Objection: Quran is not Understandable without Hadith

Citizen X

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I love your shooting in the dark. Finding targets all 360 degrees. 😝😝

Coz I love Parwezi quotes so much I don't even have to bother saying anything. I can just quote Parwezi golden words of no ritual religion.

Just sitting on your asses and do nothing - type religion 😁😆.
LOL will go on for pages and pages about childish nonsense but can't answer one simple question. I guess your mind gets filled with such nonsense when you keep following your garbage books filled with mystical fairytales.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Just sitting on your asses and do nothing - type religion
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 Idiot thinks religion is supposed to be somekind of punishment, when one constantly has be tortured or keep doing someking of physical labour. If thats the case you should become a shia or a hindu pundit a lot of torture, physical labour and tasks in those. So surely they must be the best.
 

Wake up Pak

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This just gets so boring after all this time, now I understand why my friends like Yasir doesn't spare them and from the word go, sahi ka danda de ker rakhta hai, before I use to say that he being unreasonably harsh on them or at least give them a chance first

These mushriks are so predictable and as if they all follow the same script, not one of them misses a single step. Its the same shit. Day in and day out rinse and repeat. Still looking for at least one to come along and make a half decent effort about their stance. But I guess if you take away their hadiths, tafseers and mullahs they are left with nothing and have no choice but to go apeshit crazy.
When discussing the idea of following only the Quran, people often immediately ask how to perform Namaz if you follow the Quran alone. Even if you quote the Quranic verses that the Quran is complete and detailed, they still insist on following the Ahadith & Sunnah.
All the so-called Muslims accept that the Quran is the book of Allah, and yet they do not adhere to the verses of the Quran.
This bozo observer-x is a on different level of stupidity.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
When discussing the idea of following only the Quran, people often immediately ask how to perform Namaz if you follow the Quran alone. Even if you quote the Quranic verses that the Quran is complete and detailed, they still insist on following the Ahadith & Sunnah.
All the so-called Muslims accept that the Quran is the book of Allah, and yet they do not adhere to the verses of the Quran.
This bozo observer-x is a on different level of stupidity.
I call them the Ahl e How do you pray, or Ahl e bukhari. These so called scholars (translation bhaand moulvis) for centuries have been selling this churan that the hadith explains the Quran. And that when ever the Quran says follow the messenger it means follow their garbage books. They have to. If they told everyone that the Quran is fully detailed and explains itself then they would be out of business and most of theirfearly mullahs were living off stipends from the Kings and Ameers and had to do what they say. Just like the bhaand moulvis like Tanker Ashrafi we have today.
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
I call them the Ahl e How do you pray, or Ahl e bukhari. These so called scholars (translation bhaand moulvis) for centuries have been selling this churan that the hadith explains the Quran. And that when ever the Quran says follow the messenger it means follow their garbage books. They have to. If they told everyone that the Quran is fully detailed and explains itself then they would be out of business and most of theirfearly mullahs were living off stipends from the Kings and Ameers and had to do what they say. Just like the bhaand moulvis like Tanker Ashrafi we have today.
I have a simple question to the Ahadith followers: If all the narrators were Muslim, why didn't a single narrator provide complete details on how to perform Namaz? observer-x
 
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Wake up Pak

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A great majority of Muslims in the world are not believers indeed. They think of themselves as believers because they were born into the so-called Muslim families and are being charmed into thinking as such by the Mullahs just because they UTTER believe in God and His Messenger. Mullahs do so because of ignorance and because they want to keep their stranglehold on the masses and protect their false pride, honor, and financial interests. Therefore, the so-called Muslims of today are slaves of false tradition and blind following.
observer-x Citizen X
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
A great majority of Muslims in the world are not believers indeed. They think of themselves as believers because they were born into the so-called Muslim families and are being charmed into thinking as such by the Mullahs just because they UTTER believe in God and His Messenger. Mullahs do so because of ignorance and because they want to keep their stranglehold on the masses and protect their false pride, honor, and financial interests. Therefore, the so-called Muslims of today are slaves of false tradition and blind following.
observer-x Citizen X
12:106 And most of them do not believe in Allah without associating others with Him i.e are mushriks, these are Allah's words. He knew majority of people claim to be Muslims and believe in him will be mushrik as they follow and worship manmade books.

