How Long will India Continue Massacres in Kashmir?

abdulruff

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How Long will India Continue Massacres in occupied Kashmir?

A Sovereign Kashmir: Random Thoughts-158
-DR. ABDUL RUFF
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Indian genocides and arrests of Muslims inside Kashmir have become a routine matter and UN is totally blind on Indian terrorism in Kashmir. Hindus (especially the high caste Paundits trying to control JK regime through the Hindu deputy CM), considered by India as extra important people on earth, are protected by both Indian forces and JK forces. Since all western powers under NATO terror syndicate are Islamic blood thirsty, an innocent looking India only expects their endorsement of its crimes against humanity as well and it obtains even prior sanctions from notorious UNSC for massacre operations of Muslims in occupied Jammu Kashmir at will. UN chief Ban ki Moon was among those that have stood firmly behind Indian state terror leaders in their genocides in Kashmir is a recipient of Indian awards and cash. .



A core US protagonist of state terrorism and promoter of NATO fascism in Islamic world to loot their resources and kill Muslims, Republican McCain with vagueness said that Kashmir is “an internal matter" and it was not America or any other nation's place to comment on sovereign affairs of a country. Influential and hawkish Senator from Arizona and 2008 Republican presidential candidate, McCain while addressing a press conference here said, "I am encouraged from what I saw in Kashmir, the sense of security returning to one of the most exquisite beautiful places on Earth". McCain said the Kashmiri locals were living more normal lives and there was better handling of issues by the authorities. McCain held discussions with J&K Governor N N Vohra and Chief Minister Omar Abdullah on various issues of “mutual interest” but what is the basis of these mutual interests is not clear. He said there is improvement in situation but there will be continued tensions as long as the issue remains of significant importance to both countries, India and Pakistan. Asked if he discussed Kashmir during his meeting with Pakistan Army Chief Gen Pervez Kayani, the US Senator said the focus was on ties between America and Pakistan. One has no clue as what promoted McCain to visit Kashmir and report to New Delhi in the form of a pro-India certificate.



On fake encounters and genocides of innocent Muslims in occupied Jammu Kashmir there is no authentic information except the statements by Indian military guys routed through media as reports from India. On August 7, 2011, Indian army claimed to have killed a Pakistani militant and divisional commander of Lashker-e-Taiba, Abu Usman, after a few-hour “gun battle” at Surankote area of Poonch district in Jammu region. Later, investigation showed that the deceased was a Hindu civilian. The Indian security forces are relentlessly playing an orgy of death and are out to pick and kill Kashmiris using all possible means. Nazim Rashid, 28, died under policy custody in Sopore district of the Valley. The Indian state terrorists carry out systematic and significant human rights violations in occupied Jammu Kashmir, including extra judicial killings, arbitrary arrest and detention and excessive use of force against innocent Kashmiri civilians. Rape is too often used as a tool to humiliate the population and attempt to break their will. The Kashmiri American Council (KAC) sharply condemned the ongoing custodial killings and fake encounters in Kashmir. No amount of wishful thinking would resolve this outstanding dispute between India and Pakistan. It needs the understanding of the international community in general and the United States in particular, including the full participation of the leadership of the people of Jammu & Kashmir in all future negotiations. Kashmir continues to bleed. World sees the horrendous brutality, unstopped and unpunished barbarities unleashed against the defenseless population. A deliberate, systematic and officially sanctioned massive campaign of brutal oppression launched against the people of Kashmir is still on the increase. There is a deliberate targeting of youth in flimsy hopes to crush a legitimate and popular uprising against occupation. Human Rights Watch wrote on June 30, 2008, "Impunity has led the members of the security forces to believe that they can get away with attacks." India reiterates its right to kill Muslim in occupied Jammu Kashmir at par with those inside India. But New Delhi needs to be persuaded to allow an impartial investigation into the recent killings. India must also allow the people of Kashmir to freely express their political views; releasing all political prisoners; repeal draconian laws; and withdraw the troops from urban areas and city centers. The UN, effectively controlled by all GST (global state terror) nations, like India, Israel, USA-UK terror twins, had brought about happy endings for a number of international disputes. The UN nurtured independence with democracy for Namibia, brought self-rule to East Timor, helped Montenegro and Southern Sudan gain independence, while the prospects for a plebiscite in Western Sahara look promising. Kashmir being one of the oldest unresolved disputes still pending on the agenda of the Security Council deserves the attention of the world powers in general and the UN in particular to guarantee peace and prosperity not only in Kashmir but also in the region of South Asia.
Present JK government has been using strong armed methods to suppress aspiration and wishes of people. Former Chief Minister and central home minister who is also patron of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) Mufti Mohammad Sayeed said wrong policies being pursued by the National Conference led coalition have been fueling alienation and creating desperation among youth of the state. Hundreds of innocent youth are languishing in jails due to the oppressive policy of the present government. The alienation is increasing among youth due to such policies. Not even a single person was in jail during PDP-Congress regime. He said that there should be an Anna Hazare in every home of Jammu to fight corruption.
Alleging that agenda of main opposition PDP is to disturb peace in the State, the Chief Minister Omar Abdullah said he has apprehensions if Afzal Guru is hanged and has conveyed these to the Government of India The puppet chief minister said the prime minister should not be within the ambit of the proposed Lokpal, and only be subject of the ombudsman's inquiry after demitting office. Omar reiterated that zero tolerance would be shown toward human rights violations in the state and accused the opposition Peoples Democratic Party of jumping to conclusions without waiting for the investigations to be completed. The accession of J&K to India was done in very unique circumstances and the solution will also have to be very unique. We don’t want a solution by taking a single region into consideration.

