Halloween Party in Jeddah, reveals WikiLeaks

ishwaq

Minister (2k+ posts)
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JEDDAH: US diplomat in Saudi Arab described in the cable that he attended the underground Halloween Party in Jeddah in 2009 where Saudi Princes among more than 150 Saudi men and women were present, most in their 20s and 30s.

The cable also revealed that the Halloween Party broke all the country's Islamic taboos.

A US company also put up some of the finance, cable added.

US diplomat also told that the party was held under strict security.

Commenting on Halloween Party, he said that such parties are only held behind closed doors and for the very rich.

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http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/dec2010-daily/08-12-2010/u55206.htm
 
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Rana Tahir Mahmood

Senator (1k+ posts)
By AFP
RIYADH - Saudi Arabia might be an ultra-strict Islamic society, but princes' mansions in Jeddah hide a buzzing party scene replete with alcohol, drugs and sex, according to a leaked US diplomatic memo.

"Behind the facade of Wahabi conservatism in the streets, the underground nightlife for Jeddah's elite youth is thriving and throbbing," said the November 2009 cable, released by the WikiLeaks website.

"The full range of worldly temptations and vices are available -- alcohol, drugs, sex -- but strictly behind closed doors," it said.

"This freedom to indulge carnal pursuits is possible merely because the religious police keep their distance when parties include the presence or patronage of a Saudi royal and his circle of loyal attendants."

The cable, from the US consulate in the Red Sea city, described a Halloween party attended by 150 people mostly in their 20s and 30s, including consulate personnel.

"The scene resembled a nightclub anywhere outside the kingdom: plentiful alcohol, young couples dancing, a DJ at the turntables, and everyone in costume."

Big Jeddah parties -- also often attended by prostitutes -- are a recent phenomenon, according to the consulate.

One Saudi told the consulate that wealthy locals try to throw parties at princes' homes or with princes in attendance so that the religious police can be kept away.

It also said that the high price of smuggled alcohol -- a bottle of Smirnoff vodka can cost 1,500 riyals, or 400 dollars -- sometimes forces party hosts to refill original bottles with the harsh, locally bootlegged spirit sadiqi.

Producing and selling alcohol inside the kingdom can earn a person an extremely stiff jail sentence, and drug trafficking is punishable by death under the kingdom's strict interpretation of Islamic sharia law.
 

Rana Tahir Mahmood

Senator (1k+ posts)
By AFP
RIYADH - Saudi Arabia might be an ultra-strict Islamic society, but princes' mansions in Jeddah hide a buzzing party scene replete with alcohol, drugs and sex, according to a leaked US diplomatic memo.

"Behind the facade of Wahabi conservatism in the streets, the underground nightlife for Jeddah's elite youth is thriving and throbbing," said the November 2009 cable, released by the WikiLeaks website.

"The full range of worldly temptations and vices are available -- alcohol, drugs, sex -- but strictly behind closed doors," it said.

"This freedom to indulge carnal pursuits is possible merely because the religious police keep their distance when parties include the presence or patronage of a Saudi royal and his circle of loyal attendants."

The cable, from the US consulate in the Red Sea city, described a Halloween party attended by 150 people mostly in their 20s and 30s, including consulate personnel.

"The scene resembled a nightclub anywhere outside the kingdom: plentiful alcohol, young couples dancing, a DJ at the turntables, and everyone in costume."

Big Jeddah parties -- also often attended by prostitutes -- are a recent phenomenon, according to the consulate.

One Saudi told the consulate that wealthy locals try to throw parties at princes' homes or with princes in attendance so that the religious police can be kept away.

It also said that the high price of smuggled alcohol -- a bottle of Smirnoff vodka can cost 1,500 riyals, or 400 dollars -- sometimes forces party hosts to refill original bottles with the harsh, locally bootlegged spirit sadiqi.

