biofilm

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: For Those Who Claimed Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri gonna Hijack IK Change Movement

Its funny you are talkin about T.A.Qadri hijacking PTI. it has already been hijacked by Jamat e Islami. Goodluck Imran Khan but you cannot save pakistan.
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: For Those Who Claimed Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri gonna Hijack IK Change Movement -- Must Watch

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bara bol na bolo. Malang aur majawaroon ka pta nae hae ap ko. Daro us waqt sae jab kisi malang ki baad dua lahae.

الحمدللہ مجھے جتنا پتا ہے اتنا ہی کافی ہے ان ملنگوں اور مجاوروں کو دین کا باغی سمجھنے کے لئے
میرے لئے حق اور سچ صرف اور صرف اللہ کے نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلّم کی ذات گرامی ہے
ان کے علاوہ جو بھی ہیں وہ جب تک اللہ کے نبی کے راستے پر ہے تو وہ بھی حق پر ہے
جو اللہ کے نبی کے راستے سے ہٹ کر ہے وہ شیطان کے راستے پر ہے
ملنگی اور مجاوری شیطانی راستہ ہیں اس لئے مجھے انسے ڈرنے کی ضرورت نہیں
آپ بھی نا ڈرو ... انہوں نے سب کو بیوقوف بنایا ہوا ہے ڈرا ڈرا کر

Id ik has rhe right to lead , then how can u dwny tahir ul qadri?

یہ میرا اختیار ہے کے میں قادری صاحب کی مخالفت کروں یا نا کروں
آپ چاہئیں تو حمایت کریں یا نا کریں
مجھے مخالفت کرنے دیں جسے میری بات صحیح لگے گی مان لیگا
انشاءللہ

Bas kr daen.

بس نہیں ہوسکتا
جہاں چور اور ڈاکو ہوں وہاں قانون کے محافظوں کا ہونا ضروری ہے
جہاں دین کے ڈاکو ہوں وہاں دین کے محافظوں کا ہونا ضروری ہے


 

mardan

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: dr tahir ul qadri will come back if public could come on roads against present electoral system....

HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH jhoooooottttta molvi
ye logo ko kehta hiaaaaaa.......k sharab ka paisa halal kam mai do tu paisa halal hojat hai hahahahahahhahahah
 

mustafvi

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: For Those Who Claimed Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri gonna Hijack IK Change Movement -- Must Watch

i beg ur pardon sir but to destroy a system one must have to get in the system first. its not like a material thing which one can break with a single rod in hand. system changes when one tries to get into it and tries to change it. for me what tahir ul qadri is saying is quite unrealistic coz leaders are meant to be one step ahead than the followers and in present scanario if TQ comes back and lead his agenda then it may become fruitful for him and for u as well and who knows may be he could be a success.
everyone knows this fact even a common man with a very common wisdom is aware of the fact that when someone decides to clean the gutter he must have to get into the gutter. intentions are important but the actions according to intentions should also be seen otherwise intentions are nothing but a dream of fool:)
i believe that TQ is a scholar and he has done alot in many fields so i expect he must knows the thing i mentioned above:):)

Sorry, I disagree to your philosophy of destroying the system by becoming the part of it. You need to study the history of revolutions - revolution means the thorough replacement of the system. Dr.Tahir-ul-Qadri started studying revolution in 1973 and if you get a chance do study his book "Quanic Philosophy of Revolution". :)
 

mustafvi

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: dr tahir ul qadri will come back if public could come on roads against present electoral system....

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sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: For Those Who Claimed Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri gonna Hijack IK Change Movement

Yeh 2 number molvi khud ko shaykh ul Islam kehta hai, jab ke yeh chootar Islam ki ABC se bhi waqif nahin, parlay darjay ka biddati mulla, logo mein naee naee bidatain mutarif karwana, logo ko jhootay khwab suna kar un ke iman se khelna is salay ka kaam hai, agar yeh kaheen Saudia main yeh harkatain kar raha hota to wahan is ko saray mil kar is ke chootron pay jootay martay, paadri kahen ka


Pir-e-haram ko dekha hay main ne
Kirdar bay-soz! Guftar wahi!
 

w-a-n-t-e-d-

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: For Those Who Claimed Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri gonna Hijack IK Change Movement

صوفیت کی بحث انشاءللہ کسی اور تھریڈ میں کرنا بہتر ہوگا

آپکی بات کا مختصر جواب یہ ہے محترم کہ
نا اللہ کے نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلّم صوفی تھے نا صحابہ رضوان اللہ اجمعین
نا انکے دور میں صوفیت تھی
ہم الحمدللہ دین صرف اور صرف نبی صلی علیہ وسلّم سے لیتے ہیں
اور جو چیز انکے زمانے میں دین کا حصہ نہیں تھے وہ آج بھی دین نہیں ہوسکتی نا قیامت تک ہوگی