Chairman of his faction of Hurriyat Conference Syed Ali Geelani who was scheduled to visit Martyrs Graveyard here today was placed under house arrest along with many other pro-resistance leaders. The Kashmiri freedom fighters have said that from now on the “third Friday of Ramzan-ul-Mubarak every year and fourth in case of five Fridays in the month will be observed as Kashmir Martyrs day (Youmi-Shuhadai Kashmir). This more than a mere protest against the continued arrest of leaders during the holy Ramadan month. State authorities, as usual, placed many pro-Kashmir resistance leaders including Geelani under house arrest as he was scheduled to offer Friday prayers at at Masjid-i-Shareef Gole Market, Karannagar. Besides Geelani, authorities also imposed restrictions on the movements of Democratic Freedom Party chief Shabir Shah and Nationalist Front's Nayeem Khan. Meanwhile, Chairman of his faction of Hurriyat Conference Mirwaiz Umar Farooq regretted the ‘ban’ on his socio-religious program that was underway on Reliance Big FM for the month of Ramadan. At the onset of prevailing holy month of Ramadan, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq was a regular voice on Big Noon Chai, a three-hour morning show on the FM and he dealt at length on social issues in the light of Islam. The program series was taken abruptly off air this week. Mirwaiz siad Kashmir under blatant censorship. Geelani warned the government to face stir "if the political prisoners and youth who are languishing in jails are not released before Eid". Even as the second freedom struggle led by Anna Hazare is going on in New Delhi, Parliamentarians from India and Pakistan met here on 18 August Thursday to give a “boost to constituency for peace" and or a "free flowing" discussion on issues concerning people of the two countries, forgetting the fate of Kashmiris trapped in between. The two-day parliamentarians' dialogue which commenced 18th Aug was being jointly chaired by MP Yashwant Sinha and Pakistani Senator Mir Jan Mohammad Khan Jamali. For the last 64 years neither of the foreign offices has achieved any success. Two generations have passed and the third one has arrived, so the time has come for parliamentarians to talk. Both governments should be told to build on whatever was achieved so far so that people of Jammu Kashmir regain their lost sovereignty, freedom, human dignity and national glory.

