How Do You Pray Without Hadees?

[atensari]

Let me rephrase it, the word Salat in the Quran does not mean "Namaz"

اچھا جی۔

 

[Fact Checker]

Please do NOT feed the trolls and agents of chaos.

For the Pakistani Muslims, who the Devil's Disciples are trying to mislead, be aware that:
(a) The sophistry to "judge" Islam on the parameters of Western rationalism and philosophy is not new, and has been effectively rebutted and put to rest in the seminal works of Hujjat-ul-Islam Imam al-Gazali (may Allah swt be pleased with him) (e.g., Ihya Ulum al-Din, Tahafut al-Falasifa, al-Munqidh min al-ḍalal, etc.) and other Muslim sages, and even by the West's own St Aquinas (Summa Theologica). Please read the original works first. The world was not born on the 18th of June 1815.
(b) Understand what your "Shahadah" - your Covenant with Allah swt - entails. In short, obedience of Allah and of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and modelling one's Faith and life consistent with the Noble Quran and the "Hikmah" revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) are the essential pre-requisites. Indeed, Allah swt knows the best.
(c) For anyone denying "Oral Tradition" in Islam must first reflect, why Oral Torah and Talmud still remain the bedrock of Halakha ("Jewish Law") today, and why Oral Tradition still remains the "cornerstone" of the Templar Order today??
(d) For anyone denying the works of Hadith altogether, consolidated by Muslim sages on the principles of Ilm al-Rijal, must first reflect how does this entitle the orientalists and non-believers to (re)interpret and (re)imagine Islam? Oh yes, this does entitle Nebraska University (John Jack Schroder, Thomas Gouttierre, et al.) to redefine Islam and design textbooks for the "Holy Warriors" in Afghanistan in 1980s and Georgetown University (Tamara Sonn, et al.) to design new "curriculum" for promoting Sufism in Pakistan in 2000s because the "deep pockets" had taken care of the Generals.
(e) Not all books of Hadith were written by the Persians, and even when there were, there is no denying where the "seat of knowledge and learning" was and that the first authentic and authoritative works on Arabic language and grammar were indeed also produced by the Persians. Any attempts to advance Col. T E Lawrence's and Sam Huntington's theses to stoke Arab vs non-Arab schisms again will In Sha Allah fail.

The GOP must re-assess; society and media have been penetrated badly for decades.

TWIMC -- I can assert with reasonable confidence based on careful content analysis of the two primary IDs <Citizen X> and <Wake up Pak> on this Forum that <Citizen X> seems a R&AW handle run by an Indian-origin person and <Wake up Pak> seems a MI6/CIA/Mossad handle run by a Pakistan-origin person (α = 0.01). There's no dearth of Pakistani and Indian origin folks hired by external agencies and masquerading as PTI and Pakistan sympathizers. Thanks, but no thanks. One of the gifts of our social media is that people with deep motivations can use Imran Khan as their DP and then go unhinged. Good Luck with your sophistry and PsyOps!!

 

[Wake up Pak]

Wake up Pak> seems a MI6/CIA/Mossad handle run by a Pakistan-origin person (α = 0.01).

Citizen X

I'm an MI6/CIA/Mossad agent.

 

[Mughal1]

Please do NOT feed the trolls and agents of chaos.

For the Pakistani Muslims, who the Devil's Disciples are trying to mislead, be aware that:
(a) The sophistry to "judge" Islam on the parameters of Western rationalism and philosophy is not new, and has been effectively rebutted and put to rest in the seminal works of Hujjat-ul-Islam Imam al-Gazali (may Allah swt be pleased with him) (e.g., Ihya Ulum al-Din, Tahafut al-Falasifa, al-Munqidh min al-ḍalal, etc.) and other Muslim sages, and even by the West's own St Aquinas (Summa Theologica). Please read the original works first. The world was not born on the 18th of June 1815.
(b) Understand what your "Shahadah" - your Covenant with Allah swt - entails. In short, obedience of Allah and of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and modelling one's Faith and life consistent with the Noble Quran and the "Hikmah" revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) are the essential pre-requisites. Indeed, Allah swt knows the best.
(c) For anyone denying "Oral Tradition" in Islam must first reflect, why Oral Torah and Talmud still remain the bedrock of Halakha ("Jewish Law") today, and why Oral Tradition still remains the "cornerstone" of the Templar Order today??
(d) For anyone denying the works of Hadith altogether, consolidated by Muslim sages on the principles of Ilm al-Rijal, must first reflect how does this entitle the orientalists and non-believers to (re)interpret and (re)imagine Islam? Oh yes, this does entitle Nebraska University (John Jack Schroder, Thomas Gouttierre, et al.) to redefine Islam and design textbooks for the "Holy Warriors" in Afghanistan in 1980s and Georgetown University (Tamara Sonn, et al.) to design new "curriculum" for promoting Sufism in Pakistan in 2000s because the "deep pockets" had taken care of the Generals.
(e) Not all books of Hadith were written by the Persians, and even when there were, there is no denying where the "seat of knowledge and learning" was and that the first authentic and authoritative works on Arabic language and grammar were indeed also produced by the Persians. Any attempts to advance Col. T E Lawrence's and Sam Huntington's theses to stoke Arab vs non-Arab schisms again will In Sha Allah fail.

