A.Chaudhry

Banned
Re: Mahathir Mohamad invited Pakistani Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri for suggestions to Improve Economy of Malaysia

you said "celebrating or remembering birthdays or special events is the Sunnah of Allah & Prophet....and celebraing brithday of Hazrat Isa in whom we beive He is the prophet of Allah and even Allah Himslef discussed his event of birthday in quran"

Tum QURAN ki wo ayat batao jis main Hazrat ESA alehay salam ki bithday ka zikar hai??aur tum kesay keh saktay ho birday manana sunnat hai?kab Hazrat Mohammadpbuh ney BIRTHDAY manai?koi saboot do.

AUR kia is video main jo dekhaya hai AANKHAIN KHOOL k dekho SHIRK ho raha hai aur ye tahir ul qadri FITNA enjoy kar raha hai sajday ko(Nauzubillah).kia ye shirk nahi?

tahir ul qadri ney Islam main changes la kar apney followers ko GUMRAH kar raha hai ,tahir ul qadri is FITNA

There is no need to get so emotional, go and study Surrah Mariam.

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[TD="bgcolor: #ffffee"]33. اور مجھ پر سلام ہو میرے میلاد کے دن، اور میری وفات کے دن، اور جس دن میں زندہ اٹھایا جاؤں گاo[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #ffffee"]33. And peace be upon me on the day of my birth, the day of my demise and the day I shall be raised up alive!’[/TD]
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such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Mahathir Mohamad invited Pakistani Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri for suggestions to Improve Economy of Malaysia

اسلام میں صرف دو ہی عیدیں ہیں
عیدالفطر اور عید الضحی

یہی دو عیدیں سنت رسول صلی اللہ علیہ وسلّم سے ثابت ہیں
جو ہر سال لوٹ کر آتی ہیں
جسے ہر مسلمان سنت رسول کے مطابق مناتا ہے
باقی سب عیدیں بدعت ہیں
جسے لوگ اپنی اپنی مرضی سے مناتے ہیں

بدعت در حقیقت دین محمدی میں اضافے کا نام ہے
دین میں اضافہ کرنے والا در حقیقت نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلّم کا گستاخ ہے
دین میں ردوبدل کرنا کمی کرنا یا اضافہ کرنا
درحقیقت نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلّم کے حق پر ڈاکہ مارنا ہے
جس کا اختیار کسی والی بزرگ حتیٰ کے صحابی کے پاس بھی نہیں
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Mahathir Mohamad invited Pakistani Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri for suggestions to Improve Economy of Malaysia

ایک قوال
ناچنے والا
بھنگڑے ڈالنے والا
چرسیوں کے ساتھ ڈانس کرنے والا
طبلہ نواز
انہیں لوگوں کا لیڈر ہوسکتا ہے اور عالم ہوسکتا ہے
جو خود قبروں کی صنعت سے وابستہ ہوں
طاہر القادری کوئی شک نہیں قبروں کے بیوپاریوں کا سردار ہے

مگر اہل توحید اور خالص قرآن و حدیث پر چلنے والے
سنت رسول صلی اللہ علیہ وسلّم کو دین اور بدعت کو گمراہی سمجھنے والوں کے نزدیک
یہ شخص گمراہ شعبدے باز اور دجال صفت ہے
اللہ اس شخص کے فتنے سے ہم سب کو بچاے

آمین
 

ahsanuck

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Mahathir Mohamad invited Pakistani Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri for suggestions to Improve Economy of Malaysia

About birthday status in Islam, Read this chapter then you will know how the birth of various prophets have been discussed in quran but if still you dont like celebrating birthday then it is your right, i dont argue with you nor I have any interest in you but it was my moral duty to tell my viewpoint whether you accept or not.. http://www.minhajbooks.com/english/control/btext/cid/4/bid/79/btid/268/read/img/باب%20سوم-The%20Birth%20of%20the%20Holy%20Prophet%20(PBUH).html

