Durood, Peer, Namaz By Janab Sarfraz Ahmad Shah Sahaab

sdmuashr

Senator (1k+ posts)

Assalam o Alaikum,

I wonder you are propagating the message of a person (may be as sheikh) who does not even have a beard.
Dear brother if you seek guidance on religious issues please visit the following websites. Here you will find everything from the fundamental beliefs of Islam to Fiqh, from Islahi bayans to the opportunity to get under the supervision of a true Sheikh, from simple Duroods to books on Duroods, from Tafseer of single verse to the Tafseer of the whole Quran and much more.

Please visit


http://www.darsequran.com/index.php
http://www.khanqah.org/
http://www.deeneislam.com/
http://www.ahsanululoom.com/
http://thedefendersoftruth.com/
http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.com/
http://kr-hcy.com/
 

barkat

Councller (250+ posts)
Assalam o Alaikum,

I wonder you are propagating the message of a person (may be as sheikh) who does not even have a beard.
Dear brother if you seek guidance on religious issues please visit the following websites. Here you will find everything from the fundamental beliefs of Islam to Fiqh, from Islahi bayans to the opportunity to get under the supervision of a true Sheikh, from simple Duroods to books on Duroods, from Tafseer of single verse to the Tafseer of the whole Quran and much more.

Please visit


http://www.darsequran.com/index.php
http://www.khanqah.org/
http://www.deeneislam.com/
http://www.ahsanululoom.com/
http://thedefendersoftruth.com/
http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.com/
http://kr-hcy.com/

Bhai jaan ELM ki qadar karao, jahan se bhi melay,,, HADEES main hai hikmat ki baat lay lo chahay munafiq se milay ,,,
or rahi beard ki baat mojuda dour main beard waloon nai jo jahalat ka tamasha machaya hua hai, wo youtube pe ja k dekh lo
or jo bohat sari websites ka aap nai zikr kiya,,, unmain bhi bohat sa firqa-warana or nafrat wala material aap ko mill jaay ga i bet you on this, even i havent seen these websites,,, lakin experience hai
isi daarhi k dhookay ki waja se jahill muslims nai taleban zaleman ghaday ghoroon ko accept kiya or dekh lo kitna faiz pohanchaya hai unhoon nai
plz elm ki qadar kero, yehe samajh lo college mai islamiyat ka teacher kuch achi batain bata raha hai
 

sdmuashr

Senator (1k+ posts)
Bhai jaan ELM ki qadar karao, jahan se bhi melay,,, HADEES main hai hikmat ki baat lay lo chahay munafiq se milay ,,,
or rahi beard ki baat mojuda dour main beard waloon nai jo jahalat ka tamasha machaya hua hai, wo youtube pe ja k dekh lo
or jo bohat sari websites ka aap nai zikr kiya,,, unmain bhi bohat sa firqa-warana or nafrat wala material aap ko mill jaay ga i bet you on this, even i havent seen these websites,,, lakin experience hai
isi daarhi k dhookay ki waja se jahill muslims nai taleban zaleman ghaday ghoroon ko accept kiya or dekh lo kitna faiz pohanchaya hai unhoon nai
plz elm ki qadar kero, yehe samajh lo college mai islamiyat ka teacher kuch achi batain bata raha hai


Assalam o Alaikum,

Just read the last three lines of the last paragraph of this Fatwa


http://www.deeneislam.com/ur/horiz/halate_hazra/1419/article.php?CID=1419
 

dukelondon

Senator (1k+ posts)
@barkat

Aap sdmuashr say abhi waqif nahi hain. Is say behas karnay ka koi faida nahi hai. Ye masoom insaano ko qatal karnay aur un kay qatal pay jashan mananay walon mein say hai aur apni is darindigi ko Islam ka naam deta hai, Naoozubillah. Jo links ye deta hai wo bhi Shayateen Takfiri websites kay hain jahan logo ko Kafir kehnay, murtid aur Wajib-ul-qatl qaraar denay aur qatal karnay ki training di jaati hai. Aap bas Allah(SWT) ki panah maangein is kay shar say. :jazak:

La.anatullah-e-Ala Qaum-uz-Zalimeen
 
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Salik

Senator (1k+ posts)


Assalam o Alaikum,

Just read the last three lines of the last paragraph of this Fatwa



By the way Fatwa is the best tool the Moulvis use against each other...

and kindly can you find the Asnaad (chain) of this hadith and provide me a unanimous opinion about the following "fact" presented in the so called Fatwa...

at your very precious website...

http://www.deeneislam.com/ur/horiz/halate_hazra/1419/article.php?CID=1419

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Kindly find the opinions of the Scholars where the classify the above quoted Hadith as "Sahih" ... and there should be unanimity...

