When are we going to live in a civilized country?

[Saladin A]

Every patriotic Pakistani must speak out and fight against the brutalities, deviltries, barbarities, tyrannies, atrocities and rascalities committed against PM Imran Khan and PTI leadership, workers and millions of its supporters by the corrupt military junta ruling the country by proxy and their cronies in the fascist PDM, judiciary, police force and bureaucracy. Just imagine the sordid and treacherous mentality and entropic cognition of the corrupt generals, judges and bureaucrats who are conspiring to instal one of the world's most notoriously corrupt men, convicts, mafia dons and looters of trillions of rupees from state exchequer Nawaz Shariff to become the next PM of Pakistan by every hook or crook and at any cost.

It should be the corrupt, dishonest, immoral, debauched, money-grabbing and commission-grubbing, PDM convicts and the generals, judges, bureaucrats, and police IGs, who should be prosecuted for treason and not PM, Imran Khan.

 

[Conservative liberal]

When are we going to live in a civilized country?​

move abroad.

#oksorry.

 

[NailaFirdous]

A lot of rambling out of frustration! Any practical suggestions?

 

[nutral is munafek]

When will we be civilized?
The same boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what we are made of, not the circumstances.​

(1) Nothing is forever in this world, not even our problems.
(2) I love walking in the rain because no one can see my tears.
(3) The most lost day in life is the day we don't laugh.
(4) Six best doctors in the world...:
1. The sun
2. Rest
3. Exercise
4. Diet
5. Self-respect
6. Friends
Stick to them at all stages of your life and enjoy a healthy life...
If you see the moon, you will see the beauty of God...
If you see the sun, you will see the power of God...
If you see a mirror, you will see God's best creation. So believe it.
We are all tourists, God is our travel agent who has already identified our routes, bookings and destinations... trust him and enjoy life.
Life is just a journey! Therefore, live today!
Tomorrow may not be.

 

[Citizen X]

When are we going to live in a civilized country?​

When we learn to live like civilized people. Go out on to the street of any city, do you see any civilized people?

 

[Noworriesbehappy]

Every patriotic Pakistani must speak out and fight against the brutalities, deviltries, barbarities, tyrannies, atrocities and rascalities committed against PM Imran Khan and PTI leadership, workers and millions of its supporters by the corrupt military junta ruling the country by proxy and their cronies in the fascist PDM, judiciary, police force and bureaucracy. Just imagine the sordid and treacherous mentality and entropic cognition of the corrupt generals, judges and bureaucrats who are conspiring to instal one of the world's most notoriously corrupt men, convicts, mafia dons and looters of trillions of rupees from state exchequer Nawaz Shariff to become the next PM of Pakistan by every hook or crook and at any cost.

It should be the corrupt, dishonest, immoral, debauched, money-grabbing and commission-grubbing, PDM convicts and the generals, judges, bureaucrats, and police IGs, who should be prosecuted for treason and not PM, Imran Khan.

I can see the pain in your comments of a true patriotic Pakistani, Just like many
others, It feels terrible when you hear any bad news from Pakistan. e.g.Lahore
accident, where this ********* ,killed 6 family members just because he was
out of his mind due to his family wealth.

We always overestimate the change that will occur in the next two years and underestimate the change that will occur in the next ten. Don't let yourself be lulled into inaction.

But i am very optimistic, at least we are heading in the right direction, remember, a path to success is not a straight linear curve, but zig zag, where when you take a step back, then you will see gradual progress.

If you look back at the last 18 months, it may look like we are going in the wrong direction. but if you look at the last 15 years, as a nation we have made a lot of progress, and we have a basic understanding of who is to blame for Pakistan's current circumstances. In 2010, no one in the general public would have accepted that the Army officers were to blame for everything. The way bloggers are discussing Army corruption openly, in 2010, they would be dead within a week. The stand that Imran khan has taken against them, he would have been dead a long time ago.