As far as your other wrong blame of Shirk / Sajda is concerned, it is totally a lie and nothing because no one was doing sajda to Tahir ul Qadri but he was kissing feet of Tahir ul Qadri at sudden that is also disliked by Tahir ul Qadri and if you watch the video then will look that Tahir ul Qadri was pushing him with his hand to not kiss...even this act is allowed in Isalm....one thing remember that Tahir ul Qadri can not bow down because of his backbone problem and thats the reason even he has been performing prayer while sitting on chair for many years....if you want reality of the matter and Islamic viewpoint on kissing feet then open this link but if still you insist in calling kissing feet as sajda and putting wrong words in commentary then all responsibilty is on your shoulders.. and what truth was I told you that was kissing but never sajda because sajda is not allowed in any shape to any one...if sajda is done with intention of love or respect then it is harram but if it is done with inention of worship then SHIRK...thats it..open the link if wants reality http://saifetahir.com/?p=51
you said "celebrating or remembering birthdays or special events is the Sunnah of Allah & Prophet....and celebraing brithday of Hazrat Isa in whom we beive He is the prophet of Allah and even Allah Himslef discussed his event of birthday in quran"

Tum QURAN ki wo ayat batao jis main Hazrat ESA alehay salam ki bithday ka zikar hai??aur tum kesay keh saktay ho birday manana sunnat hai?kab Hazrat Mohammadpbuh ney BIRTHDAY manai?koi saboot do.

AUR kia is video main jo dekhaya hai AANKHAIN KHOOL k dekho SHIRK ho raha hai aur ye tahir ul qadri FITNA enjoy kar raha hai sajday ko(Nauzubillah).kia ye shirk nahi?

tahir ul qadri ney Islam main changes la kar apney followers ko GUMRAH kar raha hai ,tahir ul qadri is FITNA
 

ahsanuck

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Mahathir Mohamad invited Pakistani Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri for suggestions to Improve Economy of Malaysia

I like your comments .that needs some correction...Tahir ul Qadri wants to rule not the land but hearts of the people with his love, knowledge, welfare and peace promotion in the world...!
پتہ نہیں لوگ اعلیٰ حضرت عللامہ مولانا ڈانکٹر طاہر القادری کو اتنا حقیر کیوں سمجھتے ہیں آج کل ان کی ٹکر کا ہے کون چارسو ان کے مشنری ان کے ڈنکے اس زور سے پیٹ رہے ہیں کہ کسی اور کا ڈنکا بج ہی نہیں پا رہا ہے ڈانکٹر صاحب موجودہ دور کی وہ عظیم ہستی ہیں جن کے پاس گٹکا بنانے سے لے کر پوری دنیا کی سیاسی و معاشی و اخلاقی حالات سدھارنے کا ایک نسخہ عجیب موجود ہے جو صرف و صرف ان کے اور ان کے ہی اقتدار سے مشروط ہے آپ لوگ ڈانکٹر صاحب کو ایک چانس دے کر تو دیکئے جیسے ہی ڈانکٹر صاحب کو یہ یقین ہو گیا کہ قوم ان کی آواز پر اپنی عقل کو تالا لگانے پر تیار ہے تو وہ الیکشن سے فورا پہلے پاکستان پہنچ جائیں گے اور پھر اس کے بعد ہر شخص کے ہاتھوں میں صرف ایک ہی گٹکا ہو گا یعنی ڈانکٹری گٹکا او معذرت میرا مطبل ہے کہ سب کے ہونٹوں پر ایک ہی نعرہ ہو گا آوے ہی آوے ڈانکٹر آوے اور تماشا دکھلاوے تو بس یہ ہے گل۔ تس سمجھ گے ہی ہو گئے۔
 

Aam_Admi

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Mahathir Mohamad invited Pakistani Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri for suggestions to Improve Economy of Malaysia

I like your comments .that needs some correction...Tahir ul Qadri wants to rule not the land but hearts of the people with his love, knowledge, welfare and peace promotion in the world...!
بجا ارشاد بجا ارشاد کچھ الفاظ کے فرق سے میرے اور آپ کے خیالات کتنے ملتے جلتے ہیں۔ ہیں نا!!۔ اور یہ بھی بتائیے کہ ڈانکٹر صاحب نے وہ کونسی مشین کینڈا میں فٹ کروائی ہوئی ہے جس کی ریز پاکستان تک آ کر قلوب کو مسخر کرتی ہیں لیکن نہ ہی وہ مشین اور نا ہی ڈانکٹر صاحب کسر ظلہ العالی پاکستان آتے ہیں؟