Because your Fatwa generating machines are forbidding something ... I keep dearer than my life.. Yes... the recitation of Quran.. If somebody asks me to stop reciting for just one day....I ll probably die of depression.. How can your so called scholars ask the women to stop reciting for weeks during menstruation and months after child birth (their would be many who would think the same as I do...)

AND above all ... they are forbidding something that Allah SWT and His messenger pbuh have not forbidden....



I am waiting...


You better come up with strong answer showing a unanimous opinion...

O Yes.. by the way.. I do have a beard... so probably I might qualify to your standards...
 
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Jshah

Minister (2k+ posts)
Guys,

Remove this video asap. His whole discussion is from his own thinking and his personal so call logic.
He is not presenting the Holy Quran and Sunnat e Rasool. Though, he intention is good Insha Allah, but he lacks basic Islamic knowledge. He has to read a lot to present Islam properly.

The concept of workship and its limit he has presented is beyond Islamic teaching.

Please remove this post asap.
 

sdmuashr

Senator (1k+ posts)
By the way Fatwa is the best tool the Moulvis use against each other...

and kindly can you find the Asnaad (chain) of this hadith and provide me a unanimous opinion about the following "fact" presented in the so called Fatwa...

at your very precious website...

http://www.deeneislam.com/ur/horiz/halate_hazra/1419/article.php?CID=1419

13ce01f308db7942bb26e45cf28dac3b.jpg


Kindly find the opinions of the Scholars where the classify the above quoted Hadith as "Sahih" ... and there should be unanimity...

Because your Fatwa generating machines are forbidding something ... I keep dearer than my life.. Yes... the recitation of Quran.. If somebody asks me to stop reciting for just one day....I ll probably die of depression.. How can your so called scholars ask the women to stop reciting for weeks during menstruation and months after child birth (their would be many who would think the same as I do...)

AND above all ... they are forbidding something that Allah SWT and His messenger pbuh have not forbidden....



I am waiting...


You better come up with a unanimous strong answer...

Assalam o Alaikum,

Do you have the formal education of Islam from any reputable institution?
Commenting or researching on the credibility of any Hadith is the task of Ulema. Common persons better get the formal education of deen (i.e. become proper Alim/Alima or Mufti) or trust credible Ulema.

Moreover we pray because Allah commanded us to do but not to please our Nafs. So if Allah and his Porphet (pbuh) forbid us from praying at certain times or with certain conditions we must do accordingly.

Your comments show that the Ulema issue fatwa with out any education or research. I give you the links of some articles for reading just to get the glimpse. It just shows the way true scholars get their education and become able to give Fatwa. Just read it

http://deeneislam.com/ur/verti/dars/ilm_hadees/ULMA_E_HADEES/article.php?CID=7&cp=0
http://deeneislam.com/ur/verti/madaris/course/outline/article.php?CID=398
http://deeneislam.com/ur/verti/madaris/course/curriculum/article.php?CID=396
http://deeneislam.com/ur/verti/madaris/course/books/article.php?CID=397
http://deeneislam.com/ur/verti/madaris/course/books/article.php?CID=397http://deeneislam.com/ur/verti/madaris/course/introduction/article.php?CID=395

as far as your question is concerned, ask here for details

http://deeneislam.com/fatwa/
http://askimam.org/
 

Jshah

Minister (2k+ posts)
Regarding Fatwa, please remember, no Scholars in Indo Pak, do qualify to issue Fatwa.
In order to give Fatwa, you need to do Ijtehad, and its forbidden in most of the Muslim countries across the world.
Only and only, Saudi Arabia has that level of Scholars, who can issue Fatwa, as there is a Islamic Government, and a huge majority of the Saudi nation is practicing Islam.
No concession while we discuss religious, everything has to be well according to the Holy Qurand and the practices of the Prophet PBUH.
Regards,
 

Salik

Senator (1k+ posts)

Assalam o Alaikum,

Do you have the formal education of Islam from any reputable institution?
Commenting or researching on the credibility of any Hadith is the task of Ulema. Common persons better get the formal education of deen (i.e. become proper Alim/Alima or Mufti) or trust credible Ulema.

