Disgraceful .Why u making it a pure secterian issue ? I just said he is a drama queen and halwa khour ,Stop giving kufar fatwas . i just know that Bidaat is haram . Now what i think bidaat is for you it is ibaadat. All these rituals were not performed by Sahaaba then who are we to induce new substance in the religion and make people fool in the name of religion. I am not saying that you are not sincere with the religion but when even if there is a doubt about a bidaat we should stay away from it. If i visit darbaar i don't find any rohaaniyat there but many people just making money in the name of religion there. Urs and chaleeswan , gayarween shareef and such things are not mentioned in Holy Quran and ahadees. Look at the followers of such peer. 90% are those who have no good knowledge of religion and it's easy to play with their faith. This is my point of view . You keep ur faith and i keep mine
Just adding up a bit more. One of my friend was a mureed of some peer .I was shocked to see that peer shaib used to decide the menu of whole week in their house. They used to do everything day to day matters with the advise of peer sahib .once we friend were talking on this matter with him and he told us that his mother can go to any extend if peer sahib ask for any thing . his mother was a highly qualified woman but very obedient of the peer. he said my mom is more obedient to peer sahib then she is obedient to my dad.There are millions of examples in Paskistan.
i am not against peer but peer parasti is shirk.
who gave you the authority to malign someones faith and call it biddat and shirk and after doing all that you want a clean chit for yourself by saying that you keep yours and i keep mine.............
Itna Islam ka thekedaar na bano zara ja kr parh lena k halva khana b sunnat ha ainda aisey ghatia tareekey se halvey ka zikr mat krna...........
ye relation na b ho halva khana na khana koi issue nhi ..................
baki tumhain agar bohur shoke he bidaat k topic pe bolney ka to behtr he naya thread bna lo phir main tumhain btaon ga k sahaba ne konsey kaam nhi kiaey jo aaj tum kr rahey ho vo kio nazar nhi atey.....................
jb tum khud accept kr rahey ho k tumhain doubt he to tum kis tarha kisi ko bidati ya mushrik keh rahey ho tumhain 100% yakeen b ho jaiey tb b tumharey koi deeni ilmi hasiat nhi k tum ye keh sako..............isliaey shak he to tehkeek kro logo pe fatwey na lagao..........
jis mulk me ho hi jahalat vahan pe yahi ratio ho gee ,,,,,,,,,,,vesey parhey likhey to aapkey khuda ko hi nhi mantey vo tu kehtey hain ye jahilo ka kaam he............
and for your example and the conclusion you presented............makes me laugh
masjid is called Allah ka ghar muslims pray there someone comes and steels a clock from masjid..........someone comes and steals shoes from masjid...........even the glasses are tied with chains so that to prevent them from being stolen..............some more examples in an examination room when the examiner goes out of the room students start looking at other's papers(start cheating).............a person comes an says ****ma and blows himself with a bomb killing innocent people............vulgarity is considered haram but most internet trafic from pakistan is sex sites...............
conclusion according to your methodology
muslims do not believe in God or their God cannot see what they are doing.
Actually muslims do not believe that God can see hear anything if they did such things would not have happened.
Muslims are hypocrate they says Gos is great but they do not fear God they fear examiner when he goes out they start cheating they don't believe that God is seeing them.
Islam allows to kill an innocent person and is a brutal religion.
Muslims are most hypocrate they show that they do it for God but actually its against their culture which prevents them from doing it in open because whenever they find opertunity where they can hide from the society for them alcohol is also halal illegal sex is also halal they dont consider it God's will.
they do every illegal thing hidden from the society and infront of the society they show themselves as most pious person............this can only be possible if they do not believe that God can see and hear whatever they are doing.
You said there are millions of such examples i bet you on that..............i bet you on what i said above i will find millions of such people in any muslim country.
they above stated charachteristics are not exceptional they are general and in view of these and applying your method of extracting conclusion from it ,it can be said with authority that islam has no base there is no god and muslims do not believe in god and if ther is any religion called islam then it teaches killing humans ,corruption can lawless ness for that i ask you to chek they percentage of muslims in countries of the world and also check how peaceful they are how musch corrupt they are ,whats they status of law there.....................
I will be waiting for your reply on it.................