 
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ahsanuck

MPA (400+ posts)
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The machine with which Tahir ul Qadri is ruling hearts of people is "Love of Prophet PBUH" and its rays are going all over the world in the shape of his 1000 books, 7000 lectures and Minhaj ul Quran network in over 90 countries, Chartered university at Lahore, 600 Minhaj schools & colleges, Orphan house "Aghosh" for 500 boys and "Bait-Zohra" for 400 girls , free collective marriages for about 1000 couples including non-muslims, free ambulance & medical camps / entres service in 100s cities ....FYI, Tahir ul Qadri is coming to Pakistan in November this year ..
بجا ارشاد بجا ارشاد کچھ الفاظ کے فرق سے میرے اور آپ کے خیالات کتنے ملتے جلتے ہیں۔ ہیں نا!!۔ اور یہ بھی بتائیے کہ ڈانکٹر صاحب نے وہ کونسی مشین کینڈا میں فٹ کروائی ہوئی ہے جس کی ریز پاکستان تک آ کر قلوب کو مسخر کرتی ہیں لیکن نہ ہی وہ مشین اور نا ہی ڈانکٹر صاحب کسر ظلہ العالی پاکستان آتے ہیں؟


 

ricky12

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Mahathir Mohamad invited Pakistani Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri for suggestions to Improve Economy of Malaysia

About birthday status in Islam, Read this chapter then you will know how the birth of various prophets have been discussed in quran but if still you dont like celebrating birthday then it is your right, i dont argue with you nor I have any interest in you but it was my moral duty to tell my viewpoint whether you accept or not.. http://www.minhajbooks.com/english/control/btext/cid/4/bid/79/btid/268/read/img/باب%20سوم-The%20Birth%20of%20the%20Holy%20Prophet%20(PBUH).html

As far as your other wrong blame of Shirk / Sajda is concerned, it is totally a lie and nothing because no one was doing sajda to Tahir ul Qadri but he was kissing feet of Tahir ul Qadri at sudden that is also disliked by Tahir ul Qadri and if you watch the video then will look that Tahir ul Qadri was pushing him with his hand to not kiss...even this act is allowed in Isalm....one thing remember that Tahir ul Qadri can not bow down because of his backbone problem and thats the reason even he has been performing prayer while sitting on chair for many years....if you want reality of the matter and Islamic viewpoint on kissing feet then open this link but if still you insist in calling kissing feet as sajda and putting wrong words in commentary then all responsibilty is on your shoulders.. and what truth was I told you that was kissing but never sajda because sajda is not allowed in any shape to any one...if sajda is done with intention of love or respect then it is harram but if it is done with inention of worship then SHIRK...thats it..open the link if wants reality http://saifetahir.com/?p=51

Phelay tu tum ye sabit karo jo tm ney kaha hai "celebrating or remembering birthdays or special events is the Sunnah of Allah & Prophet....and celebraing brithday of Hazrat Isa in whom we beive He is the prophet of Allah and even Allah Himslef discussed his event of birthday in quran"

Mujey QURAN ki wo ayat dekhao jis main BIRTHDAY ka zikar hai??aur ye bhi batao Hazrat Mohammad pbuh ki sunnat kesay ho gai?Hazrat Mohammad pbuh ney kab manai Birthday??
 

ahsanuck

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Mahathir Mohamad invited Pakistani Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri for suggestions to Improve Economy of Malaysia

Phelay tu tum ye sabit karo jo tm ney kaha hai "celebrating or remembering birthdays or special events is the Sunnah of Allah & Prophet....and celebraing brithday of Hazrat Isa in whom we beive He is the prophet of Allah and even Allah Himslef discussed his event of birthday in quran"

Mujey QURAN ki wo ayat dekhao jis main BIRTHDAY ka zikar hai??aur ye bhi batao Hazrat Mohammad pbuh ki sunnat kesay ho gai?Hazrat Mohammad pbuh ney kab manai Birthday??
Ricky bhai, jawab day dia ha pehlay hi....lakin aap parhana hi nahi chahtay tu may kia karoon....dubara deta hoo...births of various prophet referred in Quran..open the link http://www.minhajbooks.com/english/control/btext/cid/4/bid/79/btid/268/read/img/باب%20سوم-The%20Birth%20of%20the%20Holy%20Prophet%20(PBUH).html

Baki dosray sawaal kay jawaab may ( Nabi Pak nay apna birthday hud celebrate kia ) hadith reference open karo yeh link http://www.minhajbooks.com/english/...نجم-The Birth of the Holy Prophet (PBUH).html
 

Aam_Admi

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Mahathir Mohamad invited Pakistani Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri for suggestions to Improve Economy of Malaysia

