dr Zakir Naik

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Kuffaar Came To Nabi
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That We Should Make A Compromise...


One Year We Will Follow Your Religion...
One Year You Should Follow Our Religion...



Then Probably The Surah-al-Kaafiroon Was Revealed










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shassan655

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Saying Merry Christmas To Your Christian Friends Is Biggest Kufr And Blasphemy :- Dr Zakir Naik

They Congratulate Me On Eid And Ramdhan

So I Should Also Congratulate Them On Christmas...



This Sort Of Incident Also Happened In Time



Kuffaar Came To Nabi That We Should Make A Compromise...


One Year We Will Follow Your Religion...
One Year You Should Follow Our Religion...



Then Probably The Surah-al-Kaafiroon Was Revealed Which Includes The Verse Lakum Deenukum Waliya Deen..

To Your Your Religion
To Me My Religion...





So If Christians Tomorrow Start Fasting In Ramdhan To Respect Muslim Sentiments..

Then Will You Start Going To Church To Respect Their Sentiments.....




Read Surah-al-Kaafirun Of Qur'aan....



You are completely misunderstanding the issue. No Christian in the right mind would do Ramadhan Fasting and No Muslim would ever believe that Hazrat Eisa is the Son of God. The Basic Principle of Islam would be lost if you believe Jesus is the Son of God.

So good luck with your Cave mentality and making Islam a very narrow minded religion. Islam is beyond this. We muslims are becoming Rigid in our actions.
 

jason

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Saying Merry Christmas To Your Christian Friends Is Biggest Kufr And Blasphemy :- Dr Zakir Naik

انکی مشابہت اختیار کرنے سے منا کیا گیا ہے لیکن انسے اچھے تعلقات رکھنا اور انسے خوشی سے پیش آنے کو منا نہیں کیا گیا
 

FlyHigh

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Saying Merry Christmas To Your Christian Friends Is Biggest Kufr And Blasphemy :- Dr Zakir Naik

Once our religious leaders become famous, they lose their common sense.
 

ali-raj

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Saying Merry Christmas To Your Christian Friends Is Biggest Kufr And Blasphemy :- Dr Zakir Naik

Do take ka molvi. Hate monger and cluless about religion.

Jitney logon ko yeh rahey rast pey laye hai, ap apni puri takat laga kar bhi nahin la saktey.

Rahi baat us key takay key honey ki. Try karlain, one on one session, ap ko uski aur apni qeemat pata chal jaye gee.
 

ali-raj

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Saying Merry Christmas To Your Christian Friends Is Biggest Kufr And Blasphemy :- Dr Zakir Naik

Christmas is birthday of the christ as per christians. And they think of him as Gods son.
 

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