bahi Allah ney hamrey Naseeb main Quran or hadith dee hain ab is main hamara keya kasur hai yeh tu hamree kush kasmatee hai
quran tu ap ney paran tu hai nahi yeh ayat ik parloo syd kuch samaj ajye ap logoun ko takey qaymat kay din yeh mat kehna kisee wahabi ney batalee nahi thee.
And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, the Verses of the Quran) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire). (6)
jahil ka talluk kisi mulk se nhi hota............jahil insaan hmesha haq ko jhutlata he............
tumhain tumharey valeedain ne tameez sikhaee hotee to tum ikhtelaaf krtey na k bakwaas krtey...........
ab pata chala hoga k kisi ne sach hi kaha tha k "izzat do ore izzat lo"...........
sharam b nhi aie tumhain baat krtey hoey lakin kahan aie agar atee to ikhtelaaf e rae krtey na k kisi ko abuse krtey..........
tumharee kia awkaat ore tumharey baap ki kia awkaat...........ore phir lunatic kis ko keh rahey ho???????? sharam tum ko magar nhi atee.........
tumhein kisi ne kuch keh diya to tumhain vo bura b laga jahil b laga ore bohut kuch lakkin jb khud yahi alfaaz kisi ore shakhs k barey me kahey us wakt khial nhi aya.........
Where as a Muslim says : "?? ???? ???? ???? ???? ??? ????"
When we say to somebody "?? ???? ????" or " ???? ????? ???? ???? ??? ????" we intend to say "may Allah keep you safe from any hazard, accident or unforeseen loss". OLNY Allah has that divine power to protect someone from an accident or unforeseen loss . If somebody believe that someone other than Allah also have that divine power (Nauzobilla) then that person is committing SHIRK.When somebody arranges for a bodyguard (e.g., Zaid) to protect someone (e.g.,tahir ul qadri) , and Zaid is equipped with weapon and/or skill to be able to protect him, in case of an attack. If it is said that "Zaid you are resposible to keep tahir ul qadri safe", then there is no SHIRK since Zaid has means to try to protect tahir ul qadri.
The poet in this poetry is doing SHIRK by believing that tahir ul qadri has a divine power to protect him (Nauzobilla). It is very obvious that the poet does not intend to say in his poetry that "tahir ul qadri arrange a bodyguard to keep me safe" ("???? ??????? ???? ??? ???? ???? ?? ?????? ?? ??" ).
Now Please read the following hadeeth rom Sahih Bukhari:
Malik al-Ashja'i reported: We, nine, eight or seven men, were in the company of the Messenger of Allah (??? ???? ???? ????) and he (??? ???? ???? ????) said: Why don't you pledge allegiance to the Messenger of Allah? -while we had recently pledged allegiance. So we said: Messenger of Allah (??? ???? ???? ????), we have already pledged allegiance to you (??? ???? ???? ????). He (??? ???? ???? ????) again said: Why don't you pledge allegiance to the Messenger of Allah? And we said: Messenger of Allah (??? ???? ???? ????), we have already pledged allegiance to you. He again said: Why don't you pledge allegiance to the Messenger of Allah (??? ???? ???? ????)? We stretched our hands and said: Messenger of Allah (??? ???? ???? ????). we have already pledged allegiance to you. Now tell (on what things) should we pledge allegiance to you. He (??? ???? ???? ????) said I (You must pledge allegiance) that you would worship Allah only and would not associate with Him anything, (and observe) five prayers, and obey- (and he said one thing in an undertone) -that you would not beg people of anything. (And as a consequence of that) I saw that some of these people did not ask anyone to pick up the whip for them if it fell down. (Sahih Muslim Book #005, Hadith #2270)
The lesson (from the point of view of topic under discussion) learned from this hadeeth is that Prophet Muhammad (??? ???? ???? ????) took pledge from his companians (??????? ??????? ????????) that they would not associate with Allah anything (SHIRK) and that they would not beg people of anything. The companion of Prophet Muhammad knew that SHIRK is such a worst sin that there is no forgiveness for this sin (SHIRK) from Allah and as a consequences they (??????? ??????? ????????) were so careful and afraid of Allah that they did not ask anyone to pick up the whip for them if it fell down. Obviously it is not a SHIRK to ask someone to help picking a whip, but this Hadeeth shows the extra carefulness of the companion of prophet Muhammad (??????? ??????? ????????)trying not to involve in form of activity where there is slightest doubt of SHIRK.
May Allah give hidayat to this Umma and open their hearts to be able to understand the truth (Aameen)
Where as a Muslim says : "?? ???? ???? ???? ???? ??? ????"
When we say to somebody "?? ???? ????" or " ???? ????? ???? ???? ??? ????" we intend to say "may Allah keep you safe from any hazard, accident or unforeseen loss". OLNY Allah has that divine power to protect someone from an accident or unforeseen loss . If somebody believe that someone other than Allah also have that divine power (Nauzobilla) then that person is committing SHIRK.When somebody arranges for a bodyguard (e.g., Zaid) to protect someone (e.g.,tahir ul qadri) , and Zaid is equipped with weapon and/or skill to be able to protect him, in case of an attack. If it is said that "Zaid you are resposible to keep tahir ul qadri safe", then there is no SHIRK since Zaid has means to try to protect tahir ul qadri.