Whenever power dynamics change in any society, it goes through a period of chaos, and violence e.g. French Revolution, the American Civil War etc. Because of the modern age of information, we are going through this process a lot faster. Where it took countries a few centuries, we are doing in decades.

It is one-way journey, when people progress in their thinking, it can not be reversed

 

[Wake up Pak]

Sanam Javed's letter to SC. It's a slap on their faces.

 

[Saladin A]

When we learn to live like civilized people. Go out on to the street of any city, do you see any civilized people?

You can not generalize your opinion. There are a lot of Pakistanis who are honest, sincere, patriotic and good-hearted people but those who support corrupt political leaders & their mandates are the ones responsible for the degradation of our morals and ethics.

 

[Citizen X]

There are a lot of Pakistanis who are honest, sincere, patriotic and good-hearted people

None of those traits have anything to do with being civilized, I can have none of those traits and yet be civilized. Like I said just go out to any street of any city and see around you and tell me you see any civilized people?

Redi walas hogging the road, 2 out of 3 lanes blocked by people parked willy nilly, 90% of the cars on the road couldn't pass roadworthy tests if their life depended on it. Footpaths taken over vendors or used as free display grounds by shop keeper, lets not even talk about traffic. Trash just thrown all over the place, people crossing roads even where there are designated crossings and bridges, children riding motorbikes a far too common sight all across the country so on and so forth. None of which happen in a civilized society, maybe you've never been or lived in a civilized country so you think what you see around you is civilized.

 

[Saladin A]

I can see the pain in your comments of a true patriotic Pakistani, Just like many
others, It feels terrible when you hear any bad news from Pakistan. e.g.Lahore
accident, where this ********* ,killed 6 family members just because he was
out of his mind due to his family wealth.

We always overestimate the change that will occur in the next two years and underestimate the change that will occur in the next ten. Don't let yourself be lulled into inaction.

But i am very optimistic, at least we are heading in the right direction, remember, a path to success is not a straight linear curve, but zig zag, where when you take a step back, then you will see gradual progress.

If you look back at the last 18 months, it may look like we are going in the wrong direction. but if you look at the last 15 years, as a nation we have made a lot of progress, and we have a basic understanding of who is to blame for Pakistan's current circumstances. In 2010, no one in the general public would have accepted that the Army officers were to blame for everything. The way bloggers are discussing Army corruption openly, in 2010, they would be dead within a week. The stand that Imran khan has taken against them, he would have been dead a long time ago.

Whenever power dynamics change in any society, it goes through a period of chaos, and violence e.g. French Revolution, the American Civil War etc. Because of the modern age of information, we are going through this process a lot faster. Where it took countries a few centuries, we are doing in decades.

It is one-way journey, when people progress in their thinking, it can not be reversed

I agree with your comments and views but would add that the time has come for millions of patriotic Pakistanis to come out in the streets and fight and demonstrate against the vindictive, intransigent, sadistic, barbaric, scaremongering and hatemongering attitude of the corrupt generals ruling the country by proxy installing the wretchedly PDM convicts, caretaker cabinet ministers, police IGs, judiciary & bureaucrats and drag them from their offices and try them in 'People's Courts' for their heinous crimes against thousands of innocent PTI supporters and workers and its leaders smashing, breaking into, vandalizing, brutalizing, victimizing & molesting their women folks young & old folks , children and elderly without any mercy and total impunity.

If these brutalities, barbarities, rascalities and stomach-churning are not stopped when 85% of Pakistan's masses are sick and tired of this victimization, we will have to wait for many decades before the nation is united again against the corrupt elite ruling us forthe last six decades.

 

[Saladin A]

None of those traits have anything to do with being civilized, I can have none of those traits and yet be civilized. Like I said just go out to any street of any city and see around you and tell me you see any civilized people?

Redi walas hogging the road, 2 out of 3 lanes blocked by people parked willy nilly, 90% of the cars on the road couldn't pass roadworthy tests if their life depended on it. Footpaths taken over vendors or used as free display grounds by shop keeper, lets not even talk about traffic. Trash just thrown all over the place, people crossing roads even where there are designated crossings and bridges, children riding motorbikes a far too common sight all across the country so on and so forth. None of which happen in a civilized society, maybe you've never been or lived in a civilized country so you think what you see around you is civilized.

