Will Pakistani Establishment Change its Course?

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

"Will Pakistani Establishment Change its Course?"​


No. because that would mean giving away riches.. dollars.. huge farm houses..etc etc
Basically they are nawaz and zardari in uniforms..
Very true.

But the counter argument is.... Will PTI change its course too?
I mean the modus operandi, not the vision or the purpose.
 

FahadBhatti

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What more peaceful protestors do ? Other than gather in huge number for the just cause. If the army hell bent on killing then the people do not have enough weaponry to face them.
From today though , army families will not be safe. Their wives and kids will face the peoples rage.
 

monkk

Senator (1k+ posts)
Very true.

But the counter argument is.... Will PTI change its course too?
I mean the modus operandi, not the vision or the purpose.

I hope its PTI. But I feel like its only IK. IK is what they call "black swan" event in pakistan.
With out him I don't know what PTI would be.. perhaps narrators of "the time when paksitan almost was put on right track"

This bitch army and bitch ISI too deep in control of every thing including PTI leaders.
I fear there is no other course of action for PTI.

As long as people of pakistan can buy patrol and electricity these leaches(army,ISI) are not going to give up.
 

monkk

Senator (1k+ posts)
What more peaceful protestors do ? Other than gather in huge number for the just cause. If the army hell bent on killing then the people do not have enough weaponry to face them.
From today though , army families will not be safe. Their wives and kids will face the peoples rage.

Perhaps time for another "do qaumi nazria"
Pathans are going to fuck the army up...they have attitude,foresight and weaponry.
Panjabi are going get fucked by army.. the way were being fucked by police.
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What more peaceful protestors do ? Other than gather in huge number for the just cause. If the army hell bent on killing then the people do not have enough weaponry to face them.
From today though , army families will not be safe. Their wives and kids will face the peoples rage.
The question is .... why they did not agree on the venue of Sangjani, as agreed upon by the Govt too?

If they were showing actions of rebellion, then they provided the state with every possible excuse to use brute force against them.

Wouldn't it be better to first stage a protest at Sangjani and see if the Government is ready for a political dialogue? and also give time to the protesters to gather in larger numbers there?

What was the actual plan? that they are going to stage a sit in at D-Chowk and Govt will release IK unconditionally?
 

Rambler

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The question is .... why they did not agree on the venue of Sangjani, as agreed upon by the Govt too?

If they were showing actions of rebellion, then they provided the state with every possible excuse to use brute force against them.

Wouldn't it be better to first stage a protest at Sangjani and see if the Government is ready for a political dialogue? and also give time to the protesters to gather in larger numbers there?

What was the actual plan? that they are going to stage a sit in at D-Chowk and Govt will release IK unconditionally?

او بھائی تم پتہ نہی کس دنیا میں رہتے ہو - گھر بیٹھے سٹریٹجی بناتے رہتے ہو۔ یہ کام انٹیلیکچولز کا نہ کے تمہارے میرے ادھے عقل کے لوگوں کا ہے۔ اگر تمہارے میرے جیسے گھر بیٹھے لوزرز پرکٹیکلی بیخوف ہو کے اپنا حصہ ڈالیں تو یہ مافیا دو دن بھی نہی نکال سکتا لیکن نہی ہم نے خد کچھ نھی کرنا بس انٹرنٹ پے بیٹھ کے یبلیاں مارنی ہیں اور اپنا فالتو وقت پاس کرنا ہے
 

Sarkash

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

"Will Pakistani Establishment Change its Course?"​


No. because that would mean giving away riches.. dollars.. huge farm houses..etc etc
Basically they are nawaz and zardari in uniforms..
Correction, Nawaz Zardari and Co are extension of Army. There is no establishment in Pakistan, it has always been the Army that was the problem.

Bhutto was Ayub's son
Nawaz was Zia's son
Altaf was Zia's son
MMA was children of Musharraf

now you see all of them on supporting Army's illegal acts.
 

FahadBhatti

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The question is .... why they did not agree on the venue of Sangjani, as agreed upon by the Govt too?

If they were showing actions of rebellion, then they provided the state with every possible excuse to use brute force against them.

Wouldn't it be better to first stage a protest at Sangjani and see if the Government is ready for a political dialogue? and also give time to the protesters to gather in larger numbers there?

What was the actual plan? that they are going to stage a sit in at D-Chowk and Govt will release IK unconditionally?
Why? Isnt it a free country?

They can protest anywhere , d chowk , in front of ghq or anywhere. Its a democratic right. Only dictators use brute force against unarmed protestors.
 

cheema lahori

MPA (400+ posts)
مقبوضہ پاکستان ساری زندگی ہم کو مقبوضہ کشمیر پڑھاتے رہے اور خود پاکستان پر قبضہ جمائے رکھا ہم سب بزدل کو ہم ہیں میں بھی اس میں شامل ہوں ہم سوائے ایک غلام کے کچھ نہیں ہیں مبارک ہو غلام ابن غلام مقبوضہ پاکستان میں یہ غلامی مبارک ہو
 

cheema lahori

MPA (400+ posts)
اس فوج کو یہ ٹریننگ دی جاتی ہے کہ اس نے 25 کروڑ عوام کو کیسے کنٹرول کرنا ہے ہم اپنے ہی ملک میں غلاموں کی طرح رہ رہے ہیں ہمیں انسان کہلانے کا حق نہیں ہے کہ جو لوگوں کی لاشوں کے اوپر ہنس رہے ہیں اج تو انہوں نے اپنی عوام کو فتح کر لیا ہے لیکن یاد رکھنا بہت جلد یہ افیر مبارک گھروں پر بھی چڑھ دوڑے گا اس فوجی نامی جانور سے کوئی گھر میں محفوظ نہیں رہے گا ہم مقبوضہ ہو چکے ہیں یہ بات ہم کو تسلیم کرنی پڑے گی کیونکہ یہاں پر پرامن جدوجہد کا کوئی راستہ انہوں نے نہیں چھوڑا اج ہم پر قبضہ ہو گیا ہے ہم مقبوضہ پاکستان کے شہری ہیں
 

cheema lahori

MPA (400+ posts)
اب یہ سوچیں کہ ہم نے کس ملک میں جانا ہے یا یہیں پر جانوروں کی طرح زندگی بسر کرنی ہے کیونکہ انسانوں کے سارے حقوق انہوں نے ہم سے چھین لیے ہیں
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Why? Isnt it a free country?
What is the name of your movement? Haqeeqi Azadi? Why?

They can protest anywhere , d chowk , in front of ghq or anywhere. Its a democratic right. Only dictators use brute force against unarmed protestors.
Well that is your opinion. I respect it, however, no law in the entire world supports this.

In the west, usually governments are lax over this and Usually do not exercise this power, unless extremely necessary, as you might have seen how Trump supporters were curbed from protesting in front of the White House when JB was sworn in, after the Capitol Hill incident. The Army was also called in.
 

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