All these time-pass "talks" have only resulted in the killing of about 100, 000 defenseless Muslims in Jammu Kashmir. Although there is no possibility of a Indo-Pak joint conspiracy against Kashmiris with some useful guidance from USA-UK terror twins, it is puzzling that both have failed so far to including Kashmiri leaders in their talks. While Muslims in JK thought Pakistan would take care of their genuine sovereignty interests, it is all long the Hindus in JK who got maximum benefits through the Indian patronage. Both Indian regime and its JK puppet government are used to such rhetoric from Kashmiri freedom fighters and they continue to plan conspiracies to eliminate the freedom fighters who still refuse to come together on a single freedom platform, in a sustained manner. But how long will the UNSC and big powers support Indian terror instinct to continue its illegal massacres in occupied Kashmir? --------
د. عبد راف
Dr. Abdul Ruff, Specialist on State Terrorism;Chancellor-Founder of Centor for International Affairs(CIA); Independent Analyst;Chronicler of Foreign occupations& Freedom movements(Palestine,Kashmir, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Xinjiang, Chechnya, etc);Former university Teacher;
Global media today, even in Muslim nations, are controlled by anti-Islamic agencies.

Terrorism is caused by anti-Islamic forces. Fake democracies like USA and India have zero-tolerance to any criticism of their anti-Muslim and other aggressive practices.Anti-Muslimism and anti-Islamism are more dangerous than "terrorism" Anti-Islamic forces & terrorists are using criminal elements for terrorizing the world and they in disguise are harming genuine interests of ordinary Muslims. /abdulruff.wordpress.com/91-9961868309/91-9961868309
 
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Doctor sahab have got this fake degree in a week :P !!

Indian kashmir is more free than Tibet,Western muslim provinces of china,pakistan kashmir,frontier provinces,karachi,many country in arab world and many other free country of africa!

can people from shia community protest in east saudi arab,bahrain !!

apart from few country in arab;all arab world,iran are persecuting people for no reason!!

In india kashmir,there was no problem until pakistan sent the afgani mujahideen towards india since 1989!!
it paved way for violence,terrorism and counter terrorism!!

Moreover kashmir in 2011 is more free than lahore or karachi!!

Source => Search on google and find it out
 
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shamsheer

Senator (1k+ posts)
So much for the freedom.


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کشمیر: ’فرضی جھڑپ‘ میں ہندو شہری ہلاک

بھارت کے زیرانتظام کشمیر میں ایک اور ’فرضی‘ جھڑپ کا انکشاف ہوا ہے جس کے بعد حکام نے فوج اور پولیس کے دو اہلکاروں کو گرفتار کرلیا ہے۔
بھارتی زیرانتظام کشمیر کے جنوبی ضلع پونچھ میں اتوار کو فوج نے ایک طویل تصادم کے بعد لشکر طیبہ کے کمانڈر ابوعثمان کو ہلاک کرنے کا دعویٰ کیا تھا۔
لیکن پیر کی صبح جموں کشمیر پولیس نے لاش کی شناخت کر کے یہ انکشاف کیا کہ ہلاک ہونے والا شخص پونچھ کا رہنے والا عام شہری تھا اور اس کا مسلح تشدد کے ساتھ دور کا بھی واسطہ نہیں تھا۔
سری نگر سے بی بی سی کے ریاض مسرور کے مطابق، جموں میں تعینات فوج کی سولہویں کور کے ترجمان کرنل ارورا نے بی بی سی کو بتایا کہ یہ آپریشن ایک پولیس اہلکار اور ایک فوجی کی خفیہ اطلاع پر کیا گیا تھا لیکن مارے گئے شخص کی شناخت ہوتے ہی دونوں کو غیرمسلح کر کے گرفتار کرلیا گیا۔
کرنل ارورا کا کہنا ہے ’مارے گئے شخص کی شناخت ایک ہندو شہری کے طور سے ہوئی ہے۔ تفتیش جاری ہے اور حراست میں لیے گئے دونوں اہلکاروں سے پوچھ گچھ کی جارہی ہے۔‘
کرنل ارورا نے بتایا کہ مارے گئے شخص اور غلط اطلاع دینے والے اہلکاروں کے نام تفتیش کی غرض سے مخفی رکھے جارہے ہیں۔
اتوار کو فوج نے ایک طویل تصادم کے بعد لشکر طیبہ کے کمانڈر ابوعثمان کو ہلاک کرنے کا دعویٰ کیا تھا۔ لیکن پیر کی صبح جموں کشمیر پولیس نے لاش کی شناخت کر کے یہ انکشاف کیا کہ ہلاک ہونے والا شخص پونچھ کا رہنے والا عام شہری تھا



