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Re: Dr. Israr Ahmed: Haqeeqat-o-aqsaame Shirk
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Re: Dr. Israr Ahmed: Haqeeqat-o-aqsaame Shirk
Dr Sahib innocent muslims ko mislead ker rahay hain shirak ki aar mein apnay firqay ka parchar ker rahay hain. Mein iss speech ka reply post ker sakta hoon ta ke innocent people mislead na hoon unn ke aqaid kharab na hoon. Lakin muj ko sure hai ke ighar mein iss post ka reply post karoon ga to uss ko yeh keh ke delete kar diya jaye ga"secterian debates are not allowed here" as i happened before. according to me yeh forum aik specific sect to promote ker raha hai . Shaid meri yeh baat aap ko pasand na aaye lakin yehi reality hai. u can analysis by urself if u dont believe.
Dr Sahib innocent muslims ko mislead ker rahay hain shirak ki aar mein apnay firqay ka parchar ker rahay hain. Mein iss speech ka reply post ker sakta hoon ta ke innocent people mislead na hoon unn ke aqaid kharab na hoon. Lakin muj ko sure hai ke ighar mein iss post ka reply post karoon ga to uss ko yeh keh ke delete kar diya jaye ga"secterian debates are not allowed here" as i happened before. according to me yeh forum aik specific sect to promote ker raha hai . Shaid meri yeh baat aap ko pasand na aaye lakin yehi reality hai. u can analysis by urself if u dont believe.
Wadaich
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Dr. Israr Ahmed: Haqeeqat-o-aqsaame Shirk
Jazakallah. He has done the duty assigned by Allah (SWT) to all the Muslims. He was among the few chosen ones.
Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! the sectarian conflict mongers be away.
Jazakallah. He has done the duty assigned by Allah (SWT) to all the Muslims. He was among the few chosen ones.
Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! the sectarian conflict mongers be away.
Wadaich
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Equally respectable
Thanks brother! Please don't indulge in such things. All the true Ulaama like Dr. Israar Saahib, Tahirul Qadri, Moulana Tariq Jamil, and Ulaamaa of Isna Ashri brothers are equally respectable.
Thanks brother! Please don't indulge in such things. All the true Ulaama like Dr. Israar Saahib, Tahirul Qadri, Moulana Tariq Jamil, and Ulaamaa of Isna Ashri brothers are equally respectable.
atensari
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Re: Dr. Israr Ahmed: Haqeeqat-o-aqsaame Shirk
Shirk ka talq firqay say nahi Islam oor Aman say hay, shirk, shirk he rahta hay khawa koi firqa usay shirk samjhay yah na samjhay.
Shirk ka talq firqay say nahi Islam oor Aman say hay, shirk, shirk he rahta hay khawa koi firqa usay shirk samjhay yah na samjhay.
Re: Dr. Israr Ahmed: Haqeeqat-o-aqsaame Shirk
Dr. Israr was a learned Alim. His grasp on Quran was fantastic, but I wonder how he forgot to take into consideration
this Verse of Quran, while discussing/allowing the concept that Prophet(pbuh) was a "bashar" and "Noor" at the same
time. No one (NO ONE) has the authority to change the words of Allah written in Quran, how it comes Dr. Israr ignored that
also?
http://www.quraneasyurdu.net/ps18/ch18w.html
Donnallah and Ghair Allah, are two such strong words which more than enough define the Shirk,
Dr. Israr was a learned Alim. His grasp on Quran was fantastic, but I wonder how he forgot to take into consideration
this Verse of Quran, while discussing/allowing the concept that Prophet(pbuh) was a "bashar" and "Noor" at the same
time. No one (NO ONE) has the authority to change the words of Allah written in Quran, how it comes Dr. Israr ignored that
also?
http://www.quraneasyurdu.net/ps18/ch18w.html
Donnallah and Ghair Allah, are two such strong words which more than enough define the Shirk,
Re: Dr. Israr Ahmed: Haqeeqat-o-aqsaame Shirk
i know its really a senstive issue but at least iss ki aar mein apnay aqaid ke parchar to na karain. Dr sahib nay to yeh bhi kaha tha ke kharay ho ker qomi tarana sunna shirk hai iss tarah 90 percent muslims of pakistan are mushrik according to dr sahib . Plz dont upload this kind of speech in this forum. It will irritate muslims specially Sunni Muslims jo ke majority mein hain.
