Can Any MQM member tell us what is this ?

Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
zainabia said:
Great heart touching Post brother Spartacus. May Allah bless you. Amin.

I just hope people open their eyes and see the facts instead of flowing in their blind hatred.

Thankx zainabia and PakPatriot1, I realised that most of the people have no idea , what we faced before MQM came in power as a MUHAJIR voice.
That is the reason they did not understand the real fact behind MQM support.
I am always ready to face logical question as I want logical answers too.
They did not see that even Altaf Hussain lost his Brother and Nephew but he forgave this all to get peace in Pakistan.

>>>>>>>>>>>> MERI AAWAZ SUUUNOO<<<<<<<<<<<

Mumkin Hay Taqseem_e_Waqat Main Aasa Bhi Waqt Ho.....Dastuk Ko Teray Haat Barhain Aoor Mera Dur Na Ho
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Spartacus said:
I am not here to teach you or others , I said what I experienced , I said what I see , I said what I am seeing in future......
But some of you use against me or against those who are not in your side, bad langauges like ( stupid , mad , crazy , terrorist , etc etc...).
Do you think that this type of title will help me to change my political position?....NO

First we have to see why people of URBEN SINDH needed a political voice ? Do you have any answer ?...
I am giving you answer of this question....Answer is IDENTITYSee most of you are here....
Pakistani >>>>>> and Punjabi
Pakistani>>>>>>>and Pakhtoon
Pakistani >>>>>>and Sindi
Pakistani>>>>>>and Balouchi
Pakistani>>>>>>and kashmeeri
ETC
ETC
That is why a group whos parents and in my case Grand parents came from India after 1947.
They were only pakistani >>>>> One identity was missing , but they were very happy with this.

After some time there were ethnic disputes came . In East Pakistan , Bengalis demanded more rights according to their population, they demanded their own Governor , their langauge etc etc....
In Balouchistan , Balouchi demanded almost a state without pakistan support.
We were still PAKISTANI , no demand....
In 1960-61 , capital changed from karachi to ISLAMABAD , we did not demand anything till now...
In 1971 , Bangladesh got their freedom.....We are still happy PAKISTANI....
IN 1973 , Z.A.BHUTTU separated sindh into sindh DEHI and sindh Shehri....

Reason he gave that he want that DEHI should get more development with this new QUOTA SYSTEMand with QUOTA SYSTEM both community will get some development.

If this QUOTA SYSTEM was so good , why did he apply only in SINDH.
After this "NA INSAFI " , actually Z.A.BHUTTU pushed us that we should think more than PAKISTANI.
But we were not too much involve in politics , we were divided , we were only a victim and nothing more.

In 1978 , when QUOTA SYSTEM was already 5 years old ...

Because of this 5 years old kid , huge number of MOHAJIRS did not get admission in COLLEGES and universities , even they had more numbers as compare to those who got admission...."NA INSAFI "

This time we were again a victim but with some political knowledge and political awareness.
This time we had a group of students who were ready to fight to get their admission rights.
This time we had Altaf Hussain and his friends , who decided to go to student politics to protect their rights.
11 JUNE 1978 , they based a student political party APMSO ( ALL PAKISTAN MUHAJIR STUDENTS ORGANIZATION)
Now they were not less than others they were equal ...
And only now they were Pakistani >>>> and MOHAJIRS...... WAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO A GREAT DAY ( THANK YOU MR.ALTAF HUSSAIN , you gave us IDENTITY on that day )

Now , MOHAJIRS .....My God >>> Altaf Hussain is divinding Pakistan....
Ohhhh He is Ethnic , rasist , etc etc , and why......, yes ,because he founded a student party with ethnic name....
They were right this MOHAIR was and still showing a group ( Ethnic Group )
But there were already others student organizatios with ethnic name like ( PUNJABI STUDENT ORGANIZATION , PASHTOO STUDENTS FEDRATION , BALOUCH STUDENTS FEDRATION , etc etc...), But they were not Ethnic....again " NA INSAFI "

Rest you people know very well when JI kicked out Altaf Hussain from Karachi University.Altaf Hussain Aoor Us Kay Satheeeooon Per Taleem Ka Derwaza Bund Ker Dea Gaya Tha....

Then Altaf Hussain,s Team founded on 20TH MARCH 1984 MQM

Jaha Insaf Nahee Hota Hay Wohan Shetaan Azad Hota Hay....Aoor Jaha Shetan Aazad Hota Hay...Wohan Khoon Bahoot Aasani Say Behta Hay
( lump sum said by Aslam Zahid )

If some of you can come with logic I am ready to answer.

The most interesting thing I will say you people sometime later......Inshah_allah
My personal experience....Why do I needed my IDENTITY...as MOHAJIRS ...Why do I respect Altaf Hussain so much , because he gave us IDENTITY....

Believe me we have been pushed for this we did not demand we did not need this , but now We Can't Live Without this identity that is
" MUHAJIR"

Excellent!
 

Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Jury said:
Spartacus said:
I am not here to teach you or others , I said what I experienced , I said what I see , I said what I am seeing in future......
But some of you use against me or against those who are not in your side, bad langauges like ( stupid , mad , crazy , terrorist , etc etc...).
Do you think that this type of title will help me to change my political position?....NO

First we have to see why people of URBEN SINDH needed a political voice ? Do you have any answer ?...
I am giving you answer of this question....Answer is IDENTITYSee most of you are here....
Pakistani >>>>>> and Punjabi
Pakistani>>>>>>>and Pakhtoon
Pakistani >>>>>>and Sindi
Pakistani>>>>>>and Balouchi
Pakistani>>>>>>and kashmeeri
ETC
ETC
That is why a group whos parents and in my case Grand parents came from India after 1947.
They were only pakistani >>>>> One identity was missing , but they were very happy with this.