The poet in this poetry is doing SHIRK by believing that tahir ul qadri has a divine power to protect him (Nauzobilla). It is very obvious that the poet does not intend to say in his poetry that "tahir ul qadri arrange a bodyguard to keep me safe" ("???? ??????? ???? ??? ???? ???? ?? ?????? ?? ??" ).
Now Please read the following hadeeth rom Sahih Bukhari:
Malik al-Ashja'i reported: We, nine, eight or seven men, were in the company of the Messenger of Allah (??? ???? ???? ????) and he (??? ???? ???? ????) said: Why don't you pledge allegiance to the Messenger of Allah? -while we had recently pledged allegiance. So we said: Messenger of Allah (??? ???? ???? ????), we have already pledged allegiance to you (??? ???? ???? ????). He (??? ???? ???? ????) again said: Why don't you pledge allegiance to the Messenger of Allah? And we said: Messenger of Allah (??? ???? ???? ????), we have already pledged allegiance to you. He again said: Why don't you pledge allegiance to the Messenger of Allah (??? ???? ???? ????)? We stretched our hands and said: Messenger of Allah (??? ???? ???? ????). we have already pledged allegiance to you. Now tell (on what things) should we pledge allegiance to you. He (??? ???? ???? ????) said I (You must pledge allegiance) that you would worship Allah only and would not associate with Him anything, (and observe) five prayers, and obey- (and he said one thing in an undertone) -that you would not beg people of anything. (And as a consequence of that) I saw that some of these people did not ask anyone to pick up the whip for them if it fell down. (Sahih Muslim Book #005, Hadith #2270)
The lesson (from the point of view of topic under discussion) learned from this hadeeth is that Prophet Muhammad (??? ???? ???? ????) took pledge from his companians (??????? ??????? ????????) that they would not associate with Allah anything (SHIRK) and that they would not beg people of anything. The companion of Prophet Muhammad knew that SHIRK is such a worst sin that there is no forgiveness for this sin (SHIRK) from Allah and as a consequences they (??????? ??????? ????????) were so careful and afraid of Allah that they did not ask anyone to pick up the whip for them if it fell down. Obviously it is not a SHIRK to ask someone to help picking a whip, but this Hadeeth shows the extra carefulness of the companion of prophet Muhammad (??????? ??????? ????????)trying not to involve in form of activity where there is slightest doubt of SHIRK.
May Allah give hidayat to this Umma and open their hearts to be able to understand the truth (Aameen)
In me se konsa music he konsa music nhi??????????? sarey muftion se sawal specially jinko zatiat pe guftagoo krney ka ziada shoke he.
................Ye b bta dain k in me se konsa halal he konsa haram..................specially 1947 mulla copy paste .....................ye bta dain k national antham me b music instruments bajaee jatey hain to kia vo halal he ya haram???????????
In me se konsa music he konsa music nhi??????????? sarey muftion se sawal .
................Ye b bta dain k in me se konsa halal he konsa haram..................specially 1947 mulla copy paste .....................ye bta dain k national antham me b music instruments bajaee jatey hain to kia vo halal he ya haram???????????
For Admins why the thread is closed instead of banning the person who turns every religious thread into a sectarian thread(pakistan1947)
First of all I hate ADMIN coz he have too many authorities.
secondly i admire the admin kay woh aise posts delete ker deta.(WORDS FOR ADMIN)= (ADMIN BHAI YAD RAKHNA AGER TUMHARAY FORUMS PER SE KISI NAY FASAAD KIA YAH USS KA NAZRIA AISAY BAVEQOOFO KI WAJA SE GHAALAT HUWA JO AQAL SE HALEE HAIN TOU TUM SE B SAWAAL HO GA KAY is some one warn u for that or not?think about it.)
Aur ager kisi bhai kay pass baqaida ARABIC WORDS HAIN tou iss ko koe samja doo(thread shuru kernay walay ko) SHARAAB kay baray mai b kaha gaya hai kay ho sakta hai kay uss kay kuch fawaid HOON magar NUQSAAN faisdey say ziada hai.
In me se konsa music he konsa music nhi??????????? sarey muftion se sawal .
................Ye b bta dain k in me se konsa halal he konsa haram..................specially 1947 mulla copy paste .....................ye bta dain k national antham me b music instruments bajaee jatey hain to kia vo halal he ya haram???????????
For Admins why the thread is closed instead of banning the person who turns every religious thread into a sectarian thread(pakistan1947)
first of all , Pakistan1947 isn't sectarian , try understanding his point of view.
secondly , ONly that music WHICH makes you do something wrong or contains slangs ,makes a man comit kufr , is wrong . If you agree with me , fine , if not , than every one has his own choices to make.........