u should add "this is only for wahabi muslims" along title of this speech. aaj kal jis dr ki medicine nahi bikti woh deen ke thek e dar ban ker baith jata hai
i know its really a senstive issue but at least iss ki aar mein apnay aqaid ke parchar to na karain. Dr sahib nay to yeh bhi kaha tha ke kharay ho ker qomi tarana sunna shirk hai iss tarah 90 percent muslims of pakistan are mushrik according to dr sahib . Plz dont upload this kind of speech in this forum. It will irritate muslims specially Sunni Muslims jo ke majority mein hain.
u should add "this is only for wahabi muslims" along title of this speech. aaj kal jis dr ki medicine nahi bikti woh deen ke thek e dar ban ker baith jata hai
atensari
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Re: Dr. Israr Ahmed: Haqeeqat-o-aqsaame Shirk
علامہ اقبال نے بھی یہی کہا ہے:
تھذیب کے آذر نے تراشواے صنم اور
مسلم نے بھی تعمیر کیا اپنا حرم اور
ان تازہ خداؤں میں سب سے بڑا ہے وطن
جو پہرہن ہے اس کا مذہب کا ہے کفن
ترکوں سے بغاوت کر کے اس وطنی قومیت کے کفن میں عرب نے خلافت دفن کی تھی اسی وطنیت کی بنیاد پر مشرقی پاکستان الگ ہوا تھا. کوئی بھی محبّت مذہب سے بڑھ جاتی ہے تو خدا بن جاتی ہے.
علامہ اقبال نے بھی یہی کہا ہے:
تھذیب کے آذر نے تراشواے صنم اور
مسلم نے بھی تعمیر کیا اپنا حرم اور
ان تازہ خداؤں میں سب سے بڑا ہے وطن
جو پہرہن ہے اس کا مذہب کا ہے کفن
ترکوں سے بغاوت کر کے اس وطنی قومیت کے کفن میں عرب نے خلافت دفن کی تھی اسی وطنیت کی بنیاد پر مشرقی پاکستان الگ ہوا تھا. کوئی بھی محبّت مذہب سے بڑھ جاتی ہے تو خدا بن جاتی ہے.
Pakistani1947
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Dr. Israr Ahmed: Haqeeqat-o-aqsaame Shirk
Dear Salik786,
It is very clear from Qur'aan and Hadeeth that SHIRK is worst of all sins. It is also very clear that there is no forgiveness from this sin. Shouldn't we be very careful to avoid any kind of activity even there a slight doubt that this act may lead to SHIRK. For example, prostrating (سجدہ) the grave, even "ta'azimi" (تعظیمی) has been declared by majority of Ulema as SHIRK. Tell me why would a Muslim take risk of committing SHIRK if that Sijda may lead him to hell??? On the other hand, doing Sijda (سجدہ) to a grave is not a requirement to be successful in Aakhirat (آخرت).
If Dr. Israr's said that it is SHIRK to stand for National Anthem, and for the sake of argument let's accept that he was wrong. Does it permit somebody to start prostrating the grave (سجدہ)?
Please try to understand, that Dr. Israr Ahmed were so afraid of doing any act where there is slight doubt that it may be termed as SHIRK in the Aakhirat (آخرت).
Just think about it ....neutrally....
May Allah Give Hidayat to all of us.
Dear Salik786,
It is very clear from Qur'aan and Hadeeth that SHIRK is worst of all sins. It is also very clear that there is no forgiveness from this sin. Shouldn't we be very careful to avoid any kind of activity even there a slight doubt that this act may lead to SHIRK. For example, prostrating (سجدہ) the grave, even "ta'azimi" (تعظیمی) has been declared by majority of Ulema as SHIRK. Tell me why would a Muslim take risk of committing SHIRK if that Sijda may lead him to hell??? On the other hand, doing Sijda (سجدہ) to a grave is not a requirement to be successful in Aakhirat (آخرت).
