Cyril Almeida should not be detained but he must not be allowed to leave country and must be interro

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
Cyril Almeida should not be imprisoned for the time being as we all believe in freedom of press and social media to a degree which does not clash with core islamic values , core state values and core personal freedom values.

Have a look what this man was writing and decide yourself , He writes for dawn and Dawn is a pro west , pro usa, pro Shia and pro liberalism like most other English papers of pakistan and their journalists.

http://www.dawn.com/search?cx=partn...004877&cof=FORID:10&ie=UTF-8&q=cyril+almeida+

If I were in place of sharif as head of Islamic republic of Pakistan , I will have a close look at this man and his doings and his funders and inspirators . I will not confine my self to this latest news item or its source but on his whole array of objectives.

Considering that with thousands of dead soldiers and money in billions of dollars spent on war and all types of reasonable looking anarchists abounding in country and whole factory of antipakistan news items on international press and with this pakistan barely out of this with efforts of the three sharifs , this man Cyril is not in tune of national needs.

I do not think any real harm will come to him as his written articles are like this since long . But remember that Portuguese ancestry which Almeida may have is important to the issue , though not that much .

Almeida must realize that Portuguese or him having Goan indian catholic ancestry that Portuguese were the ones who planned the destruction of Islamic trade cities from West Africa to East Africa to Red sea , to india to Malaccas and planned even to economically cripple and even invade entire muslim world including may be Jeddah and holy sites . I will write a thread on that soon on marshall Albuquerque and his own and his kings effort to successfully cripple the trade of entire Muslim empire to great effect .

Mr.Cyril Almeida is most welcome to be in Pakistan infact we want him not to run away and he not responsible for what happened between 1500 and 1580 and for havoc caused on Muslim cities all over the world but he cannot certainly try to ruin us by his reporting . His target has not been sharif alone but others . However he is not alone to watched closely there is former PMLN MNA from chakwal , there is Afrasiab Khattak and there are several others whose long term objectives are not clear .Are they journalists or are they non patriots who write to spread problem at others behest is a question .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_Almeida


This time almeida hit the nerves of Nawaz but usually he hits the nerves of proislamic lobby and their doings.

His Exist control list order should not be revoked even if Pope of Rome requests that unless he comes clear of any wrong doings . He should not be detained . I always give benefit of doubt to younger people than us.
 
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ThirdUmpireFinger

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What cyril said was right.

Its johadi group destroyed pakistan not some writers. Those who are involved in bombings and killings are protected by army but top class writer like cyril are being targetted. State is in danger from jaish mohammad and hafiz saeed group but cyril.

i am pmln supprorter but dislike any action against cyril by pmln. Nothing wrong in tellin truth about why all countries start disliking us. Why people outside pakistan get scared of us. Why kashmiri cause is damaged by our jihadi groups?

also cyril is pakistani regardless what religion he has. It is jihadis killing us not any minority of pakistan.
 
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GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I am surprised about reaction of journalist community, why are they so upset about it?

He has not been arrested,
just forbidden to go out of country so that he could he could be investigated for the news.
 

farooq22

Minister (2k+ posts)
DAWN is PPP media cell, controlled from USA. Strange thing is Govt has ordered JIT and put Cyril name on ECL, relax. Pasha Party lafafa media especially ARY and SAMA are in deep tension???????? May be hoping that thier boot polish shops are not sealed in after shock affects of Govt drive against such media people. As per constitution and law of Pakistan, media can not talk or write on Judiciary/defense related matters.
 

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
What cyril said was right.

Its johadi group destroyed pakistan not some writers. Those who are involved in bombings and killings are protected by army but top class writer like cyril are being targetted. State is in danger from jaish mohammad and hafiz saeed group but cyril.

i am pmln supprorter but dislike any action against cyril by pmln. Nothing wrong in tellin truth about why all countries start disliking us. Why people outside pakistan get scared of us. Why kashmiri cause is damaged by our jihadi groups?

also cyril is pakistani regardless what religion he has. It is jihadis killing us not any minority of pakistan.

Allow me to say a few things and remove a few misconceptions. It might be correct that Nawaz might have requested the agency heads to review the policy of allowing private fighters to be near borders and to tell them international response might be adverse . But Nawaz is a Kashmiri and the moment we remove our troops and our non state allies groomed for various jobs to pull back from Azad Kashmir the whole morale of valley people will fall concerning liberation and with our rivers and vital cities so close we risk every thing in kashmir battle .

It has been tradition of wars throughout history that armies have kept B teams to bear brunt of serious casualties , like Rajit had khalsas , Indians used Mukti Bahinis , Pakistan used Mujaheddins , and so on . These Team B provide single minded persons with great skill and valour not found in regular armies and such men may not be suitable for niceties of regular service.

The regular shelling on mutual border , the teams B nearby and such things are meant to keep occupied by India muslims in kashmir embued with hope .

Pakistan has somewhat naively and wrongly mentioned several times that our dispute with india is merely Kashmir , but what it omits is India does not think so , they believe the dispute is not kashmir , they believe in all powerful india controlling with help of other powers from Eden to UAE to Maldives to Afghanistan to even parts of middleeast all muslims as serfs .

when we did not have nukes such B teams were essential .

Issue here is that B team must remain B team not as having mind of its own , they must fullfil state's objectives of both peace and war . They must not bee seen acting in atrocities against civilians anywhere in the world or acting on behest of foreign powers or agents in our agencies working for foreign powers .
 

