Why did no country stand with Imran Khan and PTI for democracy?

alimohsan52

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The PDM parties who lost the elections and have now forced through constitution amendments that will make the judiciary subservient. This is very bad news for all decent Pakistanis. The Supreme court and independent judiciary has now been finished. It is heart breaking to see corrupt dynastic parties such as PPP and PMLN lead Pakistan along with Asim Munir into a hole.

But the bigger question with all this injustice happening? Why has no country stood up for democracy in Pakistan, PTI and Imran Khan? Has Imran Khan annoyed all the western world, China and the Arab countries so much that no one wanted to stand up for him? Did Imran Khan get too carried away with the Russia issue and the visit to Russia with the Ukraine war being launched on the same day cause him immense damage, and led to his cards being marked by western nations?

Modi undertook visits to Ukraine and has used diplomacy to balance its interests between Russia and the West. Could this call in to question how Imran Khan has been poor at diplomacy. Secondly has his soft corner for the Taliban also led to his image being damaged in the Western International community?

Could have Imran Khan been more diplomatic to balance and manage ties with the western democracies? This poor diplomacy has surely given space to the PPP, PMLN and the Military to use as a tool against him. With Pakistan being so dependent on IMF, loans, EU and US export market and Investment anyone who appears to be hostile to western interests is not going to gain their favour. Surely this calls for better diplomacy to rebuild ties with the west.

Afterall, Pakistan does need an honest leader like Imran Khan
 

Raiwind-Destroyer

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
There are two zombi position in Pakistan now first it was president of pakistan now it's chief justice of pakistan

Napaak yahodi fooj wins again
 

alimohsan52

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Pakistan is by design been fucked over and over by putting compromised leaders and napaak yahodi fooj generals
That is different matter, obviously PMLN, PPP and Army generals are corrupt. But we have to be practical and Pakistan is heavily dependent on the west. Keeping this in mind, I think Imran Khan should rebuild ties with the west, where so may overseas Pakistanis live. Otherwise it appears, his cards will continue to be marked. It will also give space to these corrupt elements.
 

patwari_sab

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
napak soor fouj ka kabza hai is mulk par. amreeka ki ji hazori me $$$ generals hamesha se agey hote hein. phir kon IK ka sath dega.. rahi bath democracy ki to is mulk me Fouj wadera choudhry alliance hai
 

Raiwind-Destroyer

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
That is different matter, obviously PMLN, PPP and Army generals are corrupt. But we have to be practical and Pakistan is heavily dependent on the west. Keeping this in mind, I think Imran Khan should rebuild ties with the west, where so may overseas Pakistanis live. Otherwise it appears, his cards will continue to be marked. It will also give space to these corrupt elements.
Imran khan only have two options after this napaak yahodi fooj will either get him compromised or kill him that's the only solution

Pakistan parliment is under napaak yahodi fooj and courts are fuked forever
 

ahameed

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Pehle ye batao:

Why did no youthee stand with Imran Khan and PTI?
That is different matter, obviously PMLN, PPP and Army generals are corrupt. But we have to be practical and Pakistan is heavily dependent on the west. Keeping this in mind, I think Imran Khan should rebuild ties with the west, where so may overseas Pakistanis live. Otherwise it appears, his cards will continue to be marked. It will also give space to these corrupt elements.

یہ جھوٹ ہے کہ عوام نیازی کے ساتھ نہیں کھڑی ہوئی

عوام نے بغیر الیکشن کیمپین کے ایک سو اسی کے قریب سیٹیں نیازی کو دیں الیکشن میں جن کو عاسم یزید نے جعلی فارم ۴۷ بنا کر عوامی مینڈیٹ چوری کیا
 

alimohsan52

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
یہ جھوٹ ہے کہ عوام نیازی کے ساتھ نہیں کھڑی ہوئی

عوام نے بغیر الیکشن کیمپین کے ایک سو اسی کے قریب سیٹیں نیازی کو دیں الیکشن میں جن کو عاسم یزید نے جعلی فارم ۴۷ بنا کر عوامی مینڈیٹ چوری کیا
Of course, the public voted for him and give him 2/3rds majority. There is no doubt about.

What I am saying his failure to garner international support which is essential for a dependent country like Pakistan. I am saying he should have managed diplomacy better. His open confrontation with the west on Ukraine matter gave space to corrupt PPP, PMLN and Military
 

Islamabadiya

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The PDM parties who lost the elections and have now forced through constitution amendments that will make the judiciary subservient. This is very bad news for all decent Pakistanis. The Supreme court and independent judiciary has now been finished. It is heart breaking to see corrupt dynastic parties such as PPP and PMLN lead Pakistan along with Asim Munir into a hole.

But the bigger question with all this injustice happening? Why has no country stood up for democracy in Pakistan, PTI and Imran Khan? Has Imran Khan annoyed all the western world, China and the Arab countries so much that no one wanted to stand up for him? Did Imran Khan get too carried away with the Russia issue and the visit to Russia with the Ukraine war being launched on the same day cause him immense damage, and led to his cards being marked by western nations?

Modi undertook visits to Ukraine and has used diplomacy to balance its interests between Russia and the West. Could this call in to question how Imran Khan has been poor at diplomacy. Secondly has his soft corner for the Taliban also led to his image being damaged in the Western International community?

