Gen. Raheel Sharif must stay as COAS. Next General in line should be promoted to 4 star and sent to

laltopiwalabalungda

MPA (400+ posts)
Endian go home and lick your wounds!

Take your Poo to the Loo!

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very good we pakistanis need to be educated by this add .pakistanis need loo too
 

j1234

Senator (1k+ posts)
Bingo!

You said it. I do not know how old you were in 2007 but Musharraf's downfall began after he removed the uniform as per the NRO deal with PPP. People did not throw him out. As Musharraf was not the COAS and the public sympathies were with PPP after BB's death, PPP won the elections. They fooled Imran Khan not to participate and themselves became the The paid black coats came out to restore the corrupt Ex Judge Iftikhar Chaudhary. This all happened because Musharraf did not remain in command of the Army.

Had he not removed the uniform, Zardari would still be in jail. Sharif brothers would not dare come back to Pakistan.

This is the dynamics of Pakistan Politics. This is the reality. These political goons are same from inside; same poison with different labels. They do business not politics. This political dynasties would do anything to protect their assets. Panama would be bargained for Asim Hussain and Ayan Ali cases. Ishaq Dar has already committed to Zardari. They are just waiting for GRS to retire.



you should not be worried about my age and better remain on the issue. PPP won the elections(whatever the reason was) conducted under army control, voted against PML-Q (govt/musharraf party) and still you believe people didn't throw him out, well result says it all. i am not here to change ur thinking and don't have time to answer all of your thinking.

fact is that rangers couldn't punish asim hussain after interrogating him for over a year. GRS is protecting corrupt politicians, if he punishes any of one, NS or zardari, i will take my words back and my dinner offer is valid. good luck
 

israr0333

Minister (2k+ posts)
I do not care what you think. You are just speculating without any proofs from history. People

You did not comment on Musharraf not being the COAS at that time.

PPP won because of Benazir's Death, NSharif's disqualification and PTI's non participation and then Musharraf not being the COAS. Musharraf's political allies from Q-Leage except for a few had secretly defected to the PPP and PMLN after Musharraf removed the uniform since they realized that Musharraf political career was over.

The same mafia just changed partners for the sake of power.

If GRS was protecting the corrupt then this political mafia may have already announced his extension.






you should not be worried about my age and better remain on the issue. PPP won the elections(whatever the reason was) conducted under army control, voted against PML-Q (govt/musharraf party) and still you believe people didn't throw him out, well result says it all. i am not here to change ur thinking and don't have time to answer all of your thinking.

fact is that rangers couldn't punish asim hussain after interrogating him for over a year. GRS is protecting corrupt politicians, if he punishes any of one, NS or zardari, i will take my words back and my dinner offer is valid. good luck
 

j1234

Senator (1k+ posts)
I do not care what you think. You are just speculating without any proofs from history. People

You did not comment on Musharraf not being the COAS at that time.

PPP won because of Benazir's Death, NSharif's disqualification and PTI's non participation and then Musharraf not being the COAS. Musharraf's political allies from Q-Leage except for a few had secretly defected to the PPP and PMLN after Musharraf removed the uniform since they realized that Musharraf political career was over.

The same mafia just changed partners for the sake of power.

If GRS was protecting the corrupt then this political mafia may have already announced his extension.

if you don't care then stop quoting me again and again. i didn't comment on musharraf because this topic is not about him and i don't want to involve 60 yrs of history just because of GRS extension issue.
PPP won because of death, PTI boycott, and NS disqualification (however his party got 2nd highest seats) - there is nothing illegal in it. still at that time PPP, PML N and PTI mandate was against musharraf and MQM+PML Q was pro musharraf, so result says it all, PPP + PML N + ANP made the government initially.

so i don't have proofs? i quoted actual facts that corrupt is still enjoying power, and GRS couldn't punish asim hussain and others and still you think only u have the right to quote history.

i can express here whatever i feel and i never start quoting others if they don't agree with me, i only reply when some one quotes me. i respect others opinion and expect others to do the same.

