Idea of Pakistan and the patience of IK and PTI

[KhanWarrior]

We were the ones who gave huge respect and honor to Pakistani army and ISI. We applauded any small theatrics they did and ignored their brutal campaigns in balochistan and KPK. We always gave them the benefit of doubt that they are good guys and supported them even when our baloch and tribal friends ( in university hostle we had regular debates with them ) told us that our view of reality is not true and army is a malign force in their regions.

IK and PTI till date has shown great patience, and not one leader spoke against the army even after such terror they were inflicted by the ISI and Army. if Asim Munir would not have done a provocation on 9th may by a humiliating arrest of IK, people would not have given him a bloody Nose. It was pre-planned provocation by ISI and MI to disintegrate PTI.

The only option to save Pakistan is that Asim munir , Nadeem and other generals surrender and resign . A new people should take command of forces and also free and fair elections to be held. Otherwise I see idea of Pakistan is dead, and Fait Accompli once again like 1971. Personally i would be happy because I want KPK to join afghanistan because i see the war with india is coming and we need strategic relations for defense before it begins ........

 

[Kam]

We were the ones who gave huge respect and honor to Pakistani army and ISI. We applauded any small theatrics they did and ignored their brutal campaigns in balochistan and KPK. We always gave them the benefit of doubt that they are good guys and supported them even when our baloch and tribal friends ( in university hostle we had regular debates with them ) told us that our view of reality is not true and army is a malign force in their regions.

IK and PTI till date has shown great patience, and not one leader spoke against the army even after such terror they were inflicted by the ISI and Army. if Asim Munir would not have done a provocation on 9th may by a humiliating arrest of IK, people would not have given him a bloody Nose. It was pre-planned provocation by ISI and MI to disintegrate PTI.

The only option to save Pakistan is that Asim munir , Nadeem and other generals surrender and resign . A new people should take command of forces and also free and fair elections to be held. Otherwise I see idea of Pakistan is dead, and Fait Accompli once again like 1971. Personally i would be happy because I want KPK to join afghanistan because i see the war with india is coming and we need strategic relations for defense before it begins ........

Army Chief or ISI Chief is not Pakistan.
We the people of land are the Pakistanis. The people of land as per our political map are the Pakistanis.
Have faith in yourself and do not spread anything against this country and our political map. We and our generations will defend it with their lives.

 

[KhanWarrior]

Army Chief or ISI Chief is not Pakistan.
We the people of land are the Pakistanis. The people of land as per our political map are the Pakistanis.
Have faith in yourself and do not spread anything against this country and our political map. We and our generations will defend it with their lives.

Yup clock is ticking ...... Do save your land and idea if you can, at least i believe that we have failed to establish rule of law and justice hence we shall soon disintegrate ..... Maybe it will take 20 years to reach that stage, but preparation in advance is necessary ......

I believe the window of redemption has been closed .... ALLAH knows the best ....

 

[Kam]

Yup clock is ticking ...... Do save your land and idea if you can, at least i believe that we have failed to establish rule of law and justice hence we shall soon disintegrate ..... Maybe it will take 20 years to reach that stage, but preparation in advance is necessary ......

I believe the window of redemption has been closed .... ALLAH knows the best ....

I think all this yazidiyat is being done under some agenda to break Pakistan. We will not fall to this ploy.
Yes all of us are angry but with the persons responsible not Pakistan.
People of Iran stood against Shah not Iran. I pray that all of those responsible will be treated as Khumaini treated them.

 

[KhanWarrior]

I think all this yazidiyat is being done under some agenda to break Pakistan. We will not fall to this ploy.

No agenda or ploy just our inability to establish justice and rule of law ... Hence Nature takes its own course .....

I think you should have till now learned the lesson that generals of Pakistani army and their army, ISI , Police are different beast ... They will burn everything to save themselves just like 1971 ....

 

[Kam]

No agenda or ploy just our inability to establish justice and rule of law ... Hence Nature takes its own course .....

I think you should have till now learned the lesson that generals of Pakistani army and their army, ISI , Police are different beast ... They will burn everything to save themselves ....

