David Icke views
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Faiza
Moderator
Sorry I didn’t saw these videos yet…
Video NOORIE BADSHAH", has nothing to do with this post …. In this post I just trying to show other views about Egypt revolution…. It can be a conspiracy and you don’t have to agree with it….
And yes what ever NOORIE BADSHAH is doing in that video I called it UN Islamic
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Veila Mast
Senator (1k+ posts)
Don't worry Faiza, watch it and then we shall talk relation of above info with Noori Badshah.
Yahan Din Ki Batein Hoti Hain
Yahan Raat Ki Batein Hoti Hain
Yah Duniya Hain Iss Duniya Main
Har Baat Ki Batein Hoti Hain
Din Raat Tomari Mahfil Main
Din Raat Ki Batein Hoti Hain
Jis Baat Main Koi Baat Nahi
Us Baat Ki Ki Batein Hoti Hain
Jis Baat Pah Itni Baat Pari
Uss Baat Main Koi Baat Nahi
Hazoor...
Jab Baat Pah Baat Aa Jaye
Tab Baat Ki Batein Hoti Hain
Saboo
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I watched most of Ike's videos and the like but what is this Noorie Badshah video you are talking about?
Faiza
Moderator
Actually I posted two videos in a same day one is this one other was about some Norrie Badshah doing some illogical action in the name if Islam, so ( Veila Mast) posted these videos and ask me to see all of them so we can talked about Norrie Badshah. But I dont see any connection between this and my other post
For your reference I am posting a link of my other post of Norrie Badshah
[video]http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?57238-badshah-noori&p=331610#post331610[/video]
Veila Mast
Senator (1k+ posts)
I wish Noori Badshah had known English and set a stage like David in order not to be blunt!
Lol!
Anyway Joke Apart!
What's your opinion when Quran quotes Dowa e Hazrat Moosa Alaih Salam as "Rab i Sharah Li Sadri" or quotes in Shan e Rasool pbuh as "Alam Nashra Laka Sadrak"!
What's your opinion about Rasool Allah's pbuh Shaq ul Sadr?
What is role of Sadr as compared to intellect?
Gradually we shall talk about human consciousness, so don't you worry finding missing link is not impossible!
Mujhay Dar Hai Dil e Zinda, Kahin Tu Na Mar Jaye
Kah Zindgani Ebadat Hai Teray Jeenay Say...........
Faiza
Moderator
First of all I dont agree what David is saying in the video you posted, secondly without going into detail I like to clear you that Islam is only what we learn from Quran and sunna, we dont need to twist it to prove any kind of Biddat (addition)
I posted a video of David on one matter it doesnt mean I have to be agree with all his philosophies
Sorry to disappoint you but I dont like to give justification for any act which has nothing to do with Islam
Veila Mast
Senator (1k+ posts)
Inkar Ki Si Lazzat Iqrar Main Kahan!
Barhta Hai Shoq Ghalib, Un Ki Nahi Nahi Say
Lol!
I hope you do know "Ehd e Na Siart e Mustaqeem, Sirat ul Lazeen An Amta Alaihim", now I know you will differ here by saying pious people are those who are not BIDDATI!
Lol!
David Icke is gone now, what I asked you further was pure Islamic Grounds of Dowa e Moosa Alaih Salam and bits relationg to it!
I am not saying you agree to David word by word!
But I want you to experience what Science has agreed now, we know 15 centuries ago!
Gradually I shall continue to ask you further question and try to find you missing link of Badshah Noori.
Don't you worry, my objective is not ambiguous and I shall come to Badshah Noori but initially I want to seek you caliber!
Faiza
Moderator
Its not easy to talk unless I know the ground of it. You know verbal communication only convey 7% of the message the rest is tone, gesture, etc . So here I dont even know a ground of this conversation and you are expecting me to give the answer of your question.
I think its better if you come to the point
Different views and philosophies, different religion, and sects, difference are some how a part of human journey A very intelligent Hindu scholar or scientists still believe that worshiping an Idol is a right religion
Science is like any other knowledge, which go through of process of improvement theories can differ from each other.
Instead of going zig zag its better if you come directly on Badshah Norri
I think its better if you come to the point
Different views and philosophies, different religion, and sects, difference are some how a part of human journey A very intelligent Hindu scholar or scientists still believe that worshiping an Idol is a right religion
Science is like any other knowledge, which go through of process of improvement theories can differ from each other.
Instead of going zig zag its better if you come directly on Badshah Norri
Veila Mast
Senator (1k+ posts)
Bas Kham e Khaan Main Nawai Raza
Na Yah Tarz Meri, Na Yah Rang Mera
Irshad e "Faiza" Natiq Tha
Na Char Is Rah Para Jana!
Neither you agree at Scientific Explanation of Consciousness nor you want to talk about what is mentioned in Quran!