GRS actions says it all and i think he should go home on time. that's my opinion, you can express whatever u feel better but avoid arguing others on what they feel
 

israr0333

Minister (2k+ posts)
Let them first send these cases to the Military Court and then speak if they are punished. This electoral process where communities vote only for their own is the reason why these goons keep getting elected.

I am quoting you because you are spreading disinformation.


if you don't care then stop quoting me again and again. i didn't comment on musharraf because this topic is not about him and i don't want to involve 60 yrs of history just because of GRS extension issue.
PPP won because of death, PTI boycott, and NS disqualification (however his party got 2nd highest seats) - there is nothing illegal in it. still at that time PPP, PML N and PTI mandate was against musharraf and MQM+PML Q was pro musharraf, so result says it all, PPP + PML N + ANP made the government initially.

so i don't have proofs? i quoted actual facts that corrupt is still enjoying power, and GRS couldn't punish asim hussain and others and still you think only u have the right to quote history.

i can express here whatever i feel and i never start quoting others if they don't agree with me, i only reply when some one quotes me. i respect others opinion and expect others to do the same.

GRS actions says it all and i think he should go home on time. that's my opinion, you can express whatever u feel better but avoid arguing others on what they feel
 

j1234

Senator (1k+ posts)
Let them first send these cases to the Military Court and then speak if they are punished. This electoral process where communities vote only for their own is the reason why these goons keep getting elected.

I am quoting you because you are spreading disinformation.

last week supreme court gave statement that civilians can be tried under military courts, then whose stopping them?

you are not here to certify that my opinion is disinformation for others, you may disagree with that but can not label as disinformation.
 

israr0333

Minister (2k+ posts)
As per the new amendment, the government needs to send these cases to the Military Court.

The Military Court cannot take suo moto notice like the Supreme Court.

The JIT reports for Asim Hussain Case, Uzair Baloch case have not been sent to the Military Court.

The disinformation I am referring to is your expression that GRS and the military are siding with the criminals.

Since this is spreading disinformation without proof, you are committing crime as per the law.

". . . . . propagating any opinion, or acting in any manner, .... , the integrity or independence of the judiciary of Pakistan, or which defames or brings into ridicule the judiciary or the Armed Forces of Pakistan, ...."


GRS as long he is the COAS, he is the Army.

I would like to add that Supreme Court has given this statement to make it clear that they have no objection to the cases being sent to the Military Courts, a misconception that the government had projected to the people that Supreme Court has objections in its initiation.


last week supreme court gave statement that civilians can be tried under military courts, then whose stopping them?

you are not here to certify that my opinion is disinformation for others, you may disagree with that but can not label as disinformation.
 
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drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
yes.pakistani army has only one soldier according to zaid zamaan.rs.so keep him boss till he is alive.lol
the funny thing is that for ry amy cief the chamchas say th same thing in hope of getting some bones if chief stays in power.
zaid zaman like pplsmain agenda is to spread his newly created religion by using army support
 

israr0333

Minister (2k+ posts)
Well, leadership skills are also important. While many factors involve the outcome of a war, Leadership is the most crucial factor. History records many examples where the battles and wars and have been won and lost because of the Leadership.

A military leader must have the following characteristics:

A person of strong and honorable character.


Committed to the professional Military ethic.


An example of individual values.


Able to resolve complex ethical dilemmas.

Provide direction.


Provide purpose.


Provide motivation.

We are not at times of peace so we cannot just change the Military head just for the sake of keeping the system.

What is more interesting is that on Army Chief's retirement, the Endians and the so called democracy loving mafia inside Pakistan are on the same page. Endians are anxiously waiting to see the back of GRS.




yes.pakistani army has only one soldier according to zaid zamaan.rs.so keep him boss till he is alive.lol
the funny thing is that for ry amy cief the chamchas say th same thing in hope of getting some bones if chief stays in power.
zaid zaman like pplsmain agenda is to spread his newly created religion by using army support
 

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