Moreover we pray because Allah commanded us to do but not to please our Nafs. So if Allah and his Porphet (pbuh) forbid us from praying at certain times or with certain conditions we must do accordingly.

Your comments show that the Ulema issue fatwa with out any education or research. I give you the links of some articles for reading just to get the glimpse. It just shows the way true scholars get their education and become able to give Fatwa. Just read it

http://deeneislam.com/ur/verti/dars/ilm_hadees/ULMA_E_HADEES/article.php?CID=7&cp=0
http://deeneislam.com/ur/verti/madaris/course/outline/article.php?CID=398
http://deeneislam.com/ur/verti/madaris/course/curriculum/article.php?CID=396
http://deeneislam.com/ur/verti/madaris/course/books/article.php?CID=397
http://deeneislam.com/ur/verti/madaris/course/books/article.php?CID=397http://deeneislam.com/ur/verti/madaris/course/introduction/article.php?CID=395

as far as your question is concerned, ask here for details

http://deeneislam.com/fatwa/
http://askimam.org/

Define credible Ulema please... If you think the Ulema which issued this Fatwa... Even a layman like me can pick holes in their fatwa... So how can I consider them as credible...

By the way ... I did research on research of the Asnaad of Hadith which was quoted and then asked you... you better get back to them and ask why they plainly lied about the Sanad of a Hadith??? Why did they call it Sahih when it is NOT... and you call them Ulema..... Shame on you... and Shame on them...

Why dont your so called Ulema fear Allah SWT when they make up things???


My comment do not show it... they prove it... If you think other wise... Go and get some evidence... I have provided you with a piece from your so called fatwa... and asked for evidence... instead of providing it.. you are asking me to go through a dozen webpages and links... Could you kindly read all this stuff yourself... and give a concise reply...as I do not want to go through these hate mongering websites...



By the way...

I have common sense... and I have been ordered to use it...so I use it... and yes.. I read Quran with Understanding Alhamdulillah... and I dont follow the so called Ulema blindly .. because Quran tells me what the so called Ulema of Bani Isreal did... and Hadith Nabwi pbuh tells me that this Ummah will do the the same... in every aspect...



Do the your so called Ulema have medical education, Engineering education, Political education... No... but they think it is their duty to poke their nose in every thing... Many of them go in great depths... and ignore common sense... whenever they are confronted... they say...

اصل میں اس میں تھوڑا اختلاف ہے۔۔۔۔

If a doctor will tell a layman like you that he will operate your knee joint because you have stomachache.... will you just take his word because he went to a medical school or use your brains a bit???


Forbidding of Allah SWT and his Prophet pbuh is something else... and forbidding of Ulema is something else... and NOBODY has a right to make Haram what Allah SWT has made Halal... even your precious so called Ulema...

حجت صرف اللہ اور اس كا رسول ص ہیں۔۔۔ باقی كسی پر سوال اٹھانے كا حق ہمیں حاصل ہے۔۔۔

Barelwi Ulemas say Deobandis are Kafir....

Shia Ulemas say we are Kafir...

Deobandi Ulemas say Berailwi are Bidati...

All of them say Ahl e Hadith (Ghair Muqallid) are Gumrah!! going to hell...

Ahl e Hadith Say all of them are Mushrik or something else...

All are Ulema... "educated" at the religious seminaries... (which is a qualification I require to comment according to you) So who do I believe??

وعليكم اسلام ورحمت الله و بركاته
 
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sdmuashr

Senator (1k+ posts)
Define credible Ulema please... If you think the Ulema which issued this Fatwa... Even a layman like me can pick holes in their fatwa... So how can I consider them as credible...