صوفیت بعد کی پیداوار ہے
اگر صوفیت عین نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلّم کی تعلیمات کے مطابق ہوتی تو آپ نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلّم اورصحابہ کو بھی صوفی کہتے
مگر آپ نے صوفی لفظ کے لئے اولیا اللہ کا انتخاب کیا جو اس بات کی دلیل ہے کے اسلام کے پہلے دور میں اسکا تصور نہیں تھا

باقی ہمارے نزدیک اللہ کا ولی ہونے کے لئے خالص عقیدہ اور خالص دین پر عمل ضروری ہے
اور جو نظریہ ہے ہی بعد کی پیداوار وہ خالص کیسے ہوسکتا ہے؟؟؟
اللہ کا سچا ولی صوفی نہیں ہوسکتا آپ کسی کو صوفی بنادیں تو الگ بات ہے

ہر وہ عمل اور ہر وہ نظریہ جس پر اللہ کے نبی صلی علیہ وسلّم کی مہر ہوگی وہی دین اور عمل اللہ کے ہاں قبول ہوگا

Apko behas ka bohat shoq hai jo k la hasil hai

mery pas waqat ki kami hai magar yeh waqat meri majbori nahi main yahan khamoshi serf
es leyh rakhta hoon k yahan munkiren-e-hadith rawafids or qadyani siasi flags k nechay beth k musalmano ko gumrah
karrahay hain oper say tahiri biddati padri bhi hain abb yahan..

bohat say topics aysay hain jin main Ahlesunat wal jamat ka ikhtilaaf hai magar main khamosh rehta hoon
or apko bhi mashwara dayta hoon k in fitno ko moqa nahi dayin ...


 

moahhid

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: For Those Who Claimed Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri gonna Hijack IK Change Movement -- Must Watch

bhai jan

app or puri dunya eska mazi achi tarha say janti hai...

ek british padri dancer ko app sufi keh k "Auliya Allah Or Sufi " Hazraat Ki Tauheen karrahay hain gurayz karayin aysay comments dayny say

JazakAllah

Sorry, i don't have urdu software to type with.......... Allah S.W.T Sach Bolo Bhai ko Jaza e Khai day. Jaisa keh un ne wazeh keya ghalee sufiat aik ghair islami, baad ke paidawar aur deen e Islam key mutawazee deen aur nizam hai jo bidaat say bhara hai aur aksar in ka aqeedah aur amal shirk tak puhanch jata hai. Na to Quran Pak say aur na he Ahadith Mubaraka say sufiat key uchal kood (dance), qawwalee, bangray, melay telay aur qabron ki poja ka saboot milta hai. Hamaray leyeh Allah S.W.T ki kitab aur Nabi S.A.W ki ahadith kafi hain jis ki bunyaad tawheed hai aur ghairullah ki ibadat ki muzammat aur is par jahannam ki aag ka wada hay.
Mazeed yeh keh Nabi S.A.W key ilawa koi bhi qaabele Ittebaa nahi hai. Hamain Allah ne Rasool S.A.W ke Ittebaah ka hukam diya hai. Rasool S.A.W ki ittebaa Jannat ki guarantee hai jab keh andhi taqleed ka anjaam tabahee, barbadi aur jahannam ki aag hai.

 
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moahhid

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: For Those Who Claimed Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri gonna Hijack IK Change Movement -- Must Watch

bara bol na bolo. Malang aur majawaroon ka pta nae hae ap ko. Daro us waqt sae jab kisi malang ki baad dua lahae.


Id ik has rhe right to lead , then how can u dwny tahir ul qadri?


Bas kr daen.

Kamzor Eman wale log in charsee, bhangee aur neem uryan (half naked) malangon aur qabar paraston say dhartay hain. Isee leye to in ke dukan chaltee hai. Aik saccha musulman aik Allah ke ilawa kisi say nahi darta. Hum to haq bayan karaingay chahey koi peer, malang, charsee bhangee, qabar parast dua dai ya bad duaa. Hum Allah say ajar ki ummeed raktay hain aur usi par hamara bharosa aur eman hai.
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: For Those Who Claimed Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri gonna Hijack IK Change Movement

Its funny you are talkin about T.A.Qadri hijacking PTI. it has already been hijacked by Jamat e Islami. Goodluck Imran Khan but you cannot save pakistan.