And then they get upset that why they are called Mushriks.
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
This just gets so boring after all this time, now I understand why my friends like Yasir doesn't spare them and from the word go, sahi ka danda de ker rakhta hai, before I use to say that he being unreasonably harsh on them or at least give them a chance first

These mushriks are so predictable and as if they all follow the same script, not one of them misses a single step. Its the same shit. Day in and day out rinse and repeat. Still looking for at least one to come along and make a half decent effort about their stance. But I guess if you take away their hadiths, tafseers and mullahs they are left with nothing and have no choice but to go apeshit crazy.
same old Parwezi script mullah, mushrik, moron....

blah blah blah
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
LOL will go on for pages and pages about childish nonsense but can't answer one simple question. I guess your mind gets filled with such nonsense when you keep following your garbage books filled with mystical fairytales.
You really believe in Allah yet you don't humble yourself before him in worship, how can one be so ungrateful to our Creator, the Most High. He gave you life and gave everything to you ... فَبِأَيِّ آلَاءِ رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 Idiot thinks religion is supposed to be somekind of punishment, when one constantly has be tortured or keep doing someking of physical labour. If thats the case you should become a shia or a hindu pundit a lot of torture, physical labour and tasks in those. So surely they must be the best.
For Parwezis worship is just sitting on their asses, I get it. I wonder how big you back side would have become doing your kind of worship LOL...
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
You really believe in Allah yet you don't humble yourself before him in worship, how can one be so ungrateful to our Creator, the Most High. He gave you life and gave everything to you ... فَبِأَيِّ آلَاءِ رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?
So yeah tell me how do you humble yourself before him in worship?
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Who you're misleading? nobody but yourself sadly.
Are you thick in the skull or something? How am I misleading by asking how do you humble yourself before Allah in worship?

You just don't have an answer, thats why you are avoiding this question like the plague and running away from it like your life depended on it, which it kinda does.
 

observer-x

Councller (250+ posts)
Are you thick in the skull or something? How am I misleading by asking how do you humble yourself before Allah in worship?

You just don't have an answer, thats why you are avoiding this question like the plague and running away from it like your life depended on it, which it kinda does.
Its Parwezis who are in the spotlight for their no-ritual based new religion here. You can't cross question anyone who is a practicing muslim. And don't try to play naive as if you don't know how muslims pray, you were once a practicing muslim yourself.
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Its Parwezis who are in the spotlight for their no-ritual based new religion here. You can't cross question anyone who is a practicing muslim. And don't try to play naive as if you don't know how muslims pray, you were once a practicing muslim yourself.
Then go bother some perwezis whoever or whatever they are! Why are you eating my head 😂 😂

Nothing but excuses and then some more excuses, blah blah this and blah blah that. One can't get any more dodgy than this. Keep running away you little coward.

And this is supposed to be the crème de la crème of the dawah bro gang. Hotel Sex Bro is that you! lol Can't answer one simple question 😂🤣

No wonder they only "debate" with poor passerby laymen who don't know much themselves and everyone knows their stupid debating techniques. Just lazer focus on one small frivlous issue and ignore everything else. When that trick didn't work here and debate went off script, bro started to glitch hard and immediately resorted back to his childish behaviour

He knows if he does answer this simple question he's gonna shoot himself in the foot. And knows very well he cannot prove his imaginary rituals without including his garbage books, because the Quran is void from such frivlous nonsense. He cannot prove his pooja paat of daily yoga, vrat, pheras and mantars is from the deen of the Quran itself.

Thats why this coward is running away
 

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