In Western societies, young children in nursery classes are taken out on the roads by their teachers to learn about traffic rules, laws, awareness, observance and to obey them. It is from a very early age their citizens learn to obey not only traffic laws regarding motoring, walking on a footpath, crossing a road or trespassing on people's property and violating pedestrians' right to walk safely and securely with the fear of being injured or killed by a motorist, rickshaw wala, rarri-wala or a motorcyclist. The fact of the matter is that our corrupt governments for the last seven decades never even tried to improve the masses' living standards, eradicate illiteracy, and educate them on how to live a hygienic and healthy life and modernize the medieval latrine (toilet) system where the sewage flows in the open drains. The corrupt rulers of the past never wanted to improve how the abjectly poor live and the only leader, PM Imran Khan who tried to do something for the poor masses was brutally toppled by the corrupt military junta of ex-COAS General Bajwa and his PDM leaders.

 

[Citizen X]

In Western societies, young children in nursery classes are taken out on the roads by their teachers to learn about traffic rules, laws, awareness, observance and to obey them. It is from a very early age their citizens learn to obey not only traffic laws regarding motoring, walking on a footpath, crossing a road or trespassing on people's property and violating pedestrians' right to walk safely and securely with the fear of being injured or killed by a motorist, rickshaw wala, rarri-wala or a motorcyclist. The fact of the matter is that our corrupt governments for the last seven decades never even tried to improve the masses' living standards, eradicate illiteracy, and educate them on how to live a hygienic and healthy life and modernize the medieval latrine (toilet) system where the sewage flows in the open drains. The corrupt rulers of the past never wanted to improve how the abjectly poor live and the only leader, PM Imran Khan who tried to do something for the poor masses was brutally toppled by the corrupt military junta of ex-COAS General Bajwa and his PDM leaders.

Look man the govt is fucked and leaders corrupt blah blah blah we all know that and agree, but no one has to teach you not to throw trash everywhere or for you not to know it is not right to block a foothpath or street to set up your redi or shop. No one has to tell you not to send your young children out on motorcycles with no knowledge of traffic rules and regulations for household errands, no one has to tell you that is it wrong to adulterate food, no one has to tell you its defraud people.

As an example You can still go to Sri Lanka without much of a hassle and its a poor and corrupt country like us, but you wont find it dirty and trashy, even if you go to the poor shanty type towns, the gullies will be clear and clean, houses looking neat for what they are. in fact much better than many colonies in Karachi.

So yeah absolving yourself of everything just because the govt is corrupt is a lame excuse!

 

[Solomon2]

What is it that makes a country "civilized"?

 

[abdlsy]

Every patriotic Pakistani must speak out and fight against the brutalities, deviltries, barbarities, tyrannies, atrocities and rascalities committed against PM Imran Khan and PTI leadership, workers and millions of its supporters by the corrupt military junta ruling the country by proxy and their cronies in the fascist PDM, judiciary, police force and bureaucracy. Just imagine the sordid and treacherous mentality and entropic cognition of the corrupt generals, judges and bureaucrats who are conspiring to instal one of the world's most notoriously corrupt men, convicts, mafia dons and looters of trillions of rupees from state exchequer Nawaz Shariff to become the next PM of Pakistan by every hook or crook and at any cost.

It should be the corrupt, dishonest, immoral, debauched, money-grabbing and commission-grubbing, PDM convicts and the generals, judges, bureaucrats, and police IGs, who should be prosecuted for treason and not PM, Imran Khan.

Just do dua

in quran many tribes came n did not follow the basic rights of humans and were turned to ash.

After finding the truth of army gens the powerful via IK speeches no entity left in pakistan all are corrupt and jhootae.

Ubh khali dua kee zaroorut orr kuch nahee sad but true.