پونچھ کے مقامی انسانی حقوق کے کارکنوں نے اس واقعہ کے خلاف احتجاج کیا ہے۔ ان کا کہنا ہے کہ اگر فوج تسلیم کرتی ہے کہ انہیں غلط اطلاع دی گئی تھی تو ایک طویل جھڑپ کے بعد مارے گئے شخص کی شناخت ابو عثمان کے طور پر کیسے ہوئی اور ہتھیاروں کی برآمدگی کا دعویٰ کیوں کیا گیا؟
یہ بات قابل ذکر ہے کہ فرضی جھڑپوں کی بابت کشمیر کی پولیس اور یہاں تعینات فوج کو کئی ایسے معاملوں کا سامنا ہے۔
سنہ دو ہزار چھہ میں جب وادی کے مختلف علاقوں میں گمنام قبروں کا انکشاف ہوا تو معلوم ہوا کہ پولیس نے انعام اور ترقیوں کی خاطر عام شہریوں کو فرضی جھڑپوں میں قتل کر کے انہیں پاکستانی شدت پسند کے طور پر شناخت کیا تھا۔ اس سلسلے میں حکومت نے تین افسروں سمیت سات پولیس اہلکاروں کو گرفتار کیا تھا۔
پچھلے سال مئی میں بھی شمالی ضلع کپواڑہ کے مژھل سیکڑ میں تین شہریوں کو فرضی جھڑپ میں قتل کر کے انہیں غیرملکی مسلح شدت پسند قرار دیا گیا تھا۔ لیکن پولیس نے ان کی شناخت کی اور معلوم ہوا کہ وہ بارہ مولہ کے نادی ہل علاقہ کے رہنے والے شفیع ، شہزاد اور ریاض نامی تین مزدور تھے، جنہیں ایک کشمیری مخبر نے فوجی افسر کو ’فروخت‘ کیا تھا۔
بارہ سال قبل جب اُس وقت کے امریکی صدر بل کلنٹن کی آمد پر کشمیر میں درجنوں سکھوں کا اجتماعی قتل ہوا، تو چند روز بعد فوج نے پانچ شہریوں کو ایک غار میں ہلاک کر کے آگ لگا دی۔ بعد میں دعویٰ کیا گیا پانچوں وہی مسلح شدت پسند تھے جنہوں نے سکھوں کا قتل کیا تھا۔ تاہم پولیس نے ان کی شناخت کی اور پتہ چلا کہ وہ عام شہری تھے۔
ان سب ہی واقعات کی تحقیقات شروع کی گئی تھی، جو اب بھی جاری ہے۔
Translation of the news:

In the occupied Kashmir under the administration of Indian government, a fake encounter is revealed and after that the authorities have arrested two members of army and police.

In the southern division of indian administrated occupied kashmir in the Poonch sector, the army claimed that they have killed a commander of LeT, Abu Usman after a long battle, on Sunday. But on Monday when the police identified the victim they revealed that the victim was citizen of Poonch and he had nothing to do with armed attrocities.

According to Riaz Masroor of BBC from Srinagar, the translator of the 16th core of army, Colonel Arwa has told bbc that this operation was done after a secret information from a police officer and army man. They were later arrested after the identification of the victim.

Colonel Arwa said " The victim is a hindu citizen and investigation is in progress with the arrested individuals" He also said that the misinformants names are concealed for the sake of investigation.


The local human right bodies have protested against this incident. It is important to note that fake encounters are common in Kashmir and police and army have to face a lot of such situation.

In 2006 many unknown graves were discovered in different parts of the valley and it was revealed that many locals are murdered ruthlessly and are burried after blaming them as Pakistani citizens. Government has arrested 7 police officers in that regards.

Also in May last year, in the southern district of Kupwada in Mushal sector three citizens were killed in a fake encounter and were labelled as Armed extremists. Later police identifed them and figured out that they are from Nadi Hill region of Baramola, Shafee, Shehzad and Riaz, who were actually masons. They were sold by a Kashmiri informer to an Army officer.

