Darood: Origin, Misinterpretations, and Dangers
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Wake up Pak
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As received
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God is in a joking mood
He said, "God ?"
God responded, "Yes?"
And the Guy said, " Can I ask a question?"
"Go right ahead", God said.
"God, what is a million years to you?"
God said, "A million years to me is only a second."
The man wondered.
Then he asked, "God, what are a million dollars worth to you?"
God said, "A million dollars to me is a penny."
So the man said, "God can I have a penny ?"
And God cheerfully said,
"Sure!.......just a second ."
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God is in a joking mood
A man was praying to God.He said, "God ?"
God responded, "Yes?"
And the Guy said, " Can I ask a question?"
"Go right ahead", God said.
"God, what is a million years to you?"
God said, "A million years to me is only a second."
The man wondered.
Then he asked, "God, what are a million dollars worth to you?"
God said, "A million dollars to me is a penny."
So the man said, "God can I have a penny ?"
And God cheerfully said,
"Sure!.......just a second ."
Wake up Pak
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Darood Ibrahim: O Allah, bestow Your favor on Muhammad and the family of Muhammad as You have bestowed Your favor on Ibrahim and the family of Ibrahim, You are Praiseworthy, Most Glorious.
This Darood Ibrahim is an insult to Allah in that it practically orders Him to shower his blessings on Prophet Mohammad and his family.
There is no mention in any hadith of reciting the Darood during Namaz. Additionally, it is unclear whether Prophet Mohammad recited it to bestow blessings upon himself.
This Darood was introduced by the Majosi Twelvers, who worship the Prophet's family, as you may be aware.
72:18 The places of worship are for God. So do not call, besides God, upon anyone else
This Darood Ibrahim is an insult to Allah in that it practically orders Him to shower his blessings on Prophet Mohammad and his family.
There is no mention in any hadith of reciting the Darood during Namaz. Additionally, it is unclear whether Prophet Mohammad recited it to bestow blessings upon himself.
This Darood was introduced by the Majosi Twelvers, who worship the Prophet's family, as you may be aware.
72:18 The places of worship are for God. So do not call, besides God, upon anyone else
Citizen X
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Not only that but it going directly against the Quran. How many times in the Quran has the said do not call anyone besides me, do not mention anyone else name in prayer other than mine.
It also clearly says multiple do not differentiate between the prophets. SO how is it even remotely possible that the Prophet Muhammad would disobey a direct and clear command of Allah and place himself above all other Prophets!
Wake up Pak
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2:136 Say, 'We believe in God; and in what was revealed to us; and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs; and in what was given to Moses and Jesus; and in what was given to the prophets—from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we surrender.'
3:84 Say: We acknowledge God and what was sent down to us and what was sent down to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, the Patriarchs, and what was given to Moses, Jesus, and all the prophets from their Sustainer: We make no distinction between them, and unto Him alone we are submitters.
If it was invented by a sect of the shias, why would the most strict "Salafi" scholars recite it in prayer? Furthermore, the argument about asking Allah to do something which he is already doing is moot, we ask him for things, and if it is according to his planning he grants them to us. Similarly, recitation of the Durood Sharif, the preceding bit is Allah's sunnah so we can request him to send our durood as well. Lastly, I adjure you to not go down this rabbit hole of takfir, and raise questions about core things such as the validity of the Durood sharif unless and until you are absolutely sure. All you can do in this regard is question the sources. If the sources match up, no other rationalisation should do as we simply can not understand more than the prophet PBUH. Otherwise, you might unconsciously end up ruining this life for yourself, and the hereafter. May Allah forgive us all, and guide us to the right path.
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Citizen X
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I mean can't fault the people because I am myself was part of this traditional religion for most of my life. But when you are out, you see they have turned Islam into Christianity 2.0. They have their gospels which were included in the bible 300 years later. We have our Hadith. They praised their Prophet so much they turned him into god. Ironically there are hadiths warning of exactly this!!!
We are almost there, thats why the early westerners named us Mohammadans because of almost god like status being given to him. You enter the church you have a statue of Jesus. You enter a Mosque, you Allah on one side and right next to him on the other side you have Muhammad.
Lord in Jesus name I ask you to do XYZ
Ya Allah teray Nabi ke sadqe mere liye XYZ ker de.
Can anyone see the difference?