Yak Zamana Sohbat Ba Auliya
Bahtar Az Sad Sala Ta'at Be Riya
Faiza
Moderator
Consciousness can be explained in different way, so obviously I cannot agree with every thing..
We can discuss Islam through Quran but again I need to know what exactly we are discussing .. So far in my very limited knowledge I never find any thing in our religion which can prove Badshah Nori act Islamic ..
So once again come to the point, its better you tell me your point of view so we can debate on it.. Because so far I dont know how you are trying to justify his acts, for me its not easy to understand because in my view it is completely ignorant act . If it is some kind of exercise like yoga or any other exercise to cure mental problems, then why in the name of religion..
Veila Mast
Senator (1k+ posts)
Lol!
Faiza, what's your ground to call Badshah Noori as Un Islamic Act!
It's just you don't understand this!
Isn't it?
What you can't understand doesn't always mean it's not appropriate!
Halal, Haram and there is third thing called Mubah!
If something is not prohibited then it's Mubah.
Now I come to real problem here that you are not able to understand.
Does Islam allow you to cut yourself?
Off course not.
But what happens in operation theatre, can we held Doctors responsible?
Off course not.
I hope you understand the reason!
What is Heart?
Heart is very special instrument in human body, when you read Hadith Mubarka then you come to know Rasool Allah pbuh pointed his finger towards heart to be place of Taqwa.
What is sin?
Sin is something that is depreciated by your heart.
What happens to heart when you commit sins.
A black spot.
Gradually it increases if you don't ask for forgiveness.
What else is heart?
Heart is director of all your decisions?
But do you think it's pragmatic!
You will have to as even Science has come to conclusion in finding that to be true.
Qalb e Saleem!
Qalb e Munaib!
What are these?
Anyway Simply, when you see Badshah Noori then very first thing you need to understand it's kind of operation!
That's why I asked you about Shaq us Sadr!
Do you know any thing about it?
Destiny!
Protocol or Software installed!
It's when you are blessed, then installed with characteristics!
To purify heart!
To make it enable to receive signals!
Setting frequency!
To communicate!
Yeh Masail-e-Tasawwuf, Yeh Tera Bayaan Ghalib
Tujhe Hum Wali Samajhte, Jo Na Veila Mast Hota!
Veila Mast
Senator (1k+ posts)
Bhahlanay Walay Bhalain Shooq Say Aksar, Hum Ko Tum Ko
Ana Jana, Milna Julna, Chup Kar, Khul Kar, Hum Ko Tum Ko
Lol!
Having said that I sincerely wish every sister should be blessed with a brother like Malik Sahab so that she may not be "indulged" in views by some one who is VEILA and Mast same time!
Many Thanks Malik Sahab for pointing this out.
Teri Wahshato Say Ae Dil Mujhay Kiyon Na Aar Aye
Tu Unhi Say Dour Bhagay, Jinhain Tujh Pah Piyar Aye
So Faiza take big bro's advise and stay away from any Veila Mast!
Veilay Ka Kiya Hai:
Dar Mando Say Mat Poocho Kahan Beith Gaye
Un Ki Mehfil Main Jahan Ja Milli Wahan Beith Gaye
Saboo
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Veila Mast
I hope you did not mind my sincere advice.
My personal understanding about religious discussions is that, instead of uniting you, they take you further apart
and should be kept to a bare minimum. My advice to Faiza not to indulge is for religious discussions only. I am sure Faiza
can make up her own mind to induge in any discussion she wishes. Since you were having this very sensitive discussion
on this public forum, I dare to put in my two bits worth.
If you are that sensitive that your feelings are hurt, then you should have had this discusson privately.
I hope you did not mind my sincere advice.
My personal understanding about religious discussions is that, instead of uniting you, they take you further apart
and should be kept to a bare minimum. My advice to Faiza not to indulge is for religious discussions only. I am sure Faiza
can make up her own mind to induge in any discussion she wishes. Since you were having this very sensitive discussion
on this public forum, I dare to put in my two bits worth.
If you are that sensitive that your feelings are hurt, then you should have had this discusson privately.
Faiza
Moderator
Ok now I understand your point of view
If some thing is not prohibited, it means we can do it but we dont need to include in religion as a part of it..
As I mention before if it is some kind of yoga or exercise or psychological treatment, we dont need to include in religion..
When heart turns dark because of sin, we need to do treatment according to teaching of Prophet Mohammadpbuh; this kind of jumping and dancing has nothing to do with Islam
And about rest of your philosophy sorry to say but I am completely unable to understand, I dont know what kind of operation or treatment Badshah Nori was doing
Any way make life easy, I gave up, we both can stick with our views
Faiza
Moderator
Thanks for the advice, I gave up.. Its true that changing some one belief is not easy . We all think that we have a true knowledge and others are wrong.
الله تعالیٰ ہم سب کو نفع دانے والا علم عطا فرماے .... آمین