12 years ago when the President of United States Bill Clinton visited Kashmir, dozens of Sikhs were brutally genocided, then the army took 5 citizens and burned them alive in the cave. Later on it was claimed that those 5 citizes were the armed extremists who genocided the sikhs.
But later on police identified them as common men.

So far only investigation of these incidents is in progress.

 

shamsheer

Senator (1k+ posts)
Ban on speeches of Mir Waaz on Kashmir radio. Another miracle of freedom.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/india/2011/08/110818_kashmir_broadcast_nj.shtml


بھارت کے زیرانتظام کشمیر کے واحد نجی ایف ایم ریڈیو سے علیٰحدگی پسند رہنما میرواعظ عمرفاروق کے تبلیغی براڈکاسٹ کو بند کردیا گیا ہے۔
سرینگر میں نامہ نگار ریاض مسرور کے مطابق میرواعظ نے انکشاف کیا ہے کہ انہیں مذکورہ ریڈیو چینل کے حکام نے فون پر بتایا کہ پروگرام پر سرکاری ایجنسیوں نے اعتراض کیا تو اسے بند کردیا گیا۔ لیکن بِگ92.7 نامی اس چینل کی نگران کمپنی ریلائنس کیمونکشینز لمییٹڈ نے میرواعظ عمر کے دعوے کی تردید کی ہے اور کہا ہے کہ پروگرام میں محض تبدیلی لائی گئی ہے جسکے تحت اب کے بعد میرواعظ درس نہیں دینگے۔
قابل ذکر ہے کہ رمضان کا مہینہ شروع ہوتے ہی بھارت کے زیرانتظام کشمیر میں مقامی ٹی وی اور ریڈیو چینلوں سے مذہبی پروگراموں کا سلسلہ شروع ہوجاتا ہے۔ لیکن یہ پہلا موقع ہے کہ وادی کی واحد نجی ایف ایم چنیل نے کسی علیٰحدگی پسند رہنما کو اسلامی تبلیغ کے سلسلہ وار پروگرام میں ایک ماہ کے لئے روزانہ مدعو کیا ہو۔
اس پروگرام میں میرواعظ مذہبی اور سماجی امور پر خطاب کرتے تھے اور نوجوانوں کو بے راہ روی سے باز رہنے کی نصیحت کرتے تھے۔ایف ایم کے مقامی سٹیشن سے وابستہ عہدیداروں کا کہنا ہے کہ یہ پروگرام بہت مقبول ہورہا تھا۔
جمعرات کو میرواعظ عمرفاروق نے ایک بیان میں یہ دعوٰی کیا کہ ریڈیو سٹیشن سے انہیں بتایا گیا کہ حکومت نے اس پروگرام پر پابندی عائد کی ہے۔
اس پروگرام کا سلسلہ بند کئے جائے جانے پر میرواعظ عمر نے الزام عائد کیا ہے کہ اس پابندی کا مقصد کشمیریوں کو ان کی مذہبی اور تمدنی سرگرمیوں سے باز رکھنا ہے۔
انہوں نے ایک بیان میں کہا کہ ’ اس بات سے اندازہ لگایا جاسکتا ہے کہ کشمیر میں اظہار رائے پر کس طرح کی پابندیاں ہیں۔ یہاں تو مذہبی حقوق بھی سلب کئے جارہے ہیں‘۔
سماجی اصلاح اور اسلامی تبلیغ کے اس پروگرام کو اچانک بند کرنے سے متعلق اس ریڈیو چینل کی نگران کمپنی ریلائنس کے حکام نے واضح کیا ہے کہ انہیں حکومت کی طرف سے کوئی دباؤ نہیں تھا ۔
کمپنی کی ایک ترجمان نے نام مخفی رکھنے کی شرط پر بتایا کہ میرواعظ عمر کے ساتھ پورے ایک ماہ تک مذہبی براڈکاسٹ کی بات طے ہوگئی تھی، لیکن بعد میں پروگرام میں تبدیلی لائی گئی۔ انہوں نے کہا ’ اس میں حکومت کا کوئی رول نہیں ہے‘۔
واضح رہے دسمبر دو ہزار چھ میں ریلائنس کیمونیکیشنز نے اپنے ایف ایم چینل بِگ نائنٹی ٹو پوانٹ سیون کے سرینگر سٹیشن کا افتتاح کیا تھا۔
یہاں سے معلومات اور تفریح کے درجنوں پروگرام نشر ہوتے ہیں جو نہایت مقبول ہیں۔ پچھلے پانچ سال میں یہاں منعقد ہونے والے کئی انتخابات کے دوران مختلف سیاسی گروپوں نے اسی ایف ایم چینل سے اپنی انتخابی مہم چلائی۔ گزشتہ برس کی ہمہ گیر احتجاجی تحریک کے بعد حکومت نے افواہوں اور تشدد کے خلاف اپنے مؤقف کی تشہیر بھی ایف ایم کے ذریعہ ہی کی۔
 