After some time there were ethnic disputes came . In East Pakistan , Bengalis demanded more rights according to their population, they demanded their own Governor , their langauge etc etc....
In Balouchistan , Balouchi demanded almost a state without pakistan support.
We were still PAKISTANI , no demand....
In 1960-61 , capital changed from karachi to ISLAMABAD , we did not demand anything till now...
In 1971 , Bangladesh got their freedom.....We are still happy PAKISTANI....
IN 1973 , Z.A.BHUTTU separated sindh into sindh DEHI and sindh Shehri....

Reason he gave that he want that DEHI should get more development with this new QUOTA SYSTEMand with QUOTA SYSTEM both community will get some development.

If this QUOTA SYSTEM was so good , why did he apply only in SINDH.
After this "NA INSAFI " , actually Z.A.BHUTTU pushed us that we should think more than PAKISTANI.
But we were not too much involve in politics , we were divided , we were only a victim and nothing more.

In 1978 , when QUOTA SYSTEM was already 5 years old ...

Because of this 5 years old kid , huge number of MOHAJIRS did not get admission in COLLEGES and universities , even they had more numbers as compare to those who got admission...."NA INSAFI "

This time we were again a victim but with some political knowledge and political awareness.
This time we had a group of students who were ready to fight to get their admission rights.
This time we had Altaf Hussain and his friends , who decided to go to student politics to protect their rights.
11 JUNE 1978 , they based a student political party APMSO ( ALL PAKISTAN MUHAJIR STUDENTS ORGANIZATION)
Now they were not less than others they were equal ...
And only now they were Pakistani >>>> and MOHAJIRS...... WAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO A GREAT DAY ( THANK YOU MR.ALTAF HUSSAIN , you gave us IDENTITY on that day )

Now , MOHAJIRS .....My God >>> Altaf Hussain is divinding Pakistan....
Ohhhh He is Ethnic , rasist , etc etc , and why......, yes ,because he founded a student party with ethnic name....
They were right this MOHAIR was and still showing a group ( Ethnic Group )
But there were already others student organizatios with ethnic name like ( PUNJABI STUDENT ORGANIZATION , PASHTOO STUDENTS FEDRATION , BALOUCH STUDENTS FEDRATION , etc etc...), But they were not Ethnic....again " NA INSAFI "

Rest you people know very well when JI kicked out Altaf Hussain from Karachi University.Altaf Hussain Aoor Us Kay Satheeeooon Per Taleem Ka Derwaza Bund Ker Dea Gaya Tha....

Then Altaf Hussain,s Team founded on 20TH MARCH 1984 MQM

Jaha Insaf Nahee Hota Hay Wohan Shetaan Azad Hota Hay....Aoor Jaha Shetan Aazad Hota Hay...Wohan Khoon Bahoot Aasani Say Behta Hay
( lump sum said by Aslam Zahid )

If some of you can come with logic I am ready to answer.

The most interesting thing I will say you people sometime later......Inshah_allah
My personal experience....Why do I needed my IDENTITY...as MOHAJIRS ...Why do I respect Altaf Hussain so much , because he gave us IDENTITY....

Believe me we have been pushed for this we did not demand we did not need this , but now We Can't Live Without this identity that is
" MUHAJIR"

Excellent!

Thankxxx Jury brother
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Tanweer.Amjad said:
Very similar to Taliban Story.

No suicidal attack
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kmaabbasi

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Spartacus you people cant hide your self weather u call it gutter press or impress, we know u very well and u dont need to tell us what is right and what is wrong, It is not old that your Quaed discharge Amir Liaqat for speaking against Salman Rushdi, Dont you tell me that it was not that reason and was dismissed becuse of speaking against a fiqqa anyway thanx for keeping Amir liqat alive as we know what could have happend to him.
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
kmaabbasi said:
Spartacus you people cant hide your self weather u call it gutter press or impress, we know u very well and u dont need to tell us what is right and what is wrong, It is not old that your Quaed discharge Amir Liaqat for speaking against Salman Rushdi, Dont you tell me that it was not that reason and was dismissed becuse of speaking against a fiqqa anyway thanx for keeping Amir liqat alive as we know what could have happend to him.

Click the link.

http://www.pkcolumns.com/2008/09/10/ami ... li-chehra/
 

PakPatriot1

Senator (1k+ posts)
Tanweer.Amjad said:
I was referring to the story of Spartacus that it resembles the origin of Taliban.

Keep closed your eyes like a pigeon my friend.
You can not differentiate between Haq and Batil because of your inner taassub.
After 62 years of existence this taassub still exists in your hearts and souls.
 

Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Tanweer.Amjad said:
Very similar to Taliban Story.

Waooo as you wrote ....."very similar to Talban Story">>>

Can you give me any single name that people of Pakistan selected from Talban, as member of parliament .

MQM has 25 MNA , more than 50 MPA , hundreds of councillors in local bodies , they all have been selected by people of URBEN SINDH.

Some of you are dreaming here an Army operation in karachi , like they are doing against TALBAN, and that is the reason you are finding your best simililarity in MQM and TALBAN , just to justify any operatin against MQM.....true ?....;)

I just want to warn you all who are thinking in this way , you people are living in a fool's paradise.

This is not 1992 , this is 2009.
 

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