Translations of quran

khalid100

Minister (2k+ posts)
I agree to it. But who and how should tell the fanatics who bitterly oppose such an
approach by immediately starting:
i) to emphasise the role of Messenger,
ii) to make a vehement point that unless you read all Hadiths, Commentaries, Tafsirs,
Rawayat, and then stick to some Moulvi of the present age, how you dare to think of Quran.
Once someone has the intention, effort and persistence, the Noor-ul-Huda automatically
comes to your heart and in understanding. Then goodbye to all man made theories, sects,
differences, past personalities worshiping, peers, faqirs etc etc. etc. Quran pours into the
heart of its followers the Noor of Wahidniyat of Allah, then the reader does not call anyone,
does not pray to anyone, does not make any dua through anyone, EXCEPT DIRECTLY TOWARDS ALLAH, and that is not acceptable to many.

One step at a time :)
1st try it ourself then worry about another person or sect (if we have to)
If I learn Quran myself and teach my family/kids I think thats the best thing in the world I have done. My 1st responsibility is myself and my immediate family.

چراغ سے چراغ جلے گا ميرے بھائ

 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Quran has been translated by immense people since it revelation and still the process is going on. The question is that some moulvi's are bitter against the translations. Should these translations should be discarded altogether and then what is the way to understand Quran. Specially when Quran is in Arabic Language and this language is not the mother language of all mankind. The Quran is for all mankind and this mankind should do what, for example:

a) Only read the Quran for the sake of reading in "rote concept" and "swab theory"
b) Only listen in a melodious voices and move the head like snake moves in front of Bean
and bansari;
c) Only put it high in a niche a the upper part of outer door and should come and go
under it and think that it will save from all ills.

d) Only marry the unfortunate girls with it (Believe me in Pakistan, in villages there is t tendency to attribute that lady who could not marry that she is married to Quran)

e) Only read it when somebody died and attribute the finishing sawab to the deceased; that he will get ten rewards for every word read albeit he used to be different people in his life time.

f) Force the people to first read millions type of other books/material/tajwaheed/tafsirs/taweels and they should offer garlands and gifts to moulvis before touching Quran;

g) Closed the eyes and accept what had been written by others and accept that as final words.

So what is the best way to understand Quran WITHOUT TRANSLATIONS. Let the worthy
commentators should give their input how best the Quran should be understood, if it is
needed to be understood at all. Is there any contributions of 'Translations" or those are just for the shake of it?
Thanks.

Best way is the way of sahaba karam r.a and the worst is that of abu jehl.
Quran se vohi hidayat pa sakta he jo Hzur s.a.w ka gustakh na ho chahey usey alif bey b na atee ho ore usey kabi hidyat naseeb nhi hosakti jo Nabi kareem s.a.w ka gustaakh ho chahey vo arabi ka ustaad hi kion na ho.

Agar Quran se hidayat chahey to pehley Nabi ka ihteraam dil me paida karo.
 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
If that is the case then what is the difference in going to an Aalim and getting his version of translation or reading another translation/tafseer.
Beauty of Quran is that if you want to learn it as a layman, it will guide you. If you want to read it as a scholar it will guide you. If you want to read it as a student it will guide you.
All you need is sincere intention and effort.
What church did was similar kind of thing. It was not allowed to read the bible for ordinary people. It was only clergy or similar elites of the church who were allowed to go near the bible. Hence the religious mafia were free to interpret bible in whatever way they wanted.
Same is the situation we are facing. We are not encouraged to learn Arabic to understand it and only encouraged to read Quran on certain occasions, mostly if someone is dead. What a shame that we don't read/act on Quran when we are alive and read it when someone is dead.
Are we not disgracing the word of God in this manner?
Anyway coming to the main topic, no doubt teachers are important but if you make a sincere effort Quran is easy to understand.

Also thanx for posting this interesting topic.

As far as basics are concerned its very clear, if you are sincere you get what you need.

But the problem arises where there are different versions and explanations.

I think Allah knew everyone who would accept Islam would not be arab.

Question arises Is it only for arabs ?????????? If arabic is so important in understanding it.

AAlims who say that tafseers are important they say because they know that without tafseers and hadyts some people can misguide you with their version.
 

khalid100

Minister (2k+ posts)
As far as basics are concerned its very clear, if you are sincere you get what you need.
But the problem arises where there are different versions and explanations.
I think Allah knew everyone who would accept Islam would not be arab.
Question arises Is it only for arabs ?????????? If arabic is so important in understanding it.
AAlims who say that tafseers are important they say because they know that without tafseers and hadyts some people can misguide you with their version.

We do our best to learn other languages for any non-religious purposes. But when it comes to understanding the language Quran was written in, we don't show the same interest.
BTW many Arabs don't understand Quran as it is written in classic Arabic (Fussah). So just knowing day to day Arabic is not enough for understanding Quran.
And to avoid mis-guidance from Ulema it is important that you need to know as what you are being taught.
And for those who claim to be close to the Prophet (pbuh) and his UMMATI, it is another reason that they should learn the language HE used.
:)
 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
We do our best to learn other languages for any non-religious purposes. But when it comes to understanding the language Quran was written in, we don't show the same interest.
BTW many Arabs don't understand Quran as it is written in classic Arabic (Fussah). So just knowing day to day Arabic is not enough for understanding Quran.
And to avoid mis-guidance from Ulema it is important that you need to know as what you are being taught.
And for those who claim to be close to the Prophet (pbuh) and his UMMATI, it is another reason that they should learn the language HE used.
:)

You are very right to say that we should learn arabic more than any other language i agree wid you 100% on it but its not possible for everyone and in the history arabic has not been a barrier for being a good or bad Muslim.

Allah does not bring a language barrier between you and Him. that was the point i wanted to make.
 

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