@shamsheer


Kashmir belongs to india for 5000 years since origin of civilization..its origin of hinduism..its name,culture and traditions are part of hinduism!!

The valley muslims come from central asia,iran and tajikistan since 1500 AD !!Pandits are true kashmiris!!

The extremists people from valley who doesnt want to be part of indian union can migrate to their ancestors land !!
Anyone who likes to live in secular india,can do so ;those who wants to divide india;can move to pakistan!!

see the page
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?76671-Suicide-blast-in-Jamrud-mosque-53-killed-123-injured

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nd find out who is more free
 
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shamsheer

Senator (1k+ posts)
People who believe that they own lands becuase of the known 5000 years history, my word of advice for them. Stop living in the past and start apprecaiting the present. With that standards there is no room for non native americans in America and Canada, similarly in Australia and new zealand. As for bomb lasts in Pakistan, we know what uncircumcised ghusbethiyas are behind that.
 

IndiaGuy

Senator (1k+ posts)
People who believe that they own lands becuase of the known 5000 years history, my word of advice for them. Stop living in the past and start apprecaiting the present. With that standards there is no room for non native americans in America and Canada, similarly in Australia and new zealand. As for bomb lasts in Pakistan, we know what uncircumcised ghusbethiyas are behind that.

Dear.. you have no Idea what kind of rights native american has. they are the true American till today.Kashmir belong to India and will remain so.. Who doesn't like can defiantly move to pakistan.
 
People who believe that they own lands becuase of the known 5000 years history, my word of advice for them. Stop living in the past and start apprecaiting the present. With that standards there is no room for non native americans in America and Canada, similarly in Australia and new zealand. As for bomb lasts in Pakistan, we know what uncircumcised ghusbethiyas are behind that.


Any proof for it?Entire india subcontinent belongs to true indic religions which are peaceful,tolerant;dont kill each other for proving their love or loyalty for a religion!!

Learn to be a good human before being a good muslim!!

Start loving your history,your rich traditions,culture then only you can get rid of hatred propagated !!
 
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Bombaybuz

Minister (2k+ posts)
How long we gonna keep poking our nose in kashmir ...?? bangal sambhala nahi aaj alag mulk hai, kashmir apni side walay bhe dena per jayee ga ... what not line of control be considered as international border ..? i think we should have a poll on this ... THAT WAHT SHOULD BE THE FUTURE OF KASHMIR
1.line of control be considered as international border between India and Pakistan (if half punjab and thar can be on the other side why not kashmir ??)
2.A united Kashmir as an independent country.
3.A united kashmir effiliatedd to pakistan or india (as per the will of kashmiri people)
 
How long we gonna keep poking our nose in kashmir ...?? bangal sambhala nahi aaj alag mulk hai, kashmir apni side walay bhe dena per jayee ga ... what not line of control be considered as international border ..? i think we should have a poll on this ... THAT WAHT SHOULD BE THE FUTURE OF KASHMIR
1.line of control be considered as international border between India and Pakistan (if half punjab and thar can be on the other side why not kashmir ??)
2.A united Kashmir as an independent country.
3.A united kashmir effiliatedd to pakistan or india (as per the will of kashmiri people)


India can only agree to demand number 1!!

Independent country and being landlocked with 30% minority (hindu ,buddhists) will make it next afganistan,with dependency on nations around!!

It will become new room for imperialist nation to influence south asia(be it china or america)!!