Producing and selling alcohol inside the kingdom can earn a person an extremely stiff jail sentence, and drug trafficking is punishable by death under the kingdom's strict interpretation of Islamic sharia law.
 

hassam

MPA (400+ posts)
when I see all these things I have to say that Pakistanies are much better than arabs. They at least raise their voice against anything but arabs are in deep slumber.
 

jatala

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
WikiLeaks cables: Saudi princes throw parties boasting drink, drugs and sex

In what may prove a particularly incendiary cable, US diplomats describe a world of sex, drugs and rock'n'roll behind the official pieties of Saudi Arabian royalty.

Jeddah consulate officials described an underground Halloween party, thrown last year by a member of the royal family, which broke all the country's Islamic taboos. Liquor and prostitutes were present in abundance, according to leaked dispatches, behind the heavily-guarded villa gates.

The party was thrown by a wealthy prince from the large Al-Thunayan family. The diplomats said his identity should be kept secret. A US energy drinks company also put up some of the finance.

"Alcohol, though strictly prohibited by Saudi law and custom, was plentiful at the party's well-stocked bar. The hired Filipino bartenders served a cocktail punch using sadiqi, a locally-made moonshine," the cable said. "It was also learned through word-of-mouth that a number of the guests were in fact 'working girls', not uncommon for such parties."

The dispatch from the US partygoers, signed off by the consul in Jeddah, Martin Quinn, added: "Though not witnessed directly at this event, cocaine and hashish use is common in these social circles."

The underground party scene is "thriving and throbbing" in Saudi Arabia thanks to the protection of Saudi royalty, the dispatch said. But it is only available behind closed doors and for the very rich.

More than 150 Saudi men and women, most in their 20s and 30s, were at the party. The patronage of royalty meant the feared religious police kept a distance. Admission was controlled through a strict guest list. "The scene resembled a nightclub anywhere outside the kingdom: plentiful alcohol, young couples dancing, a DJ at the turntables and everyone in costume."

The dispatch said the bar featured a top shelf of well-known brands of liquor, the original contents reportedly replaced with sadiqi. On the black market, they reported, a bottle of Smirnoff vodka can cost 1,500 riyals (250) compared with 100 riyals (16) for the locally-made vodka.

In a venture into Saudi sociology, the diplomats explained why they thought their host was so attached to Nigerian bodyguards, some of whom were working on the door. "Most of the prince's security forces were young Nigerian men. It is common practice for Saudi princes to grow up with hired bodyguards from Nigeria or other African nations who are of similar age and who remain with the prince well into adulthood. The lifetime spent together creates an intense bond of loyalty"

The cable claimed it was easy for would-be partygoers to find a patron out of more than 10,000 princes in the kingdom. Some are "royal highnesses" with direct descent from King Abdul Aziz, while others are "highnesses" from less direct branches.

One young Saudi told the diplomat that big parties were a recent trend. Even a few years ago, he said, the only weekend activity was "dating" among small groups who met inside the homes of the rich. Some of the more opulent houses in Jeddah feature basement bars, discos and clubs. One high-society Saudi said: "The increased conservatism of our society over these past years has only moved social interaction to the inside of people's homes."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/07/wikileaks-cables-saudi-princes-parties
 
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QaiserMirza

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Again I will say that you can not blame the whole nation by the character of one person or handful of persons.
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Nothing surprise me anymore after listening, watching and seeing the absloutely hypocratical behaviour of Saudi, UAE and other Arab royal family members. There was this known understanding that something of this nature is ramped in Arab countries, but now we have evidence of their low life and pathetically slave minded personalities. If anyone still blindly have faith in these low lives gutter mentality people, then I will only cry on their naivety and stupidity. As far as the Pakistani politicians are concerened, I do not think they deserve any credit of behaving better than these arab leaders.
 

hassam

MPA (400+ posts)
Again I will say that you can not blame the whole nation by the character of one person or handful of persons.

