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observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
There are also hadith qudsi which are the words of Allah. You reject those too I believe. Allah has inspired to Messenger SAW in that form too not only Quran.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
There are also hadith qudsi which are the words of Allah. You reject those too I believe. Allah has inspired to Messenger SAW in that form too not only Quran.
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 Yeah bhaand moulviyon ek alag hi ijad hai. Hadith Qudsi!!!

Allah is very clear and specific that there will be no revelation after the Quran.
"This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as your religion."
— Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:3)

So obviously anything that comes after the Quran which says it has completed the deen and is a complete and fully detailed book is not from Allah but from Shaitan and bhaand moulvis

And if Allah had wanted he could have sent down many more books because he is not short for words.

"Say, 'If the sea were ink for [writing] the words of my Lord, the sea would be exhausted before the words of my Lord were exhausted, even if We brought the like of it as a supplement.'"
(Qur'an 18:109)

But he did not because the Quran is enough, but these bhaand sunnis had bring in almost 100,000 more narrations in to corrupt Islam and even worse claiming some of them are divine revelation like the Quran ( Astaghfirullah)

And then these bozos cry and get angry when you call them Mushriks.
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 Yeah bhaand moulviyon ek alag hi ijad hai. Hadith Qudsi!!!

Allah is very clear and specific that there will be no revelation after the Quran.
"This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as your religion."
— Surah Al-Ma'idah (5:3)

So obviously anything that comes after the Quran which says it has completed the deen and is a complete and fully detailed book is not from Allah but from Shaitan and bhaand moulvis

And if Allah had wanted he could have sent down many more books because he is not short for words.

"Say, 'If the sea were ink for [writing] the words of my Lord, the sea would be exhausted before the words of my Lord were exhausted, even if We brought the like of it as a supplement.'"
(Qur'an 18:109)

But he did not because the Quran is enough, but these bhaand sunnis had bring in almost 100,000 more narrations in to corrupt Islam and even worse claiming some of them are divine revelation like the Quran ( Astaghfirullah)

And then these bozos cry and get angry when you call them Mushriks.
So you reject Hadith Qudsi which is not the words of Messenger SAW but of Allah instead?

Just waiting for a day when you'll start rejecting Quran as well. That day is not far from you.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
I feel sorry for your intellect and hence the dumb analogy.
Jahil zindeeq mushrik oBozo X go learn the meaning of the word analogy. I asked you a simple Question. Where did I ever present and analogy.

Who told you to be a follower of the Rasool, Ahl ul bait, sahaba, tabieen and taba tabieen?
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
So you reject Hadith Qudsi which is not the words of Messenger SAW but of Allah instead?
1001% reject it.

And who told you that it is a divine revelation? Did the Quran says there will be other scripture after the Quran.

This is just more bhandism from you sunnis!
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
Let's see how many more things you reject about Islam.
  1. Messenger SAW and his اطاعت
  2. Sunnah and hadith
  3. Life in Grave - barzakh
  4. Life after death
  5. Jannah
  6. Jahannam
  7. Worship of Allah - Salah
  8. Saum - Fasting
  9. Hajj
  10. Zakah
  11. Kalimah - Shahadah
  12. Supplications like masnoon azkar
What do you call Islam then for you devoid of all the above?
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Let's see how many more things you reject about Islam.
  1. Messenger SAW and his اطاعت
  2. Sunnah and hadith
  3. Life in Grave - barzakh
  4. Life after death
  5. Jannah
  6. Jahannam
  7. Worship of Allah - Salah
  8. Saum - Fasting
  9. Hajj
  10. Zakah
  11. Kalimah - Shahadah
  12. Supplications like masnoon azkar
What do you call Islam then for you devoid of all the above?
Phir apnay pallo bongiya! The only people who reject the Prophet are you Mushriks who have turned him from a messenger of God to some demi god. Whose grave you worship and sing songs about him 24/7/365.

Only Sunnah mentioned in the Quran to follow is the Sunnah of Allah, another challenge for you mushriks, find my anywhere in the Quran where it says we have to follow and obey the rasool or follow the rasool's hadith

This life in grave, 5 time shirk yoga, staying hungry for a month for no good reason, imaginary 2.5% tax, some shirky mantra if you don't recite it you cannot be muslim etc etc is all an innovation from your garbage books. The Quran is void of all this nonsense.

By the way assuming you were born a Muslim, have you ever recited your shirk inducing Sahada? Where you insult Allah by putting our beloved Prophet on the same level as him and if you don't take his name in this mantra you cannot be a Muslim? But then again you do this shirk 5 times a day so once in a lifetime is not a big deal for you mushriks.
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
You think only way you can win an argument is by using cuss words. Be my guest Citizen X .