People will is not going to happen.India is strong,it has money,strong economy to hold kashmir and develop it !!pakistan is coupled with many problems,it has neither economy not power to take it(as it has tried it 3 times with repeated failures)
 

shamsheer

Senator (1k+ posts)
How long we gonna keep poking our nose in kashmir ...?? bangal sambhala nahi aaj alag mulk hai, kashmir apni side walay bhe dena per jayee ga ... what not line of control be considered as international border ..? i think we should have a poll on this ... THAT WAHT SHOULD BE THE FUTURE OF KASHMIR
1.line of control be considered as international border between India and Pakistan (if half punjab and thar can be on the other side why not kashmir ??)
2.A united Kashmir as an independent country.
3.A united kashmir effiliatedd to pakistan or india (as per the will of kashmiri people)

It is only a matter of executing the resolution passed by United Nations in 1948. Since muslims are suffereing under an oppressive regime so there is no need to implement those resolution. Do not you see Bro what is going on? Pakistan has always supported the resolution but India has never becuase they know the outcome.
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The northern Indian states of Kashmir and Punjab have been among the most conflictive regions of the world in recent decades. The killings and "disappearances" have evinced a strong gendercidal component, with younger men overwhelmingly targeted. The violence has spilled over into the rest of India, most notably with the Delhi Massacre of 1984 -- one of the worst gendercidal slaughters of modern times.
 

Bombaybuz

Minister (2k+ posts)
It is only a matter of executing the resolution passed by United Nations in 1948. Since muslims are suffereing under an oppressive regime so there is no need to implement those resolution. Do not you see Bro what is going on? Pakistan has always supported the resolution but India has never becuase they know the outcome.

Your are still living in 1948 even the kashmiries are not quoting that UNO resolution ... even i'll go for option one that cyrrent line of control should be considered international borber once and for all ... let the time take its course for any further progress but just for a piece of land we cannot just keep more then a billion people's fate hanging in the middle, as far as mr tiwari's arrogance is concern ... we know how big india is how much power and money it has has that it req: next a million troops to control the kashmir ... if a person living in worlds largest democracy says that people's will is not going to happened then its shows the mind set more then anything else... we are talking about the solution and Mr tiwari is showing us his muscles ... no wonder all the talkes on this issue failed just cause of this arrogance from the both sides.
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Perhaps there is a special corner in hell reserved for troopers who fire their weapons indiscriminately into a crowd of unarmed civilians. That, at least, must have been the hope of every resident who defied an army-enforced curfew in the Kashmiri towns. How Indian can say that there is peace in Kashmir with valley full of Indian Army troops commiting genocide day after day.
 

shamsheer

Senator (1k+ posts)
Your are still living in 1948 even the kashmiries are not quoting that UNO resolution ... even i'll go for option one that cyrrent line of control should be considered international borber once and for all ... let the time take its course for any further progress but just for a piece of land we cannot just keep more then a billion people's fate hanging in the middle, as far as mr tiwari's arrogance is concern ... we know how big india is how much power and money it has has that it req: next a million troops to control the kashmir ... if a person living in worlds largest democracy says that people's will is not going to happened then its shows the mind set more then anything else... we are talking about the solution and Mr tiwari is showing us his muscles ... no wonder all the talkes on this issue failed just cause of this arrogance from the both sides.

I am talking about a solution that a world agrees to and you are proponent of an idea that does not include the will of people in question and is your own whimsical approach. Kashmir is for kashmiries and they should decide what they want whether it is Azad or Jammu.
 

SINGH KING

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Kashmir is not just for muslims there are so many hindus, sikhs, buddist, gujars people live in jammu and ladhakh area . So there is no way that pakistan can claim whole jammu and kashmir state . So its better to make LOC as international border and likes of gilani etc can go to pakistani kashmir and live happily
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Kashmir is not just for muslims there are so many hindus, sikhs, buddist, gujars people live in jammu and ladhakh area . So there is no way that pakistan can claim whole jammu and kashmir state . So its better to make LOC as international border and likes of gilani etc can go to pakistani kashmir and live happily


We shall secede East Punjab and make it a home for oppressed poor Sikhs of the world.
Khalistan Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad
 

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