Wake up Pak
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Hadith plagiarized from the Bible
(Part 1)
jonny_k
Hannover/Germany
CHAPTER 1 INTRODUCTION
I hope you will all read this book with an objective and intelligent mind (which is not an easy thing to do for the Ahlul Sunnah or the Shiah) and I hope that this book will help you in your journey towards the beautiful and powerful Islam that was revealed to the Prophet of Islam.
The first inkling I got about the influence of Christianity on the Ahlus Sunnah and Shiah are the too many similarities in the beliefs between Christianity and the Ahlus Sunnah and Shiah which are taught to us since we are children. But we have been taught by the priests of Ahlus Sunnah and Shiah that its alright to have so many similarities with the Christians as well as the Jews because all the the Jewish scriptures and the Christian Bible all bore the same teachings. This is not true at all. Only the Quran carries the Truth that withstands scrutiny, criticism and investigation. The Jewish scriptures and the Bible carry too many falsehoods.
But (quite unfortunately and sadly too ) I will prove in this book that what is written in the scriptures of the Christians and Jews that is accepted by the priests of Ahlus Sunnah and Shiah is actually not part of the Prophet's teachings.
The thing that got me worried from the beginning are the following verses in the Quran.
[Surah 3.100] O you who believe! if you obey a party from among those who have been given the Book, they will turn you back as unbelievers after you have believed.
[Surah 3.101] But how can you disbelieve while it is you to whom the communications of GOD are recited, and among you is His Apostle? And whoever holds fast to GOD, he indeed is guided to the right path
In these verses, the Prophet warns us in no uncertain terms that the people of the Book (the Christians and the Jews) will seek to deviate the Muslims away from Islam and back to their religion.
If that is the case how then could the Prophet teach us anything at all that is NOT FOUND in the Quran but is only found inside the Christian Bible and the Jewish scriptures? We will come to this point again in more detail.
But before I go any further it is important that we speak a little about the Quran. No one - not the Grand Ayatollahs in Iran, not the Chief Imam of the Grand Mosque in Mecca or any other chief priest of Ahlus Sunnah or Shiah knows the contents of the Quran from cover to cover. They recite the Quran like a sing song mantra book but they have no idea about its real contents.
The Quran represents the true spoken word of the Prophet - words that were revealed to him by GOD. The Quran is very clear about this:
Surah 69:40 ‘Most surely, it is the speech of an honored Apostle’.
The Arabic is unmistakable : “Innahu la kaulu rasuulin kareem”. ‘Kaulu’ means speech. Indeed the Quran represents the speech of the Rasul. When we recite the Quran in the Arabic language we are actually reciting the words that were first spoken out by the Rasul.
Hence I like to paraphrase the verses of the Quran that I quote in this book with these words 'the Prophet said..' .
The Quran has been sent down to us as a confirming scripture or criterion. The Arabic word for a Criterion scripture is 'furqan'. Here is the verse:
[Surah 25.1] “Blessed is He Who sent down the Furqan upon His servant that he may be a warner to the nations”.
Now it is very simple logic that a confirming scripture can only confirm things that are found within its own pages. For example the Quran says that GOD created the first female Self and from her GOD created her spouse. We will discuss this in detail later.
Nowhere does the Quran say that GOD created the woman from the rib of the man which is what is written in the Christian Bible and also found in the fake hadith. So to be point blank accurate (and also to speak the truth) the Quran cannot confirm the passages in the Christian Bible that say that the woman was created from the rib of the man.
But the priests of Ahlus Sunnah and Shiah believe that indeed the woman was created from the rib of the man. They echo the following Biblical story.
Genesis 2: 21 - 23: “But for Adam, no suitable helper was found. 21 So the LORD GOD caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs and closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the LORD GOD made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. 23 The man said, "This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called 'woman, for she was taken out of man."
This story cannot be found inside the Quran therefore the Quran cannot confirm this story. To overcome this deviation from the Quranic truth, the priests of Ahlul Sunnah say that although the Quran does not say so, it is found in the extra Quranic sayings of the Rasul which the Ahlus Sunnah call 'hadith' and the Shiah call 'khabar'.
I would like to pause here for a while. The reader has to stop and ponder this for a minute because it is important. The priests of Ahlul Sunnah and Shiah thereby acknowledge that these Christian beliefs are NOT found in the Quran but they are found in their extra Quranic writings of the hadith or the khabar.
