You Will be in Hell if Your Trousers are Below the Ankle!!!!

Wake up Pak

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Ok so you're not a 'lakeer ka faqeer' coz you got a realization that Allah is not worthy of your worship in any way possible? Not even one prostration for all the things he's given you?
Find a Quranic verse that states rituals should be for the worship of Allah.
 

Wake up Pak

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Whenever it says prostration in Quran, what does it mean for you?
It's not a physical prostration.

Quran 22:18 states: "Do you not see that to Allah prostrates whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth, and the sun, the moon, the stars, the mountains, the trees, the moving creatures and many of the people? But upon many, the punishment has been justified. And he whom Allah humiliates - for him there is no bestower of honor.".
 

observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
It's not a physical prostration.

Quran 22:18 states: "Do you not see that to Allah prostrates whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth, and the sun, the moon, the stars, the mountains, the trees, the moving creatures and many of the people? But upon many, the punishment has been justified. And he whom Allah humiliates - for him there is no bestower of honor.".
Is it the only place prostration is mentioned? (I can understand how you get confused.)
 

observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
Even if we take the literal meanings of prostration, it still does not tell us that it is a form of worship or that it pertains to Namaz.
So you're going with the idea that just like trees do sujood or planets/ stars do sujood, we might as well understand it that way?

Like we don't know the actual mechanism of how they do sujood we might as well just follow those objects?
 

Wake up Pak

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So you're going with the idea that just like trees do sujood or planets/ stars do sujood, we might as well understand it that way?

Like we don't know the actual mechanism of how they do sujood we might as well just follow those objects?
If you could come out of Mullah's man-made Islam, then you might be able to understand what Rakoo and Sajood are. Otherwise, you will keep arguing in vain.
 

observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
If you could come out of Mullah's man-made Islam, then you might be able to understand what Rakoo and Sajood are. Otherwise, you will keep arguing in vain.
Imagine for the sake of argument I am out of it. Now tell me how are we supposed to follow trees/ stars/ planets/ animals way of sujood?
 

Wake up Pak

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Imagine for the sake of argument I am out of it. Now tell me how are we supposed to follow trees/ stars/ planets/ animals way of sujood?
Who is asking you to follow trees, stars, and planets? If you knew the meaning of the Sajood, you wouldn't be asking such a childish question.
 

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