The GOP must re-assess; society and media have been penetrated badly for decades.

TWIMC -- I can assert with reasonable confidence based on careful content analysis of the two primary IDs <Citizen X> and <Wake up Pak> on this Forum that <Citizen X> seems a R&AW handle run by an Indian-origin person and <Wake up Pak> seems a MI6/CIA/Mossad handle run by a Pakistan-origin person (α = 0.01). There's no dearth of Pakistani and Indian origin folks hired by external agencies and masquerading as PTI and Pakistan sympathizers. Thanks, but no thanks. One of the gifts of our social media is that people with deep motivations can use Imran Khan as their DP and then go unhinged. Good Luck with your sophistry and PsyOps!!

Dear fact checker, do you know what actual facts are in light of which the actual quranic text must be understood? If you do, please let me know them as well.

Stop quoting nonsense of mullahs, scientists, philosophers, politicians etc etc because they are the ones who have messed up humanity as a whole. Instead kindly state actual facts and let us check them together.

regards and all the best.

 

[Wake up Pak]

Please do NOT feed the trolls and agents of chaos.

For the Pakistani Muslims, who the Devil's Disciples are trying to mislead, be aware that:
(a) The sophistry to "judge" Islam on the parameters of Western rationalism and philosophy is not new, and has been effectively rebutted and put to rest in the seminal works of Hujjat-ul-Islam Imam al-Gazali (may Allah swt be pleased with him) (e.g., Ihya Ulum al-Din, Tahafut al-Falasifa, al-Munqidh min al-ḍalal, etc.) and other Muslim sages, and even by the West's own St Aquinas (Summa Theologica). Please read the original works first. The world was not born on the 18th of June 1815.
(b) Understand what your "Shahadah" - your Covenant with Allah swt - entails. In short, obedience of Allah and of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and modelling one's Faith and life consistent with the Noble Quran and the "Hikmah" revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) are the essential pre-requisites. Indeed, Allah swt knows the best.
(c) For anyone denying "Oral Tradition" in Islam must first reflect, why Oral Torah and Talmud still remain the bedrock of Halakha ("Jewish Law") today, and why Oral Tradition still remains the "cornerstone" of the Templar Order today??
(d) For anyone denying the works of Hadith altogether, consolidated by Muslim sages on the principles of Ilm al-Rijal, must first reflect how does this entitle the orientalists and non-believers to (re)interpret and (re)imagine Islam? Oh yes, this does entitle Nebraska University (John Jack Schroder, Thomas Gouttierre, et al.) to redefine Islam and design textbooks for the "Holy Warriors" in Afghanistan in 1980s and Georgetown University (Tamara Sonn, et al.) to design new "curriculum" for promoting Sufism in Pakistan in 2000s because the "deep pockets" had taken care of the Generals.
(e) Not all books of Hadith were written by the Persians, and even when there were, there is no denying where the "seat of knowledge and learning" was and that the first authentic and authoritative works on Arabic language and grammar were indeed also produced by the Persians. Any attempts to advance Col. T E Lawrence's and Sam Huntington's theses to stoke Arab vs non-Arab schisms again will In Sha Allah fail.

The GOP must re-assess; society and media have been penetrated badly for decades.

TWIMC -- I can assert with reasonable confidence based on careful content analysis of the two primary IDs <Citizen X> and <Wake up Pak> on this Forum that <Citizen X> seems a R&AW handle run by an Indian-origin person and <Wake up Pak> seems a MI6/CIA/Mossad handle run by a Pakistan-origin person (α = 0.01). There's no dearth of Pakistani and Indian origin folks hired by external agencies and masquerading as PTI and Pakistan sympathizers. Thanks, but no thanks. One of the gifts of our social media is that people with deep motivations can use Imran Khan as their DP and then go unhinged. Good Luck with your sophistry and PsyOps!!

Fact Checker you need to check the facts before posting all this nonsense.

 

[Citizen X]

<Citizen X> seems a R&AW handle run by an Indian-origin person and

 

[Mughal1]

 

[Mughal1]

 

[Mughal1]

 

[Mughal1]