I can tell how mad you are. Mind it, you'll be given maximum deterrence over your preaching of misguidance to young folks here.
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
Phir apnay pallo bongiya! The only people who reject the Prophet are you Mushriks who have turned him from a messenger of God to some demi god. Whose grave you worship and sing songs about him 24/7/365.

Only Sunnah mentioned in the Quran to follow is the Sunnah of Allah, another challenge for you mushriks, find my anywhere in the Quran where it says we have to follow and obey the rasool or follow the rasool's hadith

This life in grave, 5 time shirk yoga, staying hungry for a month for no good reason, imaginary 2.5% tax, some shirky mantra if you don't recite it you cannot be muslim etc etc is all an innovation from your garbage books. The Quran is void of all this nonsense.

By the way assuming you were born a Muslim, have you ever recited your shirk inducing Sahada? Where you insult Allah by putting our beloved Prophet on the same level as him and if you don't take his name in this mantra you cannot be a Muslim? But then again you do this shirk 5 times a day so once in a lifetime is not a big deal for you mushriks.
Now you've rejected all the tenants of Islam. Good everybody can see it.

Show me your Islam.
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
Citizen X
  1. Show your version of Islam
  2. Show who has implemented your version of Islam in the history with examples
  3. How are the following things done in your version of Islam:
    1. Worship of Allah
    2. Family laws/ inheritance
    3. Aadab (day to day social behaviors)
    4. Eating guidelines (halal /haram)
    5. Marriage
    6. Divorce
    7. Rituals for dead
These are just few, its a huge list otherwise.
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Wake up Pak The only thing you should be worried about is not what's in the hadith but what if what you're rejecting turned out to be true? Because only Allah has the absolute knowledge.
Listen, baby, just answer me one question: Did Allah reveal the Quran or Ahadith of Rasool Allah?
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
Citizen X
  1. Show your version of Islam
  2. Show who has implemented your version of Islam in the history with examples
  3. How are the following things done in your version of Islam:
    1. Worship of Allah
    2. Family laws/ inheritance
    3. Aadab (day to day social behaviors)
    4. Eating guidelines (halal /haram)
    5. Marriage
    6. Divorce
    7. Rituals for dead
These are just few, its a huge list otherwise.
answer this...
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Now you've rejected all the tenants of Islam. Good everybody can see it.

Show me your Islam.
Show me where these tenants of your hadith corrupted Islam are in the Quran? Where is your 2.5% zakat, 5 time ritual namaz, you sahada ( which you have never said with the intention of accepting Islam since you were born a muslim, hence you are a kaffir according to your own beliefs ) there is no hajj which involves going around the kabba and throwing stones at stones etc etc

You want to see my Islam, go read the Quran, everything is in there. I know you sunni mushriks are allergic to the Quran but trust me the actual deen of Allah is in there not your garbage books.

As for who implemented the actual Islam of Allah as mentioned in the Quran.

All the Prophets including the Prophet Muhammad himself. He did not follow any hadith of Prophet Ibrahim? He followed the millat of Prophet Ibrahim as mentioned in the Quran. He did not need any hadith books written by Jews centuries after Prophet Ibrahim had died.

All the Sahabas and early Muslims until your Irani babas and Imams came and corrupted Islam. And divided Islam into madhabs and sects
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
Show me where these tenants of your hadith corrupted Islam are in the Quran? Where is your 2.5% zakat, 5 time ritual namaz, you sahada ( which you have never said with the intention of accepting Islam since you were born a muslim, hence you are a kaffir according to your own beliefs ) there is no hajj which involves going around the kabba and throwing stones at stones etc etc

You want to see my Islam, go read the Quran, everything is in there. I know you sunni mushriks are allergic to the Quran but trust me the actual deen of Allah is in there not your garbage books.

As for who implemented the actual Islam of Allah as mentioned in the Quran.

All the Prophets including the Prophet Muhammad himself. He did not follow any hadith of Prophet Ibrahim? He followed the millat of Prophet Ibrahim as mentioned in the Quran. He did not need any hadith books written by Jews centuries after Prophet Ibrahim had died.

All the Sahabas and early Muslims until your Irani babas and Imams came and corrupted Islam. And divided Islam into madhabs and sects
Don't have to go round and round in circles. Just say your version of whatever religion you're following has no rituals.
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
Oh man you're so dumb you need to learn basic selling skills too. Whatever product you're selling at least have a product specification for it. You can't sell a product just by criticizing a competitor's product.

If you have your version of your religion, show its details on how you implement it in your life.
 

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