The machine with which Tahir ul Qadri is ruling hearts of people is "Love of Prophet PBUH" and its rays are going all over the world in the shape of his 1000 books, 7000 lectures and Minhaj ul Quran network in over 90 countries, Chartered university at Lahore, 600 Minhaj schools & colleges, Orphan house "Aghosh" for 500 boys and "Bait-Zohra" for 400 girls , free collective marriages for about 1000 couples including non-muslims, free ambulance & medical camps / entres service in 100s cities ....FYI, Tahir ul Qadri is coming to Pakistan in November this year ..
حضرت مجھے پتہ تھا اب آپ یہی فلاسفی جھاڑیں گئے اور اصل بات سے پہلو تہی کریں گئے یہ تو بتائیے کہ ایک ڈنگر ڈاکٹر کے بیٹے کے پاس اتنی رقم آئی کہاں سے کہ وہ یہ اخراجات پورے کرے، قوم کے چندے سے نا، سو اگر قوم سے کروڑ اکھٹے کر کہ دس بیس لاکھ واپس لگا دیئے تو کیا یہ نقصان کا سودا ہے پھر پبلسٹی اور ہیڈ آف ہز اسٹیٹ بننے کا مزا الگ، لیکن جو یہ ڈانکٹر کینڈا میں مقیم ہے تو یہ رقم کہاں سے آئی اور مسلسل آرہی ہے ذرا اس پر بھی روشنی ڈال دیجئے، اور اگر وہ مشین عشق رسول کی دولت ہوتی تو یوں منہ چھپا کر کینڈا میں نہ پڑی ہوتی۔
نواز کا امام مسجد اس سے پہلے ایک عام سا اسکالر آج کروڑوں پتی ہے کیا کہنے ڈانکٹر کے

 

ricky12

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Mahathir Mohamad invited Pakistani Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri for suggestions to Improve Economy of Malaysia

Ricky bhai, jawab day dia ha pehlay hi....lakin aap parhana hi nahi chahtay tu may kia karoon....dubara deta hoo...births of various prophet referred in Quran..open the link http://www.minhajbooks.com/english/control/btext/cid/4/bid/79/btid/268/read/img/باب%20سوم-The%20Birth%20of%20the%20Holy%20Prophet%20(PBUH).html

Baki dosray sawaal kay jawaab may ( Nabi Pak nay apna birthday hud celebrate kia ) hadith reference open karo yeh link http://www.minhajbooks.com/english/...نجم-The Birth of the Holy Prophet (PBUH).html



Bhai aap khud surah ka naam aur ayat number mujye do ,main kisi jhooti mihaj book read nahi karo ga.aap QURAN kholo aur us main se mujey SURAT ka naam aur ayat number dhoondh kar batao phir main QURAN main khud dekh lo ga .

Doosra HADEES main bhi agar aya hai tu HADEES ki kitab ka naam aur hadees number /page number batao main khud dekh lo ga.
 

warlock

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Mahathir Mohamad invited Pakistani Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri for suggestions to Improve Economy of Malaysia

Again, you are claiming to become either Allah or prophet because only Allah or Prophet knows if one is FITNA or not??? you have right to dislike tahir ul qadri but dont try to show your ignorance of the things and islamic knowledge..if you dont like him and disagree in celebrating birthdays of your kids, family memebrs, friends or birthday of your country Pakistan means...the day pakistan was come into existence 14th august...it is your right but dont put your conservative & approach into other people , espcially by giving fatwas... celebrating or remembering birthdays or special events is the Sunnah of Allah & Prophet....and celebraing brithday of Hazrat Isa in whom we beive He is the prophet of Allah and even Allah Himslef discussed his event of birthday in quran so if you have any complain then first speak against Allah.....in showing harmony being part of human society if birhtday of Hazrat isa is celebrated with chrisian brothers then there is no propblem in doing this untill we remained on our believe and christians have right to remain on their believe what so ever that is but we should be clear in our mind that we are celebrating christmass ( brithday) of prophet of Allah....Allah
:lol::lol::lol:
 

warlock

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Mahathir Mohamad invited Pakistani Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri for suggestions to Improve Economy of Malaysia

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bhai yeh dekh looo;)
 

ahsanuck

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Mahathir Mohamad invited Pakistani Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri for suggestions to Improve Economy of Malaysia

