How Can you Beat them? Even the Kids, Women, Old and the Disabled are Imran

jigrot

Minister (2k+ posts)
There are lot of misconceptions when you compare the situation of East Pakistan to the current political divide. The Bengalis of East Pakistan had very few things common between them and the people of West Pakistan. Their language, cultural values were lot closer to Hindus than with the people of West Pakistan. Beside religion, there is hardly anything you can find which can keep them coexisting with West Pakistan.
Mujeeb exploited those differences to achieve his interest to rule and he never rose above himself to keep the larger interest of nation. It was much easier for him to threaten to breakup the country until and unless the power is not given to him . There is no doubt that he deserved to rule the country as a result of the elections.
Now, the result of those election did nothing to bring stability to the country but caused a bigger rift than it was there to begin with.

As far as I am concerned, I see this as a gross failure of political parties than the army defeat. Had Bhutto not resisted the invitation of Mujeeb for all political candidates to assemble in East Pakistan, we might have avoided the fall of Dhakka. The mistakes were made from both parts, and it was not mere depriving the east Pakistani people their right to govern. Mujeeb was in cahoots with Indians from the day one.

This is why I said that anyone who refused, stop and resist the negotiations and meeting is not really a politician. Politicians meet with their sworn enemy to find the solutions of the problems. Ik being stubborn and totally egotistic, refuse any talk and any viable solution.
I don't think this situation is anywhere critical as we seen back in 1971 except that when you condole violence and burn the properties than force must be used to prevent destruction. Any election under this poisonous environment will only destabilize the country and push it in to a series of crisis. Only solution out is through talk and negotiation.
Try to understand my friend that the majority does not support your point of view.
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Afghans that you are talking about have been living in KPK for thousands of years. Afghan is not a nationality it is caste just like Punjabi. Caling someone Punjabi does not make them anti Pakistan. Same is true with Muhajirs if they call themselves Muhajirs what is wrong about that? Never heard of them calling themselves Indian Muhajir.

This is a fact they migrated from India but they do consider themselves as Pakistani but if you keep reminding them that you are not from here and have moved from India and do not give them their rights then again I will ask you why it is wrong for them to breakaway from Pakistan?
What the hell you are talking about. The nationals of Afghanistan are called themselves what? The citizens of Pakistan called themselves Pakistanis, not sandhi , Punjabi or Arabs.
I am talking about millions of Afghanis who are still in Pakistan living as refugees.
 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Who told you that ? He was given a date in late August to have the general election of all assemblies together. He refused to accept it and kept insisting that it must be done in May and it will only be Punjab assembly election. What's wrong with August election?

They can't take their responsivity out when they quit the negotiation and abandoned the talk on the direction of IK.

There is a issue with having election on different dates. And this goes back to the flaw within the system. To address the concerns of the political parties and came up with the idea of interim government which are responsible to hold the fair elections. If the one province or other will have the elections earlier, then the party which win that election will control the electoral proceeding and the other parties will not accept the result of those elections. This is why it is important that elections should be done on a same day .
what If Ik lose the eelction ? Would he accept his defeat ? Lets consider if the interim Governemnt rig the election . We will have an even bigger issue on our hand


Who was inciting people ? PTI lower leadership and local leaders could be heard passing on the instructions to their goons to burn down the buildings .

Wish I had enough time to post the videos of political leaders of PDM stating if they see things are not right elections can be postponed until further notice and you can clearly see their intentions of holding elections in August. Elections do not suit them this is the fact whether one accept it or not.

You cannot convince me and I won't be able to convince you either so I will call it a day. Have a good one👍
 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What the hell you are talking about. The nationals of Afghanistan are called themselves what? The citizens of Pakistan called themselves Pakistanis, not sandhi , Punjabi or Arabs.
I am talking about millions of Afghanis who are still in Pakistan living as refugees.
The nationals of Afghanistan are called Afghanis not just Afghans. Afghan is a caste just like Punjabis. Same like Punjabis living in both India and Pakistan, Afghans are living on both sides of the border. Afghans living in Pakistan are Pakistanis unless someone thinks them otherwise. This is as simple as that nothing so complicated
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The nationals of Afghanistan are called Afghanis not just Afghans. Afghan is a caste just like Punjabis. Same like Punjabis living in both India and Pakistan, Afghans are living on both sides of the border. Afghans living in Pakistan are Pakistanis unless someone thinks them otherwise. This is as simple as that nothing so complicated
Ok,let's call them Afghanis. Those Afghanis who were involved with burning vehicles and damaging properties and living in Pakistan under refugee status should be captured and kicked out. And it is simple as this.
 

jigrot

Minister (2k+ posts)
Wow says who ? The majority always involve with misguided and transgressors.
The claim that the majority always involve with misguided and transgressors is unsubstantiated. Many individuals within the majority uphold ethical values and contribute positively to society. Overgeneralizing ignores the diverse and complex nature of human behavior.
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The claim that the majority always involve with misguided and transgressors is unsubstantiated. Many individuals within the majority uphold ethical values and contribute positively to society. Overgeneralizing ignores the diverse and complex nature of human behavior.
It is historically proven that majority of the people always tends to be attracted towards the evil and follow transgressors .if you are a student of Quran, you would be aware that Allah Subhan Tallulah stated the nature of the human being and the behaviour of majority as" Aksur Ul Latashoroon.
In many Ayats, this statement is reiterated over and over again.
If you look at the history of human beings and their collective wisdom, you would easily understand that these words of Allah have been proven true in all civilizations.
I don't deny their rights to decision as free souls, however, to say that they are always right is totally false .
 

abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
What if the Judiciary hiding the culprit in Guest house.
The 250 million can't be burning their own properties and assets.
What if few Indian brainwash creating alliances and pouring petrol on streets.
We stand with Pakistan . Other might stand with their leaders.
what if u r hindu rat so dont fk with us pakistani musalmans
 

jigrot

Minister (2k+ posts)
It is historically proven that majority of the people always tends to be attracted towards the evil and follow transgressors .if you are a student of Quran, you would be aware that Allah Subhan Tallulah stated the nature of the human being and the behaviour of majority as" Aksur Ul Latashoroon.
In many Ayats, this statement is reiterated over and over again.
If you look at the history of human beings and their collective wisdom, you would easily understand that these words of Allah have been proven true in all civilizations.
I don't deny their rights to decision as free souls, however, to say that they are always right is totally false .
I think we are not talking about religion. The religious perspective is different. I am talking about democracy, in democracy majority rule is followed, right or wrong, moral or immoral doesn't matter.
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I think we are not talking about religion. The religious perspective is different. I am talking about democracy, in democracy majority rule is followed, right or wrong, moral or immoral doesn't matter.
Our faith is not religion. It is a way of life. As I said, I accept democracy fundamentals which give right to the people to decide, however, the majority cannot always be right. Check to see what Indian has chosen as a result of their democracy. This filthy Modi, good for nothing PM, a Known terrorist.
 

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