By the way ... I did research on research of the Asnaad of Hadith which was quoted and then asked you... you better get back to them and ask why they plainly lied about the Sanad of a Hadith??? Why did they call it Sahih when it is NOT... and you call them Ulema..... Shame on you... and Shame on them...

Why dont your so called Ulema fear Allah SWT when you make up things???


My comment do not show it... they prove it... If you think other wise... Go and get some evidence... I have provided you with a piece from your so called fatwa... and asked for evidence... instead of providing it.. you are asking me to go through a dozen webpages and links... Could you kindly read all this stuff yourself... and give a concise reply...as I do not want to go through these hate mongering websites...



By the way...

I have common sense... and I have been ordered to use it...so I use it... and yes.. I read Quran with Understanding Alhamdulillah... and I dont follow the so called Ulema blindly .. because Quran tells me what the so called Ulema of Bani Isreal did... and Hadith Nabwi pbuh tells me that this Ummah will do the the same... in every aspect...



Do the your so called Ulema have medical education, Engineering education, Political education... No... but they think it is their duty to poke their nose in every thing... Many of them go in great depths... and ignore common sense... whenever they are confronted... they say...

اصل میں اس میں تھوڑا اختلاف ہے۔۔۔۔

If a doctor will tell a layman like you that he will operate your knee joint because you have stomachache.... will you just take his word because he went to a medical school or use your brains a bit???


Forbidding of Allah SWT and his Prophet pbuh is something else... and forbidding of Ulema is something else... and NOBODY has a right to make Haram what Allah SWT has made Halal... even your precious so called Ulema...

وعليكم اسلام ورحمت الله و بركاته

Assalam o Alaikum,

If a doctor will tell a layman like you that he will operate your knee joint because you have stomachache.... will you just take his word because he went to a medical school or use your brains a bit???
What a silly example!!! Will the doctor's community also agree on the treatment of stomachache by operating knee?

  1. On the credibility or non-credibility of any Hadith there exist agreements of Ulema and if I am not mistaken this knowledge or technique is called Asma ur rijal.
  2. Remember!!! reading something does not mean that you understood that. If it had been the case then there had had never been the need of prophets.
  3. Your comment show that you want something that pleases you that is the reason that you did not read the links.
  4. From your comment that layman like you can find out the hole in their fatwa, a famous story comes to the mind in which a graduated person was humiliated by illiterate persons in his village because the graduated person told his fellow villagers that he had B.A. And one of the stupid villager cut joke that he spent so many years and learned two words which are wrong i.e. in reverse order.
  5. As far as defining credible Ulemas are concerned I went one step further and gave you their websites. So spend some time listening to them, reading the material if you really want the right path.
  6. Yes one must understand the Quran and Hadith but how? with which interpretations? Your own? Your own understanding? or the understanding which are handed over to us by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) through his Sahab (:razi:), Tabe'en, Taba Tabe'en and the following Ulemas of Ahl e Sunnat of Jammat.
  7. You did research, fine. Why do you ask me? I did not issue the Fatwa. I am satisfied with their (who gave this fatwa) education & research. You are not satisfied so ask them (those who issued it) the question/challenge them so that you get satisfactory answers. I have already provided you with the corresponding links. (If I had direct connection with these Ulemas I could have given you the answer by now. But you live in Karachi, Pakistan so you can meet them.).
  8. True Ulema never make any Halal thing Haram or Haram thing Halal. I would highly recommend (instead of the fact that you would not listen) you that you listen to the following bayan to have some understanding.
http://deeneislam.com/ur/horiz/sotiyat/mufti_taqi_usmani/226_ Mujahida e Nafs 12082007.wma

for some more

http://deeneislam.com/ur/v4/main.ph...i Muhammad Taqi Usmani&checksum=my.HlRHcdQlr2
http://deeneislam.com/ur/v4/main.ph...ti Abdul Rauf Sakharvi&checksum=my.HlRHcdQlr2
 

barkat

Councller (250+ posts)