No one can hijack IK's movement. It is an imagination and way of life. Hundreds of issues face Pakistan today starting from Kashmir to Terrorism. But Terrorism, Water and Electricity shortage are the main issues. They are rooted in mis-governance, corruption and injustice.
 

biofilm

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: For Those Who Claimed Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri gonna Hijack IK Change Movement

Mark my words. Imran khan cannot save pakistan. Dont you see. He cannot even judge his own charm whiling taking refuge in old horses of politics.he does not have a plan only merit he posesses is clean character which is very irrelvent. What is his economic plan he has given?
no one can hijack ik's movement. It is an imagination and way of life. Hundreds of issues face pakistan today starting from kashmir to terrorism. But terrorism, water and electricity shortage are the main issues. They are rooted in mis-governance, corruption and injustice.
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: For Those Who Claimed Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri gonna Hijack IK Change Movement

Mark my words. Imran khan cannot save pakistan. Dont you see. He cannot even judge his own charm whiling taking refuge in old horses of politics.he does not have a plan only merit he posesses is clean character which is very irrelvent. What is his economic plan he has given?

Imran Khan' Manifesto
 

biofilm

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: For Those Who Claimed Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri gonna Hijack IK Change Movement

my friend i have read it very carefully. i dont find a great difference between his and other agendas, the basic similairty however is that it mentions very little about how they are going change this mess. i know will point out things from this menifesto because they appear as solution but if you look closely they are not solutions e.g. a small example in constitutional reforms it discusses things that are very common and by no means predicts the outcome of the reform if there will be any revolutionary reforms in constitution but most importantly how are going to achieve these goal?
I see this consistancy in other listed points.I would suggest if that menefesto is somewhat problematic. Instead of reforming everything which will take a lot of time and resources changing it into something workable would be key. I would think if they put more effort in making strong economic plan, which would eventually be gaurded by secrutiy of the country. Now, is the time to bring the issue of defining our boundaries and area. especially, nothern boarders. implement our laws in those areas. we have suffered enough due to our careless behaviour. make those people accept pakitani law. USA will keeping attacking no matter what, if we dont secure our boundaries. that is key to success. no security, no investment, no economics, and no stability.
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: For Those Who Claimed Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri gonna Hijack IK Change Movement

my friend i have read it very carefully. i dont find a great difference between his and other agendas, the basic similairty however is that it mentions very little about how they are going change this mess. i know will point out things from this menifesto because they appear as solution but if you look closely they are not solutions e.g. a small example in constitutional reforms it discusses things that are very common and by no means predicts the outcome of the reform if there will be any revolutionary reforms in constitution but most importantly how are going to achieve these goal?
I see this consistancy in other listed points.I would suggest if that menefesto is somewhat problematic. Instead of reforming everything which will take a lot of time and resources changing it into something workable would be key. I would think if they put more effort in making strong economic plan, which would eventually be gaurded by secrutiy of the country. Now, is the time to bring the issue of defining our boundaries and area. especially, nothern boarders. implement our laws in those areas. we have suffered enough due to our careless behaviour. make those people accept pakitani law. USA will keeping attacking no matter what, if we dont secure our boundaries. that is key to success. no security, no investment, no economics, and no stability.

You are right. I agree with you fully. All these things which you mention will be done under Imran Khan. Pakistan is not a poor country. It is richer than Canada and Australia. But it is mis managed over last many decades. Pakistanis need a dediacted team which can manage it.
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: For Those Who Claimed Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri gonna Hijack IK Change Movement

او بابا جی میں پہلے کہچکا ہوں
اس شخص کا سیاست میں کوئی کردار نہیں
خوامخواہ آپ لوگ محنت کر رہے ہیں
ایک ایسا شخص جو اپنے مخصوص دینی نظریات کی بنا پر متنازع ہو
اور تقریبا ہر فرقہ اور مسلک کے لوگ اس کے مخالف ہوں ایسا شخص سیاست میں کوئی کردار ادا نہیں کرسکتا

سیاست نام ہے منافقت کا کہ جس میں مذہبی نظریات کی قربانی دینی پڑتی ہے اور سب کو خوش رکھنا پڑتا ہے
یہ بات ضرور ہے کے کہ قادری صاحب بھی لوگوں کو بیوقوف بنانے میں ماہر ہیں مگر دینی معاملات میں
انکا یہ فن مزارات پر تو چل سکتا ہے مگر سیاست میں نہیں
 

ummah

Councller (250+ posts)
A Message to Muslim Ummah by Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri - Wake Up and Change Your Life

everyone is recommended to listen this message of half an hour and then comment about thread.... instead of commenting irrelevently or without listening it( many will still do that, may ALLAH guide all)

 
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