Could have Imran Khan been more diplomatic to balance and manage ties with the western democracies? This poor diplomacy has surely given space to the PPP, PMLN and the Military to use as a tool against him. With Pakistan being so dependent on IMF, loans, EU and US export market and Investment anyone who appears to be hostile to western interests is not going to gain their favour. Surely this calls for better diplomacy to rebuild ties with the west.

Afterall, Pakistan does need an honest leader like Imran Khan

How will Judiciary become subservient?
 

ahameed

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Of course, the public voted for him and give him 2/3rds majority. There is no doubt about.

What I am saying his failure to garner international support which is essential for a dependent country like Pakistan. I am saying he should have managed diplomacy better. His open confrontation with the west on Ukraine matter gave space to corrupt PPP, PMLN and Military

اس نے تو نیوٹرل رہنے کا بولا تھا نہ کہ کوئی کنفرٹریشن کی

باقی چائنہ، سعودیہ اور یواےای والے کب سے کہہ رہے ہیں عاسم یزید کو کہ یہ لڑائی بند کرو اب وہ نہ سننا چاہے تو وہ کیا کریں؟؟؟
 

alimohsan52

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
اس نے تو نیوٹرل رہنے کا بولا تھا نہ کہ کوئی کنفرٹریشن کی

باقی چائنہ، سعودیہ اور یواےای والے کب سے کہہ رہے ہیں عاسم یزید کو کہ یہ لڑائی بند کرو اب وہ نہ سننا چاہے تو وہ کیا کریں؟؟؟
He should not have visited Russia, he should have used diplomacy and not gone public against the west. This gave space to the Military and all these corrupt parties to use against him.

Secondly his soft stance on the Taliban, has also been used against him. Imran Khan should have seen the bigger picture and managed its interest like Modi did with visits to Ukraine. Standing in Russia with the war announcement was very bad optics from a neutrality point of view.

Again try to understand the Internal enemies used all this against Imran
 

ahameed

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
How will Judiciary become subservient?
ٹاپ تھری جج پورے تین سال حکومت اور اسٹیبلشمنٹ کو خوش رکھنے کی کوشش میں لگے رہیں گے تاکہ جب تین سال بعد نمبر آئے تو وہ چیف بن سکے

سپریم کورٹ مکمل طور پر اسٹیبلشمنٹ کے کنٹرول میں جاچکی ہے قاضی فائز عیسی اور شریفوں زرداریوں کی مہربانی سے
 

alimohsan52

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Koi milk kiun saath dey ga.
Ye to Pakistan k Awaam ko karna tha.
Agar mulk k log ghulaam ban kar jeena chaahtay hain to kisi aur mulk keya pari hai.
This is the problem with majority of the people in Pakistan, you have no concept of interdependent world. All the PDM parties/Military have managed to use Imran's poor diplomacy and soft corner for Taliban to paint a bad picture of him to western leaders. They have been clever and PTI has not realised what hit them?
 

ahameed

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
He should not have visited Russia, he should have used diplomacy and not gone public against the west. This gave space to the Military and all these corrupt parties to use against him.

Secondly his soft stance on the Taliban, has also been used against him. Imran Khan should have seen the bigger picture and managed its interest like Modi did with visits to Ukraine. Standing in Russia with the war announcement was very bad optics from a neutrality point of view.

Again try to understand the Internal enemies used all this against Imran
اگر روس جانا غلطی تھی تو فوج اور آئی ایس آئی کی ناکامی تھی کہ جس دن روس پہنچا اگلے دن جنگ شروع ہوگئی

جنگ کے دوران جاتا تو اس کی غلطی تھی

باقی ویسٹ کو نیوٹرل بندہ نہیں چاہئے تھا اس وقت بلکہ اپنا حواری چاہئے تھا
 

Melanthus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Pehle ye batao:

Why did no youthee stand with Imran Khan and PTI?
They did stand with him.PTI won a big majority in 2024 elections.Harami generals tortured,imprisoned and destroyed businesses and properties belonging to PTI leaders and workers.They threatened their families.The generals subdued the people using brutal force.
China’s stated policy is that it does not interfere in any countries internal affairs.US and west only support those who are willing to kow tow to them.Nawaz and Zardari dakoos are threat to US and the west.They are assets of atheists west and India.US does not tolerate any leader who wants to follow an independent policy.CIA has overthrown or assassinated many leaders who refused to take orders from America.For those who are interested they should read the following
Stephen Kinzer's book Overthrow:America’s Century of Regime Chsnge.
It provides a fast-paced narrative history of the coups, revolutions, and invasions by which the United States has toppled fourteen foreign governments.
Also read
 

ahameed

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This is the problem with majority of the people in Pakistan, you have no concept of interdependent world. All the PDM parties/Military have managed to use Imran's poor diplomacy and soft corner for Taliban to paint a bad picture of him to western leaders. They have been clever and PTI has not realised what hit them?
Koi milk kiun saath dey ga.
Ye to Pakistan k Awaam ko karna tha.
Agar mulk k log ghulaam ban kar jeena chaahtay hain to kisi aur mulk keya pari hai.
چائنہ سعودیہ اور یو اے ای بہت دفعہ بول چکے کہ سیاسی استحکام لاؤ حالات بہتر بنانے کے لئے لیکن اگر عاسم یزید ڈفر بن کر نہ سنے تو وہ کیا کرسکتے ہیں؟؟؟
 

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