حضرت مجھے پتہ تھا اب آپ یہی فلاسفی جھاڑیں گئے اور اصل بات سے پہلو تہی کریں گئے یہ تو بتائیے کہ ایک ڈنگر ڈاکٹر کے بیٹے کے پاس اتنی رقم آئی کہاں سے کہ وہ یہ اخراجات پورے کرے، قوم کے چندے سے نا، سو اگر قوم سے کروڑ اکھٹے کر کہ دس بیس لاکھ واپس لگا دیئے تو کیا یہ نقصان کا سودا ہے پھر پبلسٹی اور ہیڈ آف ہز اسٹیٹ بننے کا مزا الگ، لیکن جو یہ ڈانکٹر کینڈا میں مقیم ہے تو یہ رقم کہاں سے آئی اور مسلسل آرہی ہے ذرا اس پر بھی روشنی ڈال دیجئے، اور اگر وہ مشین عشق رسول کی دولت ہوتی تو یوں منہ چھپا کر کینڈا میں نہ پڑی ہوتی۔
نواز کا امام مسجد اس سے پہلے ایک عام سا اسکالر آج کروڑوں پتی ہے کیا کہنے ڈانکٹر کے

...I like you because you are really "Aam Admi"...either you dont know the truth or believe in rumours and lies....and never bother to take little time to know the truth from the mouth of the person about whom lies and disinformation is being spread....Any way I try to tell you the truth and after it it is upto you to believe in lies having no proof or truth based on all proofs...first of all..Tahir ul Qadri used to address hutba Jumma at Ittefaq msoque but it was free of service and he never took a single money for that service nor any moneytary benefit from sharif family except he took loan from them once that was returned back to sharif family in total....secondly, he did PHD in law from punjab university and was professor at PU but he left late 80's just for the sake of spreading isamic message all over the world..he does all preaching , addressese and writing books free of cost , even never takes royalities on his books ..so far around 500 books are published and around 7000 lectures are available for sales and its royality commsions would be around millions a month but he never takes and has sacrificed all his life...he got canada residence on the basis of his PHD and scholarlay work not for any worldly objective but for the sake of doing research in total dedication because in pakistan all the time he had to face meetins, sittings on religious and political basis...so could not find proper time for doing research ....e.g, from 1980 to 2006 (26years) around 300 books were written but during his stay abroad for last 6 years more than 700 books have been accomplished....until early 2000 , translation of quran in urdu was done for only 10 paras but later on he not only completed urdu translation but also English translation of quran along with 100s of hadith books where one hadith book of 30000 hadith in 20 vol etc...Minhaj ul Quran has its own centres in around 50 countires while network in over 90 countries so where ever he wants, he can travel all over the world for doing research ( dont forget that all land is Allahs land and we can live any where), his own financial matters are looked after by his own small busines in which he never takes physical participation but as a sleeping partner because he has promissed to not spend any time or energy for his earning practically as he has sacrifced all his life for cause of Islam...dont forget that earning from sales of his books/lectures is more than millions a month that never took and even in Minhaj ul Quran prjects or university he never takes a single money or any earning....these prjects are run by Minhaj ul Quran head office independtly even right from beging he is not authorize to sign the cheque so he has no financial involvment with either project....one more reason of staying abroad was to focus on young generations living in europe, usa/canada as before his stay abraod only around 10 books were written in english and few lectrues in english but after his stay he has addressed 90 % lectures in english and written 100s books in english including his historical fatwa on terroris...Pakistan is only 17crore pop usa /canada is around 40crore so now he wants to focus to revive the faith of young generation and also to remove wrong blames of terrorism on Islam and promote Islam is the religion of peacem , love and interfaith harmony..! http://www.drtahirulqadri.com/main/research-works-of-shaykh-ul-islam/
 

warlock

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Mahathir Mohamad invited Pakistani Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri for suggestions to Improve Economy of Malaysia

(yapping)(yapping)...........................................................................
 
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ahsanuck

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Mahathir Mohamad invited Pakistani Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri for suggestions to Improve Economy of Malaysia

You dont want to know the truth nor wants to read quran nor hadith but just beating about the bush....if you call minhaj ul quran and tahir ul qadri Jhota then whatelse is expected from you....you believe what you like..I dont want to argue with you nor have any interest in you but if still you really want truth and reference then open the links already given and find the quranic and hadith reference in those two chapters others be happy and enjoy your life in ignorance..!..
Bhai aap khud surah ka naam aur ayat number mujye do ,main kisi jhooti mihaj book read nahi karo ga.aap QURAN kholo aur us main se mujey SURAT ka naam aur ayat number dhoondh kar batao phir main QURAN main khud dekh lo ga .

Doosra HADEES main bhi agar aya hai tu HADEES ki kitab ka naam aur hadees number /page number batao main khud dekh lo ga.
 

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