To overcome this discrepancy the priests of Ahlul Sunnah and Shiah have concocted the further lie that their ridiculous and fake collections of hadith and khabar (both supposedly being recorded sayings of the Rasul) have the same stature as the revealed Quran.
I will also go into much detail about the falsehood of the hadith in the chapters ahead.
The Ahlus Sunnah have their thousands of hadith. Until today they cannot explain which one of their collections of hadith is complete and sufficient. For example, if we ask the Ahlus Sunnah 'Can you lay in front of me the complete collection of all the so-called hadith of the Rasul?" they will be dumbfounded. They have none.
[Surah 2.170] And when it is said to them, Follow what GOD has revealed, they say: Nay! we follow what we found our fathers upon. What! And though their fathers had no sense at all, nor did they follow the right way.
The Sunnis and Shiahs will refuse to read and understand the Quran. They will reject the clear teachings of the Quran which refute all the Sunni and Shiah beliefs that are stolen from the Christian Bible. Out of sheer force of habit and fear of leaving his comfort zone the Sunni and Shiah will choose to prolong the religion of his fathers without wanting to find out what is written in the Quran. The Sunni and Shiah will continue to uphold the Bible.
Wake up Pak
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The Jews too, hundreds of years after Moses’ death created the Mishnah (Hadith, sayings) and Gemara (Sunna, Actions); upheld them, and then invented laws in them rather than the Torah (revealed word of God). As for Christianity, in the city of Nicene 325 years after the death of Jesus, the Council of Nicaea, agreed to call Jesus, the son of God.
Wake up Pak
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Quranic Verse for Durood Shareef
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Yusalluna is Salat's derivate, it should be translated as per traditionalist's translation "Namaz"Quranic Verse for Durood Shareef
Quran 33:43
هُوَ ٱلَّذِی یُصَلِّی عَلَیۡكُمۡ وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتُهُۥ لِیُخۡرِجَكُم مِّنَ ٱلظُّلُمَـٰتِ إِلَى ٱلنُّورِۚ وَكَانَ بِٱلۡمُؤۡمِنِینَ رَحِیمࣰا
Can you translate this verse as well?
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Citizen X
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Obviously you didn't watch the video posted because this verse is explained there. Here watch it again from 2mins 30secsQuranic Verse for Durood Shareef
Watch this aswell
AND just for arguments sake lets accept it, where does it say to "bless" the prophets family, "bless" Ibrahim and his family. So even then at the very least you are doing bidah by adding The Ibrahim and the families of these two prophets which the ayah never mentions.
Citizen X
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Gotcha moment.
wow sounds 100% correct, sounds shirk an unforgivable sin by allah, even rasoolullah himself said in his last qutba Iam dieing as an ordinary man follow quran andf my ahadees the way I lived my life. THE BIGGEST CULPRITS ARE BARELVEES, THEY DO A LOT OF SHIRK BY NAUZUBILLAH LIKE JESUS THAT HE ASTAGHFIRULLAH RASOLLULLAH ALIVE AND DO A LOT OF BIDUTTS GREN TURBINE GREEN FLAGS AND CELEBRATE PROPHETS BIRTHDAY IF U DEBATE THEY SAY TELL ME WHAT U READ IN NUMAZ SURAH ATAEEYAAT: READ
THEY SAY THE PART WHERE YOU SAY ASALMOEALEEKA AHUNABIU IS SAYING SALAM TO RASOOLULLAH INSTEAD OF BLESSINGS UPON HIM NABIS NAME USED HERE, CAN ANYBODY CLARIFY THIS PART
Citizen X
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He never said that and nor do you have any way of proving that he did. His emphasis was on only the Quran and Quran alone.
And all sects are against the Quran and involved in shirk. Be it Sunni, Shia, Brelvi, Deobandi, Jaffriyya, Ahle Sunna etc etc etc
Read this excerpt from islamic university from rasoolulahs pbuh last sermon
"O People! No Prophet or apostle will come after me and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore O People! and understand words that I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the Quran and the Sunnah and if you follow these you will never go astray."
Source: https://www.iium.edu.my/deed/articles/thelastsermon.html
Another source where he said to follow quran and sunnah that is his way of life
The Farewell Sermon of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) | Human Appeal
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) undertook his farewell pilgrimage in the year 10 A.H. His farewell pilgrimage to Mecca is one of the most significant historical events in the minds of Muslims, for it was the first and last pilgrimage performed by Prophet Muhammad. Read more
humanappeal.org.uk