Believe me, we have done half of our job. We have taught lesson to the yazids of the time. Now we are just one and two steps behind establishing law and order in the country. Yazids will not be able to conspire again or will think thousands of times to do so. Every good morning has dark night behind it. Believe in good and bright morning.

 

[KhanWarrior]

Believe me, we have done half of our job. We have taught lesson to the yazids of the time. Now we are just one and two steps behind establishing law and order in the country. Yazids will not be able to conspire again or will think thousands of times to do so. Every good morning has dark night behind it. Believe in good and bright morning.

I have personally lost the faith in Pakistan, now my goal is simply telling people of KPK to ally with Afghanistan early and save their skin before India tells bajwa and his army how much petrol is left in its tanks .....

 

[Kam]

I have personally lost the faith in Pakistan, now my goal is simply telling people of KPK to ally with Afghanistan early and save their skin before India tells bajwa and his army how much petrol is left in its tanks .....

By the way "diesel for tanks" statement as per me falls under official secret act.

 

[KhanWarrior]

By the way "diesel for tanks" statement as per me falls under official secret act.

What can I say the, maybe it does. The main thing it shows is the mentality of an army chief and then what decisions he would be taking. it's game over ....

 

[Kam]

What can I say the, maybe it does the main thing it shows is the mentality of an army chief and then what decisions he would be taking. it's game over ....

You know, I was an army enthusiast until April 2022. Even after that I continue to believe that I am under a nightmare and it cannot be true. But in any case, I have to accept the realities.

I studied 1971 war as per my childish knowledge and I was shocked,

1. We never tried to protect people who claimed to be Pakistanis and supporting Pakistan all the time until the fall and afterwards.

2. We never tried to create fortifications in case of defeat.

3. We never knew our strongholds and positions or districts which we can defend for a year or more.

4. If I was something and I have to take decision of defeat, I would have always tried to create a situation for maintaining east Pakistan by few districts.

 

[KhanWarrior]

You know, I was an army enthusiast until April 2022. Even after that I continue to believe that I am under a nightmare and it cannot be true. But in any case, I have to accept the realities.

I studied 1971 war as per my childish knowledge and I was shocked,

1. We never tried to protect people who claimed to be Pakistanis and supporting Pakistan all the time until the fall and afterwards.

2. We never tried to create fortifications in case of defeat.

3. We never knew our strongholds and positions or districts which we can defend for a year or more.

4. If I was something and I have to take decision of defeat, I would have always tried to create a situation for maintaining east Pakistan by few districts.

I understand what you mean but without a strong base behind, a few front fortifications are just resource sink. In East Pakistan I don't know the real history and military understanding, but everybody knows without public support east Pakistan was already lost .....

 

[Kam]

I understand what you mean but without a strong base behind, a few front fortifications are just resource sink. In East Pakistan I don't know the real history and military understanding, but everybody knows without public support east Pakistan was already lost .....

Strong base was always in Chittacong near Myanmir border. We could have resisted there for a long period of time as per the terrain and minimum logistics access. It was a land of around 120 x 300 kilometer with mountain and ideal place for fortifications and natural defences.
Considering current Ghaza situation and war tactics, we always had our chance there.

But surrendering in 14 days was shameful and with almost 40 to 50k soldiers available.

 

[Termitenator]

Meeting room of Zaman Park that was renovated courtsey of Malik Riaz today has more empty chairs for core comittee meetings then number of personnel available in PTI to carry out party duties. Not sure what you dumb fks are smoking these days patiently

KhanWarrior Kam

 

[Masud Rajaa]

fcuk the rogue army

 

[KhanWarrior]

Meeting room of Zaman Park that was renovated courtsey of Malik Riaz today has more empty chairs for core comittee meetings then number of personnel available in PTI to carry out party duties. Not sure what you dumb fks are smoking these days patiently

I do not understand what kind of people are in the army, who work for a single chief rather then the rule of law and justice ..... That's one reason i think Pakistan will disintegrate again because somehow we have same brain less dumb donkey Ass people in the army ...