Sheikh Assim Al Hakeem - Is it ok to rely only on the Qur'an and not Hadith or Sunnah?

zoraym

MPA (400+ posts)
let me hear your arguments about what is mentioned in the video. I know you have serious flaws with your theory and you also know it that is why you will not give any explanation and just keep repeating your mantra. may be you are a qadyani and hadith shows the reality of your religion. whatever you believe keep it to yourself please.
surprised at your answer. i am not into any argument with you, you can think whatever you want and wish. Allah swt knows best.
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Ok good for you!
While 11% muslims are praying 5 times a day, you can go fly a kite?...and see if I give a damn! ?
You can hang yourself upside down like I give a damn about you....
Keep following like a blind bat...
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
You can hang yourself upside down like I give a damn about you....
Keep following like a blind bat...
Haha...A mentally bankrupt like you wont even have a dime to give to some one ?
I don't mind hanging upside down once in a while, only when I want to see the real face of a crooked dude like you...but not in a mood to do it now...I just had a good dinner and don't want to spoil it.?
Besides, never mind waking up Pakistan? Wake yourself up first to come out from jahalat!?
 

zoraym

MPA (400+ posts)
You are agreeing that Quran is complete and then you are putting but and if? Aren't you being hypocrite?
قُلْ أَطِيعُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ وَٱلرَّسُولَ ۖ فَإِن تَوَلَّوْا۟ فَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ ٱلْكَٰفِرِينَ


Say, ‘Obey God and the Messenger,’ but if they turn away, [know that] God does not love t
those who ignore [His commands]. The Islam i am learning do not teach me to start abusing people who are trying to understand quran and islam. Allah swt dislikes argument, the most
 

zoraym

MPA (400+ posts)
قُلْ أَطِيعُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ وَٱلرَّسُولَ ۖ فَإِن تَوَلَّوْا۟ فَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ ٱلْكَٰفِرِينَ


Say, ‘Obey God and the Messenger,’ but if they turn away, [know that] God does not love t
those who ignore [His commands]. The Islam i am learning do not teach me to start abusing people who are trying to understand quran and islam. Allah swt dislikes argument, the most
The mentioned ayah is from surah Aal e Imran ayah 32
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Haha...A mentally bankrupt like you wont even have a dime to give to some one ?
I don't mind hanging upside down once in a while, only when I want to see the real face of a crooked dude like you...but not in a mood to do it now...I just had a good dinner and don't want to spoil it.?
Besides, never mind waking up Pakistan? Wake yourself up first to come out from jahalat!?
You are still a baby go change your diaper before you sleep. I have seen many dumb ass like you with no logic or rational argument. Just an empty rhetoric. Chal isha parh warna bohat human ga or you will be heading for hell...??
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
The mentioned ayah is from surah Aal e Imran ayah 32
Yes this ayat doesn't say to follow àhadeeth.
Ahadeeth were complied some 200 years after the death of Hazrat Mohammad.
Hazrat Mohammad job was to teach the word of Allah through the Quran only.
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
You are still a baby go change your diaper before you sleep. I have seen many dumb ass like you with no logic or rational argument. Just an empty rhetoric. Chal isha parh warna bohat human ga or you will be heading for hell...??
Why bother?...Just look in the mirror ?
 

zoraym

MPA (400+ posts)
This is NOT for any argument. Just for information and knowledge, if i am wrong somewhere, request any or all to correct me. Allah swt says to stand for salaah and rukooh and sajdah. surah Haj ayah 77, recite surah with 7 ayat i.e Surah fatiha, starting with bismillah. ref. surah Hijr ayat 87. It is our prophet who taught us how to do rukooh and how to do sajdah, Atee Allah wa Atee O Rasool Allah
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
This is NOT for any argument. Just for information and knowledge, if i am wrong somewhere, request any or all to correct me. Allah swt says to stand for salaah and rukooh and sajdah. surah Haj ayah 77, recite surah with 7 ayat i.e Surah fatiha, starting with bismillah. ref. surah Hijr ayat 87. It is our prophet who taught us how to do rukooh and how to do sajdah, Atee Allah wa Atee O Rasool Allah
Keep doing namaz I hope one day you wiĺl realize the true spirit of the Quran.
 

WatanDost

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Keep doing namaz I hope one day you wiĺl realize the true spirit of the Quran.

Kindly ask Allah swt for true path , i am afraid people around you wont offer funeral prayer on yout dead body when you depart from this world based upon yours logic that "Funeral prayer wasnt mentioned in Quran".
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Kindly ask Allah swt for true path , i am afraid people around you wont offer funeral prayer on yout dead body when you depart from this world based upon yours logic that "Funeral prayer wasnt mentioned in Quran".
Exactly! why funeral prayers for what? Any logic in it?
 

AdamA

Senator (1k+ posts)
I wonder what activity was carried out at the Kabbah and at Masjid al Nabwi in Medina which was built at the time of the Prophet (saw)? The Quran repeatly mentions to Establish prayer and pay Zakat...
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
It is in quran that do dua for deceased but how to do, it is not mentioned n explained in quran but in sunnah. Funeral prayer is Dua read its mening.
Brother you keep following qhat you think is right for you...
Allah will not ask us about hadeeth but He will surely ask us about the guidance He gave us in the form of Al-Quran.
As for the dead people we are supposed to do dua and ask almighty Allah to have mercy on the departed soul.
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Ok good for you!
While 11% muslims are praying 5 times a day, you can go fly a kite?...and see if I give a damn! ?
he accepted he is a qadyani so no need to argue. qadyanis should not be imposing their beliefs on us though
 

Jack Squire

MPA (400+ posts)
Neither you have read the Quran or ahadeeth but you just want to defend because this is what you were taught by your parents and the mullahs.
Allah has given us intellect to think and reflect not follow anyone blindly.
I was born into a Sunni family but, since last 5 years, I don't follow the traditional Sunni Islam.
To me the Quran is enough and I'm responsible for my deeds.
I tend to agree with you in some regard -- I also, for the last few years have started reading Quran with english translation (urdu was too difficult to understand tbh) in order to better comprehend and understand Islam for indeed I am responsible for my deeds and will go into my own qabr as shall you into yours. Now you maintain that Allah SWT has given us intellect to think AND i completely agree YET what I do disagree (humbly) is when you say "To me the Quran is enough". I put forth the following points:

1. You say the Quran is complete AND I Absolutely agree! "O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result." ---- Clearly Allah is commanding you to obey the Messenger SAW (the word is AND not OR) -- so you HAVE NO OPTION BUT to accept the Messenger in other words his Sunnah and not cherry pick your own self-suited interpretation of Quran.

2. In another verse Allah SWT tells us "You should accept whatever the Messenger gives you and abandon whatever he tells you to abandon. Have taqwa of Allah... (Surat al-Hashr: 7)" --- again a reinforcement of following the Sunnah.

3. Another verse "When Allah and His Messenger have decided something, no believing man or woman has a choice about [following or not following] it. Anyone who disobeys Allah and His Messenger is clearly misguided. (Surat al-Ahzab: 36)"

I can quote many verses to you yet- if you truly are indeed interested in listening with an open heart to a perspective different than yours -- perhaps you could take a look at the following videos discussing your concern by men who have spent their lives researching and studying Islam:


AND if you're interested in reading the tafseer of Ibn Kathir - i've uploaded it here:
https://mega.nz/#!1vY2QKwL!3D2IP-YCVh8qRIjgImQfb0Ri1hiDUS7gJ1nAsHkWgvw

May Allah help us all and guide us to the straight path such that it pleases Him! Ameen!
 

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