Assalam o Alaikum,

Just read the last three lines of the last paragraph of this Fatwa


http://www.deeneislam.com/ur/horiz/halate_hazra/1419/article.php?CID=1419

agar aap in nafrat wali websitess se maruub hain tou aap ka Allah hafiz,,,,
do you know, in the mulla regime every one has launched kufr or mushrik fatwas against each other,,, example is brelvi and deobandi molanas which are in majority in pakistan , may be 90% altogether, they do not accept each other, clearly written in their books,,, TV pe aa k ye sab insaan k bachay ban jatay hain, or koi ikhtelafi batain nahi kertay,, jutay jo parengay,,,, Allah ki qasam polititians se zada seyasat hoti hai in main,,,, aap kisi ko ghalti se aagaah kerain, ap k khelaf fatwa tayyar hoga,,,, im SUNNI but i hate anyone doing hate preaching,,,, is liye sirf un aalims ki baat mano jo hate preach na karain,,, dekh lo k kiski baat se non-muslims islam se nafrat kernay lagtay hain, or kin ki baat unhain achi lagti hai,,, islam se muslims or non-muslims ko duur kernay ka sehra unhe type k molvees or websites k sar jata hai jin se aap maruub nazar aatay hain ,,,, aap jis dunya main rehtay ho yani in fatwoon ki , un se ham bhi guzray huay hain apni jawani main , aik zamanay mai ham bhi aesi he batain kertay hain, magar abb Allah ka karam hai,,, no tollerance against any hate preacher on the basis of their interpretitions
Thanks.
 

sdmuashr

Senator (1k+ posts)
agar aap in nafrat wali websitess se maruub hain tou aap ka Allah hafiz,,,,
do you know, in the mulla regime every one has launched kufr or mushrik fatwas against each other,,, example is brelvi and deobandi molanas which are in majority in pakistan , may be 90% altogether, they do not accept each other, clearly written in their books,,, TV pe aa k ye sab insaan k bachay ban jatay hain, or koi ikhtelafi batain nahi kertay,, jutay jo parengay,,,, Allah ki qasam polititians se zada seyasat hoti hai in main,,,, aap kisi ko ghalti se aagaah kerain, ap k khelaf fatwa tayyar hoga,,,, im SUNNI but i hate anyone doing hate preaching,,,, is liye sirf un aalims ki baat mano jo hate preach na karain,,, dekh lo k kiski baat se non-muslims islam se nafrat kernay lagtay hain, or kin ki baat unhain achi lagti hai,,, islam se muslims or non-muslims ko duur kernay ka sehra unhe type k molvees or websites k sar jata hai jin se aap maruub nazar aatay hain ,,,, aap jis dunya main rehtay ho yani in fatwoon ki , un se ham bhi guzray huay hain apni jawani main , aik zamanay mai ham bhi aesi he batain kertay hain, magar abb Allah ka karam hai,,, no tollerance against any hate preacher on the basis of their interpretitions
Thanks.

Assalam o Alaikum,


  1. The Ulemas I recommend whom I myself listen to, do not spread hatred. These Ulemas are against sectarianism. However, it is the duty of Ulemas to tell people about the right or wrong. They are doing the same job which all Prophets (P.B.U.H) and Sahaba (:razi:) did. All prophets (P.B.U.H) spoke against evil beliefs and therefore people of that time intensely criticized them.
  2. It is the responsibility of every Muslim to seek the true interpretations and true interpretations can not be obtained in isolation. Therefore, one first has to find out the right people and then get attached to them.
  3. This is what these website do. That is, they preach love for everyone (Muslims or Non-Muslims) but at same time they also alert Muslims about the wrong beliefs with undeniable solid proofs.
  4. You also mentioned that you are Sunni but you are confused as to which School of thought i.e. Deobandi or Bralvi is correct. So, I give you a hint. They both claim that they are Hanafi therefore get some old books (i.e. which are written atleast 200 years ago before the occupation of British on India) of Fiqh Hanafi and compare the beliefs written in those old books with the books of Deobandi & Bralvi. You yourself will find out which group is the right one because the right group will have the same beliefs and interpretations as that of old ones.
  5. I recommend you that you visit these websites and listen and read the material. Only then you can appreciate the importance of finding the truth and telling others about it.
http://www.darsequran.com/index.php
http://www.khanqah.org/
http://deeneislam.com/