I did not say that Arabs as a nation are prevert. If you read my note I am comparing the two based on their willingness to raise their voice agains the evil of the society and the leadership. No doubts Pakistanies are more corrupt but it is becuase of the evil of poverty and lawlessness but the country still has some of those Momineens that raise their voice against the evil doing of the leadership. Arabs on the other hands are satisfied with what they have and they keep issuing fatwas against Sufism and any non-wahabism. Even their Imams who lead the prayers in the KabatulAllah do not dare to rasie their voice against the monarchy. Just being in that city should have given enough courage and taqwa to an Alim to speak the truth and raise his voice against the pervert royal family. So looks like they are suffering the phase of Muskinat and Zillat, that they do not have enough courage to speak the truth. However, there are at least few in Pakistan that do.
 

Abdali

Senator (1k+ posts)
LOL..WHAT A FRAUD..Every criminal arab agent ruler must be hanged.These inbreds are the GUARDIANS OF TWO HOLY CITIES?? My suggestion is take the possesion and security of these holy cities from these american jewish agents. Security should on Rotation, every year from all muslim countries. this is the reason
We are in a moral decay.
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
LOL..WHAT A FRAUD..Every criminal arab agent ruler must be hanged.These inbreds are the GUARDIANS OF TWO HOLY CITIES?? My suggestion is take the possesion and security of these holy cities from these american jewish agents. Security should on Rotation, every year from all muslim countries. this is the reason
We are in a moral decay.


And by glancing the whole Muslim World, which country which you think doesn't have Jew Agents in its lines ?
 
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Abdali

Senator (1k+ posts)
IRAN IRAN IRAN..GREAT COUNTRY GREAT PEOPLE NOT BOWING TO THE ZIONIST CONTROL CRIMINAL EMPIRE OF SATAN.Good one zaidi..lol
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This only happens in Saudi Arab. This cannot happen in Iran.
"The full range of worldly temptations and vices are available -- alcohol, drugs, sex -- but strictly behind closed doors."
If you want to get your readers' attention, it's not a bad way to start. The language comes from a short but tantalizing U.S. diplomatic cable sent last year from the consulate in Jeddah in Saudi Arabia -- where alcohol is banned and carnal relations strictly regulated.
"Behind the facade of Wahabi conservatism in the streets, the underground nightlife for Jeddah's elite youth is thriving and throbbing," the cable begins.
In evidence, then Consul General Martin Quinn refers to a Halloween party last year. The redacted cable reads: "Along with over 150 young Saudis (men and women mostly in their 20s and early 30s), ConGenOffs accepted invitations to an underground Halloween party at Prince XXXX residence in Jeddah on XXXX."
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This only happens in Saudi Arab. This cannot happen in Iran.

And you say that only because you see Ahmedinijad sleeping on floors??

I have plenty of Iranian friends in uni here in Norway who openly tell us that they have all the booze and drugs at parties in their houses and I have seen pictures of them in skinny dresses and gyrating to club music under strobe lights on custom built dance floors in their homes. The liberal people in Iran are twice as liberal as the ones in Pakistan I can assure you of that.
The most liberal Pakistani will not touch pork or non-halal meat but the Iranians couldn't care less and almost all of them eat whatever is served to them.
Bear in mind that these Iranians are born and bred in Iran and not somewhere in Europe so I can assure you from first hand knowledge that the underground scene in Iran is way more advanced than the one in S.A.
 

hassam

MPA (400+ posts)
And you say that only because you see Ahmedinijad sleeping on floors??

I have plenty of Iranian friends in uni here in Norway who openly tell us that they have all the booze and drugs at parties in their houses and I have seen pictures of them in skinny dresses and gyrating to club music under strobe lights on custom built dance floors in their homes. The liberal people in Iran are twice as liberal as the ones in Pakistan I can assure you of that.
The most liberal Pakistani will not touch pork or non-halal meat but the Iranians couldn't care less and almost all of them eat whatever is served to them.
Bear in mind that these Iranians are born and bred in Iran and not somewhere in Europe so I can assure you from first hand knowledge that the underground scene in Iran is way more advanced than the one in S.A.

Awan is not wrong. There are two extremes in Iran.
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
And you say that only because you see Ahmedinijad sleeping on floors??

