Kia Shab-e-Meraj Hay?
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Wake up Pak
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The entire ahadith about Miraj are riddled with paradoxes and fairytales.
Allah has commanded us to ponder its verses and not to take anything at face value.
Allah has commanded us to ponder its verses and not to take anything at face value.
Wake up Pak
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Jo loog pariyoon aur dayos key kahanioon per yaqeen kar lay tay hain unka Quran Majeed say kiya layna dayna?
Citizen X
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It's nothing but a fantasy tale spun by some creative thinkers to tell to their children as a bedtime story most probably and then to give it credence attributed to one sahabi, Anas Ibn Malik.
It really is surprising that some people even call this fairy tale as the second biggest miracle in Islam after the revelation of the Quran.
How can one base so much of one's belief on a story that the prophet supposedly told to only one man. If it ever happened and was of any importance, like all of Allah's commands the prophet would have made sure to relate this alleged incident in a wide public gathering and made sure the attendants noted it down perfectly and then ordered them to spread this among all the Muslims.But then again, that's the problem with traditional Islam, 99% of it based on hadith with again 99% of is based on Khabre Ahad i.e only heard and relayed by one man. So Muslims today are supposed not follow the Quran which was revealed to the Prophet and he in his lifetime made sure it was recorded and transmitted to as many people as possible but rather things he said, stories he told and things he did seen by one man and then late told down a chain of men for 100s of years and then recorded by some Imam.
Yeah right!
TBH I've heard similar fantasy stories in hindu scripture as well.
Wake up Pak
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Someone has brought up a reasonable point concerning whether the verses refer to Prophet Musa rather than Prophet Mohammad.
Is anybody who has read the Surah's opening verses and would want to comment?
Surah name: Al-Isrāʾ (Arabic: الإسراء; meaning: The Night Journey), also known as Banī Isrāʾīl (Arabic: بني إسرائيل; meaning: The Children of Israel) is the 17th chapter (sūrah) of the Quran,
17:1 Glory to Him who journeyed His servant by night, from the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque, whose precincts We have blessed, in order to show him of Our wonders. He is the Listener, the Beholder
17:2 And We gave Moses the Scripture, and made it a guide for the Children of Israel: Take none for protector other than Me
17:3 The descendants of those We carried with Noah. He was an appreciative servant
17:4 And We conveyed to the Children of Israel in the Scripture: You will commit evil on earth twice, and you will rise to a great height
17:5 When the first of the two promises came true, We sent against you servants of Ours, possessing great might, and they ransacked your homes. It was a promise fulfilled
17:6 Then We gave you back your turn against them, and supplied you with wealth and children, and made you more numerous
17:7 If you work righteousness, you work righteousness for yourselves; and if you commit evil, you do so against yourselves. Then, when the second promise comes true, they will make your faces filled with sorrow, and enter the Temple as they entered it the first time, and utterly destroy all that falls into their power
17:8 Perhaps your Lord will have mercy on you. But if you revert, We will revert. We have made Hell a prison for the disbelievers
Is anybody who has read the Surah's opening verses and would want to comment?
Surah name: Al-Isrāʾ (Arabic: الإسراء; meaning: The Night Journey), also known as Banī Isrāʾīl (Arabic: بني إسرائيل; meaning: The Children of Israel) is the 17th chapter (sūrah) of the Quran,
17:1 Glory to Him who journeyed His servant by night, from the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque, whose precincts We have blessed, in order to show him of Our wonders. He is the Listener, the Beholder
17:2 And We gave Moses the Scripture, and made it a guide for the Children of Israel: Take none for protector other than Me
17:3 The descendants of those We carried with Noah. He was an appreciative servant
17:4 And We conveyed to the Children of Israel in the Scripture: You will commit evil on earth twice, and you will rise to a great height
17:5 When the first of the two promises came true, We sent against you servants of Ours, possessing great might, and they ransacked your homes. It was a promise fulfilled
17:6 Then We gave you back your turn against them, and supplied you with wealth and children, and made you more numerous
17:7 If you work righteousness, you work righteousness for yourselves; and if you commit evil, you do so against yourselves. Then, when the second promise comes true, they will make your faces filled with sorrow, and enter the Temple as they entered it the first time, and utterly destroy all that falls into their power
17:8 Perhaps your Lord will have mercy on you. But if you revert, We will revert. We have made Hell a prison for the disbelievers
Listen to nonsense of these people who are talking about a subject about which they have no contextualised knowledge at all.
I have explained all necessary points about human language. I want any scientist, philosopher or mullaan to challenge me on that.
The main point is the quran is not talk of human beings but message from God who is not bound by human use of their language. This is why human beings need to make efforts to try and discover meanings of the message in the quran.