ThirdUmpireFinger

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I am surprised about reaction of journalist community, why are they so upset about it?

He has not been arrested,
just forbidden to go out of country so that he could he could be investigated for the news.

Investigatted for what? What about Ary idiots who always says that today army chief said this to Ns and today they will catch NS and blaabala. Why army not complained against them but rather they promotes those jokers.

Cyril article was right and we need more writers to have courage. Allah save this guy because not everyone takes bullets and survive kike hamid mir.
 

Paracha_Pakistani

MPA (400+ posts)
i am sorry i am posting out of context ,but i wanna talk about siasat.pk
this forum no longer free to express our point of views and feelings
i wonder why my few posts were deleted in last few days, in my posts which were deleted by whom i don't know ,i only talked about some posts against my faith and against Sahaba Karam ,and in some i criticized govt and establishment were also deleted
can anybody tell me this website run from which country and who is behind ?
i think i will not be active here anymore since it has become biased and no more free to express yourself only for goody goody???
 

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
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kindly note that these were not merely discovered but destruction of entire global Muslim trade and Muslim coastal cities at hands of ancestors of Cyril Sahib , the Portuguese.

Ask Cyril is the man below his hero or world villain ? . He is Alfonso de Albuquerque
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ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What cyril said was right.

Its johadi group destroyed pakistan not some writers. Those who are involved in bombings and killings are protected by army but top class writer like cyril are being targetted. State is in danger from jaish mohammad and hafiz saeed group but cyril.

i am pmln supprorter but dislike any action against cyril by pmln. Nothing wrong in tellin truth about why all countries start disliking us. Why people outside pakistan get scared of us. Why kashmiri cause is damaged by our jihadi groups?

also cyril is pakistani regardless what religion he has. It is jihadis killing us not any minority of pakistan.

His spins are the worst kind of depictions about Pakistan sponsoring all those Jihadis, fact is that Pakistan is fighting those jihadis who were created to fight Russians invading Afghsnistan.

Some of the people are Kashmiri expats who have their relative in Kashmir being killed and tourtured, they have the right to fight for freedom of Kashmir as it is a disputed territory, let me say this again it IS A DISPUTED TERRITORY TILL PLEBECITE IS HELD AND THEOSE EXPAT KASHMIRIS HAVE THE RIGHT TO FIGHT FOR FREEDOM.
 
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GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Investigatted for what? What about Ary idiots who always says that today army chief said this to Ns and today they will catch NS and blaabala. Why army not complained against them but rather they promotes those jokers.

Cyril article was right and we need more writers to have courage. Allah save this guy because not everyone takes bullets and survive kike hamid mir.

I agree with your point, but problem is that its Dawn and Cyril not ARY and three idiots.
Yes there must be more journalist who should have the courage to talk and discuss these matters but then Army make example of these journalist like Saleem Shahzad and Hamid Mir, so who can dare.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Allow me to say a few things and remove a few misconceptions. It might be correct that Nawaz might have requested the agency heads to review the policy of allowing private fighters to be near borders and to tell them international response might be adverse . But Nawaz is a Kashmiri and the moment we remove our troops and our non state allies groomed for various jobs to pull back from Azad Kashmir the whole morale of valley people will fall concerning liberation and with our rivers and vital cities so close we risk every thing in kashmir battle .

It has been tradition of wars throughout history that armies have kept B teams to bear brunt of serious casualties , like Rajit had khalsas , Indians used Mukti Bahinis , Pakistan used Mujaheddins , and so on . These Team B provide single minded persons with great skill and valour not found in regular armies and such men may not be suitable for niceties of regular service.

The regular shelling on mutual border , the teams B nearby and such things are meant to keep occupied by India muslims in kashmir embued with hope .

Pakistan has somewhat naively and wrongly mentioned several times that our dispute with india is merely Kashmir , but what it omits is India does not think so , they believe the dispute is not kashmir , they believe in all powerful india controlling with help of other powers from Eden to UAE to Maldives to Afghanistan to even parts of middleeast all muslims as serfs .

when we did not have nukes such B teams were essential .

Issue here is that B team must remain B team not as having mind of its own , they must fullfil state's objectives of both peace and war . They must not bee seen acting in atrocities against civilians anywhere in the world or acting on behest of foreign powers or agents in our agencies working for foreign powers .


Sheikh Sab, I wonder if you still consider our army as one cohesive unit or let me say if Wardi Shrif has managed to bring it back to a cohesive unit, it was certainly not after General Zia and during Musharaf era it was headed by at least five COAS who all thought Musharraf owe it to each one of them for this presidency and then there is General Pasha episode known to all.
 

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)

Sheikh Sab, I wonder if you still consider our army as one cohesive unit or let me say if Wardi Shrif has managed to bring it back to a cohesive unit, it was certainly not after General Zia and during Musharaf era it was headed by at least five COAS who all thought Musharraf owe it to each one of them for this presidency and then there is General Pasha episode known to all.
It so still a cohesive army but lack of proper knowledge of history , of world warfare , of details of workings of western world ,of real behind the scene politics and often mediocre background and intellectual calibre along with infiltration of alien and damaging ideas has made our army not even 45 % effective in tasks it can otherwise do . Their reluctance to take advice is another issue .
 

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
Government must order general Cleanup of all media from foreign sponsored and anarchist and extremist and antipakistan ideology elements .Before Obama or his agents force war on us from directions unpercieved we should have good reserves and cleansed judiciary and media so we can make a proper common front .
 

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