Fitna E Munkarine Hadees Exposed By Dr Israr Ahmad.

Citizen X

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To yeh muniker e Quran mullaon ne kabhi yeh bhi bataya hai ke Quran mein namaz kaisay adda ki jaati hai aur din mein kitnay waqt ki jaati hai kahan likha hai? Nauzubillah, maybe Allah just forgot to mention how to pray in detail and how many times in a day to pray.

And mushriks who follow these man made fairy tales have yet not been able to come up with a single hadith where from doing niyat for fajr, till salam of isha is mentioned in detailed step by step instruction. All sorts of blasphemous crap about the Prophets sex life and how he married children, that all is mentioned but this OH SO IMPORTANAT IBADAH is not. Yeah Right!

Not in the Quran, not even in the blindly followed fairytales but yet call it the most import pillar of faith, something that is tightly tied to one's entry into janah and the first thing that Allah will ask about on the day of judgement. So (Nauzubilah) Allah forgot to mention the times and details of how to do it, Sahaba forgot to do it, tabieen forgot to do it, taba tabaieen forgot to do it.

But we must do it because we have been indoctrinated since birth that you should do it.

You Mushriks can't even decided wheter you have do raaf al yadaain or not, or if while praying to others besides Allah in your darud you have to raise your finger one time, many time, make it go in circles etc etc lol
 

DrGigyani

MPA (400+ posts)
To yeh muniker e Quran mullaon ne kabhi yeh bhi bataya hai ke Quran mein namaz kaisay adda ki jaati hai aur din mein kitnay waqt ki jaati hai kahan likha hai? Nauzubillah, maybe Allah just forgot to mention how to pray in detail and how many times in a day to pray.

And mushriks who follow these man made fairy tales have yet not been able to come up with a single hadith where from doing niyat for fajr, till salam of isha is mentioned in detailed step by step instruction. All sorts of blasphemous crap about the Prophets sex life and how he married children, that all is mentioned but this OH SO IMPORTANAT IBADAH is not. Yeah Right!

Not in the Quran, not even in the blindly followed fairytales but yet call it the most import pillar of faith, something that is tightly tied to one's entry into janah and the first thing that Allah will ask about on the day of judgement. So (Nauzubilah) Allah forgot to mention the times and details of how to do it, Sahaba forgot to do it, tabieen forgot to do it, taba tabaieen forgot to do it.

But we must do it because we have been indoctrinated since birth that you should do it.

You Mushriks can't even decided wheter you have do raaf al yadaain or not, or if while praying to others besides Allah in your darud you have to raise your finger one time, many time, make it go in circles etc etc lol
What do you mean? Do you mean the prophet PBUH and the Sahaba didn't pray Salah?
 

Citizen X

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What do you mean? Do you mean the prophet PBUH and the Sahaba didn't pray Salah?
Do you have any proof they did your 5 daily prayers other than these fairy tale books, which were neither sanctioned, authorized or condoned by Allah or the Prophet.

There is ONLY ONE book we are 1000% certain is the word of God, in which he neither tells us to pray a 5 certain times of the day, neither does he tell us how to pray those 5 times. Everything else is hearsay and conjecture. Something the Quran strictly forbids you to listen or follow.

Quran 6 :116

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And if you obey most of those upon the earth, they will mislead you from the way of Allah. They follow nothing but conjecture: they do nothing but lie.
 

DrGigyani

MPA (400+ posts)
Do you have any proof they did your 5 daily prayers other than these fairy tale books, which were neither sanctioned, authorized or condoned by Allah or the Prophet.

There is ONLY ONE book we are 1000% certain is the word of God, in which he neither tells us to pray a 5 certain times of the day, neither does he tell us how to pray those 5 times. Everything else is hearsay and conjecture. Something the Quran strictly forbids you to listen or follow.

Quran 6 :116

6_116.png

And if you obey most of those upon the earth, they will mislead you from the way of Allah. They follow nothing but conjecture: they do nothing but lie.
You are hugely misguided if you are a Muslim. The method of Salah didn't need to go in books of hadith as it went down from one generation to another as a practical act. The Sahaba learnt it from prophet PBUH and then passed it on. And quran is very clear about Salah. You need to rethink about your emaan.
 

Enlightened10

Minister (2k+ posts)
بدقسمتی سے ہم قرآن کو بھولتے جا رہے ہیں پے یا پسے پشت ڈال دیا ہے اور ان احادیث پر توجہ مرکوز کر رہے ہیں جن میں بہت سی من گھڑت ہے، گزری ہوئی ہے اور 200 سال بعد لکھی گائ ہیں.
احادیث من گھڑت ہیں صرف قرآن مستند اور ایسی کتاب ہے جس میں کوئی شک نہیں
قرآن واحد کتاب ہے جس میں کوئی شک نہیں۔ صرف قرآن ہی مطلق سچائی ہے۔ حدیث کی پیروی صرف اس صورت میں کی جائے جب وہ قرآن کے مطابق ہو اور اس کا حوالہ یا اندھی تقلید نہ کی جائے۔ بہت سی احادیث قرآن سے متصادم ہیں۔
قرآن کے بغیر حدیث کی طرف براہ راست نہیں جانا چاہیے۔ ایمان بخاری نے نبی پاک صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کے 200 سال بعد حدیث کی کتاب لکھی۔ تقریباً تمام علماء اس بات پر متفق ہیں کہ اگر کوئی حدیث قرآن سے متصادم ہو تو حدیث کو چھوڑ دیں۔ علماء کہتے ہیں کہ بغیر قرآن حدیث کی کتابیں آپ کو گمراہ کر دیں گی۔ اسلام پر تمام حملے اس قسم کی حدیثوں کی وجہ سے ہوتے ہیں جو کہ سلمان راشدی اور ان جیسے لوگوں کی طرح قرآن سے نہیں ہیں۔۔
یہاں تک کہ اہل علم بخاری کی بہت سی احادیث سے سوال کرتے ہیں۔ . امام بخاری نے نبی کریم صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کے 200 سال بعد حدیث کی کتاب لکھی۔
یہاں تک کہ کوئی بھی 20 سال کے بعد کچھ بھی ٹھیک طرح سے یاد نہیں رکھ سکتا، اور یہ 200 سال ہیں.
 

Enlightened10

Minister (2k+ posts)
Quran reached us as it was brought down by Allah and reached us through his prophet and messenger. Allah did not send down hadith, nor did he authorize it and neither did the prophet. Hadith was "complied" centuries later by defeated Persians who had no authority what so ever
 

Wake up Pak

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Quran reached us as it was brought down by Allah and reached us through his prophet and messenger. Allah did not send down hadith, nor did he authorize it and neither did the prophet. Hadith was "complied" centuries later by defeated Persians who had no authority what so ever
The ignorant mullahs try to prove that unauthorized man-made books of ahadith are the sayings of the Prophet Mohamad, for which Allah never gave His approval as the 2nd source of Deen.
 

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