I have plenty of Iranian friends in uni here in Norway who openly tell us that they have all the booze and drugs at parties in their houses and I have seen pictures of them in skinny dresses and gyrating to club music under strobe lights on custom built dance floors in their homes. The liberal people in Iran are twice as liberal as the ones in Pakistan I can assure you of that.
The most liberal Pakistani will not touch pork or non-halal meat but the Iranians couldn't care less and almost all of them eat whatever is served to them.
Bear in mind that these Iranians are born and bred in Iran and not somewhere in Europe so I can assure you from first hand knowledge that the underground scene in Iran is way more advanced than the one in S.A.

I have met many Iranians who left their country after the Khumeni Revolution and settled in west. These Iranians were born and raised in Iran during Shah's regime and still regret the overthrowing of this dictatorial regime. They were completely westernised living in Iran and shocked to even think of living under Khomeni 's regime. They left Iran on the first opportunity and their generations are born outside of Iran and look as western as one can be. It will be a mistake to look at their life style and compare the rest of the Iranian Nation. I believe , there are still some even now in Iran, who hate Islamic Revolution and pray every day for the return of good old days of shah. On the other hand, there are some others who do not like the direction of their leadership and their country being portrayed as a terrorist state within west. There are still others who are living in Iran and are real patriotic Iranians and feel supressed with the red tape, corruption and nepotisim within the Iranian Society.


There is always a possibility of bad apples in every orchid. But there has to be a responsible government which implement the laws and ensure that dignity of the country and the lives of their citizens are safe and secure. In this regard, one can look at the other Muslim Countries and compare Iran to them and see the difference.
 
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awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I have met many Iranians who left their country after the Khumeni Revolution and settle in west. These Iranians were born and raised in Iran during Shah's regime and still regret the overthrowing of this dictatorial regime. They were completely westernised living in Iran and shocked to even think of living under Khomeni 's regime. They left Iran on the first opportunity and their generations are born outside of Iran and look as western as one can be. It will be a mistake to look at their life style and compare the rest of the Iranian Nation. I believe , there are still some even now in Iran, who hate Islamic Revolution and pray every day for the return of good old days of shah. On the other hand, there are some others who do not like the direction of their leadership and their country being portrayed as a terrorist state within west. There are still others who are living in Iran and are real patriotic Iranians and feel supressed with the red tape, corruption and nepotisim within the Iranian Society.


There is always a possibility of bad apples in every orchid. But there has to be a responsible government which implement the laws and ensure that dignity of the country and the lives of their citizens are safe and secure. In this regard, one can look at the other Muslim Countries and compare Iran to them and see the difference.

The recent Iranian elections in which Ahmedinijad won by a slim margin and that too a disputed one shows the decline in popularity of the revolutionaries and the rising power of the liberals. The liberals are in a great number in Iran contrary to what the Iranians show to the outside world on their media and they live their lives in a very liberal way inside their homes. All the people I have met here are born and bred IN Iran and their families are still back there.

Anyway I have nothing against the liberals of Iran because whatever they do inside their homes is their business.
 

Rana Tahir Mahmood

Senator (1k+ posts)
I stayed in Iran after the so called Islamic revolution and observed closely their society and found that outside it looks very clean and pure Islamic because of restriction by the government but everything is available in the society and people are living their lives. When first time went there and watched the society I was much impressed by the Khomeini revolution but I was very much surprised when I went on home leave getting into board the aircraft. Every lady was very well covered and every body was looked very pious. After the aircraft took off from the runway and gain the normal flight altitude then the passengers were going to open and came in their modern living and put off their black covers and exposed to the world as they were completely living hypocrite life while in Iran.

In reality, if you suppress the human being from being go with the pace of the rest of the world then it is unacceptable to any human being. It shows the hypocrisy attitude in so called Muslim societies where the power-full faction of the population enjoying what they like and Islamic restriction are only for those who is called "RIYAYA". In any Muslim country I have not observed any equal opportunity life for all the human being.
 

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