Kaaba in the Qur'an

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Wrong analogy as both are committing Shirk. Where does it say in the Qur'an to face the Kaaba for praying?

The directive to face the Kaaba during prayer is found in Surah Al-Baqarah, Ayahs 144 and 149-150:

  1. Surah Al-Baqarah (2:144):So from wherever you set out [for prayer, O Muhammad], turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you [believers] are, turn your faces toward it [in prayer]. Indeed, those who have been given the Scripture well know that it is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do.
  2. Surah Al-Baqarah (2:149-150):So from wherever you go out [for prayer, O Muhammad], turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram, and indeed, it is the truth from your Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what you do. And from wherever you go out [for prayer], turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you [believers] may be, turn your faces toward it in order that the people will not have any argument against you, except for those of them who commit wrong; so fear them not but fear Me. And [it is] so I may complete My favor upon you and that you may be guided.
These verses clearly instruct Muslims to face the Kaaba, located in al-Masjid al-Haram, when they perform their prayers.
 

Wake up Pak

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The directive to face the Kaaba during prayer is found in Surah Al-Baqarah, Ayahs 144 and 149-150:

  1. Surah Al-Baqarah (2:144):So from wherever you set out [for prayer, O Muhammad], turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you [believers] are, turn your faces toward it [in prayer]. Indeed, those who have been given the Scripture well know that it is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do.
  2. Surah Al-Baqarah (2:149-150):So from wherever you go out [for prayer, O Muhammad], turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram, and indeed, it is the truth from your Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what you do. And from wherever you go out [for prayer], turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you [believers] may be, turn your faces toward it in order that the people will not have any argument against you, except for those of them who commit wrong; so fear them not but fear Me. And [it is] so I may complete My favor upon you and that you may be guided.
These verses clearly instruct Muslims to face the Kaaba, located in al-Masjid al-Haram, when they perform their prayers.
Once again, the words in the translations which are not found in the Arabic text are added (in brackets).
 

Citizen X

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The directive to face the Kaaba during prayer is found in Surah Al-Baqarah, Ayahs 144 and 149-150:

  1. Surah Al-Baqarah (2:144):So from wherever you set out [for prayer, O Muhammad], turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you [believers] are, turn your faces toward it [in prayer]. Indeed, those who have been given the Scripture well know that it is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do.
  2. Surah Al-Baqarah (2:149-150):So from wherever you go out [for prayer, O Muhammad], turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram, and indeed, it is the truth from your Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what you do. And from wherever you go out [for prayer], turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you [believers] may be, turn your faces toward it in order that the people will not have any argument against you, except for those of them who commit wrong; so fear them not but fear Me. And [it is] so I may complete My favor upon you and that you may be guided.
These verses clearly instruct Muslims to face the Kaaba, located in al-Masjid al-Haram, when they perform their prayers.
 

Wake up Pak

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The directive to face the Kaaba during prayer is found in Surah Al-Baqarah, Ayahs 144 and 149-150:

  1. Surah Al-Baqarah (2:144):So from wherever you set out [for prayer, O Muhammad], turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you [believers] are, turn your faces toward it [in prayer]. Indeed, those who have been given the Scripture well know that it is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do.
  2. Surah Al-Baqarah (2:149-150):So from wherever you go out [for prayer, O Muhammad], turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram, and indeed, it is the truth from your Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what you do. And from wherever you go out [for prayer], turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you [believers] may be, turn your faces toward it in order that the people will not have any argument against you, except for those of them who commit wrong; so fear them not but fear Me. And [it is] so I may complete My favor upon you and that you may be guided.
These verses clearly instruct Muslims to face the Kaaba, located in al-Masjid al-Haram, when they perform their prayers.
We do not have much choice. That is the short answer. Why are we Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Sunnis, Shiahs, or Jews? The answer for the vast majority of us is because we were born into families that were already professing one of these religions. It is as simple as that. Few of us question what our parents and grandparents taught us. We just follow our parents.
Hindus put ash on their foreheads and pray to stone carvings which they believe represent their gods. They do this because their parents taught them to. A stone carving of a human shape with an elephant’s head for example is representative of a Hindu god.
Others like the Sunnis and Shiahs may find such beliefs illogical. Why? They were born into families where parents teach their children to pray toward a stone building in Mecca which they call the Kaaba. The Sunnis and Shiahs also kiss a black stone that is embedded into one corner of the Kaaba. To the Sunni and Shiah the Hindu representation of god in the form of a stone that looks like a human and elephant hybrid is not acceptable. To them praying towards a stone structure but in the shape of a cube is more logical.
Then comes the Christian who feels that the Sunni, Shiah, and Hindu prayers facing stone structures are all illogical because he has been taught by his parents that a Christian prays towards a cross which may be made of stone or wood. Or he may even pray towards a stone carving of a human form of Jesus or his mother Mary. To the Christian, this is more logical.
Then comes the Jew who says his ultimate holy of holies is a stone wall in Jerusalem. His parents have taught him to nod his head and rock his body to and fro in a wailing motion in front of his Wailing Wall. Praying facing a stone wall makes better sense to the Jew rather than praying to face a cross, a stone building, or a stone carving of a man-elephant hybrid.
Each person who is born into a Sunni, Shiah, Hindu, Christian, or Jewish household will defend his religion to the hilt simply because he was born into the religion. There are converts of course who convert out of choice but once converted their descendants are automatically born into the adopted religion of their fathers.
We believe and uphold our religions so much because we inherit our religions from our parents. What does the Koran say about inheriting religion from our parents?

2:170 And when it is said to them, Follow what Allah has revealed, they say: Nay! We follow what we found our fathers upon. What! And though their fathers had no sense at all, nor did they follow the right way.
 

Wake up Pak

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No brackets when Masjid Haram.was mentioned.
The Hajj is not to walk around a square man-made building seven times.
There is no evidence in the Quran that Ibrahim built the Kaaba or as in some ahadith, it says that Adam built it.
There is nothing in history that Ibrahim and his successive Prophets ever performed the ritual Hajj.

Bowing and prostrating to a building is tantamount to shirk.
 

Citizen X

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The Hajj is not to walk around a square man-made building seven times.
There is no evidence in the Quran that Ibrahim built the Kaaba or as in some ahadith, it says that Adam built it.
There is nothing in history that Ibrahim and his successive Prophets ever performed the ritual Hajj.

Bowing and prostrating to a building is tantamount to shirk.
Agreed
 

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