If Dr. Israr's said that it is SHIRK to stand for National Anthem, and for the sake of argument let's accept that he was wrong. Does it permit somebody to start prostrating the grave (سجدہ)?
Please try to understand, that Dr. Israr Ahmed were so afraid of doing any act where there is slight doubt that it may be termed as SHIRK in the Aakhirat (آخرت).
Just think about it ....neutrally....
May Allah Give Hidayat to all of us.
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Re: Dr. Israr Ahmed: Haqeeqat-o-aqsaame Shirk
Dear pakistani1947
janab taizimi sajda sakhat haram hai na ke shirk aap nay kis se suna ke majority of ulema says that its shirk. Its totally wrong. Haan ighar sajda ghair Allah ko ibadat samaj ker kiya jaye to phir shirk hai. Aur to har banda janta hai ke ham sirf Allah ki ibadat kartay hain aur jo jahil log qabroon per sajda kartay hain woh taizimi sajda kartay hain halan ke yeh sakhat haram hai. Aur jo log Natioanl Anthem ke liye stand hotay hai woh National Anthem ki tazeem mein stand hotay hain na ke ibadat ki gharaz mein. Yahi baat to Dr Sahib ki samaj mein nahi aayi
Dear pakistani1947
janab taizimi sajda sakhat haram hai na ke shirk aap nay kis se suna ke majority of ulema says that its shirk. Its totally wrong. Haan ighar sajda ghair Allah ko ibadat samaj ker kiya jaye to phir shirk hai. Aur to har banda janta hai ke ham sirf Allah ki ibadat kartay hain aur jo jahil log qabroon per sajda kartay hain woh taizimi sajda kartay hain halan ke yeh sakhat haram hai. Aur jo log Natioanl Anthem ke liye stand hotay hai woh National Anthem ki tazeem mein stand hotay hain na ke ibadat ki gharaz mein. Yahi baat to Dr Sahib ki samaj mein nahi aayi
atensari
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Re: Dr. Israr Ahmed: Haqeeqat-o-aqsaame Shirk
حضور صلّہ علیہ وسلم نے اپنے آپ کو کتنے سجدے کروائے اور صحابہ نے کتنے سجدے کیے. ریاست مدینہ کا قومی ترانہ کیا تھا. خلیفہ راشدین سے کوئی مثال
جن چیزوں کی مذہب میں کوئی حیثیت ہے نا دین میں کوئی مقام ان کے بارے میں لا حاصل بحث کرنے کا کوئی فائدہ، نا سجدہ تعزیمی کے بارے میں پوچھا جاۓ گا اور نا ہی قومی ترانے کے بارے میں، سوال ہو گا تو شرک کے بارے میں ہو گا.
ڈاکٹر صاحب کو سمجھ میں آیا ہے تبھی تو ان چیزوں سے بچتے رہے تاکہ کسی کو انگلی رکھنے کی جگہ ہی نا ملے
حضور صلّہ علیہ وسلم نے اپنے آپ کو کتنے سجدے کروائے اور صحابہ نے کتنے سجدے کیے. ریاست مدینہ کا قومی ترانہ کیا تھا. خلیفہ راشدین سے کوئی مثال
جن چیزوں کی مذہب میں کوئی حیثیت ہے نا دین میں کوئی مقام ان کے بارے میں لا حاصل بحث کرنے کا کوئی فائدہ، نا سجدہ تعزیمی کے بارے میں پوچھا جاۓ گا اور نا ہی قومی ترانے کے بارے میں، سوال ہو گا تو شرک کے بارے میں ہو گا.
ڈاکٹر صاحب کو سمجھ میں آیا ہے تبھی تو ان چیزوں سے بچتے رہے تاکہ کسی کو انگلی رکھنے کی جگہ ہی نا ملے
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Video: Islami Riyasat Ka Dasturi Khaka
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
Video: Islami Riyasat Ka Dasturi Khaka
Speaker: Dr. Israr Ahmad
20-September-2010
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Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
Video: Islami Riyasat Ka Dasturi Khaka
Speaker: Dr. Israr Ahmad
20-September-2010
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Source: Youtube Channel: ziarecord
