Ishara tu tha:Haroon Rasheed

jaanmark

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Always start with Islam the come to talking shites and at the end always reppit Islam again so no one can say any thing about his writing , We are all agreed with the education and skills of Islam BUT not Haroon Rasheed
 

jason

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Ishara wishara koi nahin is shudnay ku gujar khan kay peer kay ilawa kuch nazar nahin aata.

Muzakrat draaz nahin kiay jaa rahay Muslim league Judicial Commission kay TOR pr delaying tactics kr rahi hay.Aik trf isnay apnay wazeeroon ku propganaday kay dhanday pr laga dia hay doosri trf

Altaf Hussain ko apealon pr laga dia hay kay dhrna khtm kru kay sailaab aagaya hay jesay dhrnay waalon nay sailaab laya tha aur imdaadi karwain inhon nay hi krna hain imdadi karwaian cranon boats aur campon ki hain ju zaahri baat hay hakoomat nay krna haain.

khud Nawaz sharif nay dhrna uthanay ki baataain kr raha hay.

teesri trf apnay media cell ko activate kr dia hay ML nay.

Yeh sb harktain us judicial commission pr TOR na maannay kay liay ho raha hay

Lagta Hay HR ka dimagh operation main nikal lia gaya hay ya phir apni ranjishain nikaal raha hay.
 

nas khan

MPA (400+ posts)
Haroon Rasheed always try to damage IK n PTI on crucial time. He is a snake. His views are always based on personal likes n dislikes and not on facts. 4 weeks ago he said Aaj se Imran Khan ka zawal shoru hogia hey. But IK is more stronger and popular after 4 weeks now. If IK go to Gujar khan aur Prof Rafiq Akhtar se Mafi mang le ticket na deney ki tu everything will be fine.
 

M.Tariq

MPA (400+ posts)
Haroon Rasheed has Two Problems 1 He tried to insult Dr Tahir Ul qadri all the time because of prof rafiq akhter,he never ever acknowledge the voice of TUQ,2 with mran he always want that Imran should and must discuss all party matters with him and act accordingly on his advice.He is the only one in Main streen media of pakistan who used to praise Gen kiyan ,wo to ge america ki ankhoo me ankhein dal ker bat karta he ,BAAD me likh doon ga,sub baqwas he GEN Kiyani iftikhar Ch aur election commission ke membran ne election ko fix kiya aur ye result hasal kiya ,ye loog is ke zimadar hein ,tarekh inhe kabi maff nahi kare ge.
 
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crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
عمران خان کو کوئی اشارہ ہو یا نہ ہو اس بابے کو کہیں سے ضرور اشارہ ہے
کل کے پروگرام میں کہہ رہا تھا کہ عمران خان کے پیچھے آرمی چیف نہیں اور اس بات کا سوال ہی پیدا نہیں ہوتا کہ کوئی کور کمانڈر یا جنرل آرمی چیف کی رضامندی کےبغیر کوئی قدم اٹھایے، اور ، اور آج یہ اشارے کی بات کر رہا ہے، خود اپنے ہی بیان میں تضاد
کل تک یہ بابا کیانی کے گن گا رہا تھا اور آج راحیل شریف کے

بس گجر خان کی ٹکٹیں اسکو اور اسکے مولوی پیر کو نہیں ملی ورنہ پھر سب کچھ ٹیھک تھا

Au Bhai, you didn't get his drift. He is not saying that "Ishara" is from the Army. On the contrary he is saying that Army has no intention and Raheel has good relations with the PM. What he is saying is that there is a conspiracy to break the country, i.e. IK is part of the people who are trying to break the country, but Army understands it and would protect the country.

He is not accusing IK to have help from Army, he is accusing him of Treason openly. He is gone out of his "freaking mind".
 

210akash

Senator (1k+ posts)
Baba g ab bhe is march ko ek siasai march samj rahe ha , ab ya march purely pakistani awam ke mafadat ka march ban chuka ha. In 27 dino ma PTI aur Imran khan ne wo kush hisil kiya ha jo PPP ne bhe shayed awam se hasil na kiya ho.
 

sajhassan

MPA (400+ posts)
Well, Baba Gee ko yeh baat hazam nahi ho rahi kay "ladlay shagird nay inhain bypass ker kay direct unkey Guru say hidayat kyun lena shuru ker den hain"

Oh baba Gee, bachay jab baray ho jatay hain to independent bhi ho jatay hain, let them live their life.
 

Rizwan2009

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
دو گروہ بن چکے ہيں ايک وہ جو اس نظام کو بچانا چاہتا ہے اوراس نظام مىں اپنى کرپشن بچانا اور چھپانا چاہتا ہے جبکہ دوسرا وہ جو اس نظام کو گرا کر پاک و صاف نظام لانا چاہتا ہے يہ بات تو طے ہوچکى کرپٹ مافيا ايک طرف ہے اور دوسرى طرف پاکستان کے نوجوان
ليکن مىں يہ بات اچھى طرح جانتا ہوں کہ جب تک پاکستان ميں تعلىمى انقلاب بپا نہيں کرديا جاتا اس وقت تک کسى قسم کا سياسى انقلاب آنے کى اميد محض حماقت ہے
 

PakGem

Minister (2k+ posts)
یہ بار بار شاہ محمود کی بات کرتا ہے، نیتوں کے حال الله جانتا ہے لیکن شاہ محمود تین بار بڑی قربانی دہ چکا ہے. پہلے اس نے اپنی سیٹ چوڑی اور پی ٹی آئ میں آیا، پھر ضمنی الیکشن میں سیٹ خالی چوڑی اور اب عمران کے کہنے پر استعفے دیا اور لونگ مارچ اور سخت گرمیوں میں جلسے کیے- اب ہو سکتا ہے وہ خدار ہو، لیکن یہ الله ہی جان سکتا ہے اور اتنی قربانیوں کے بعد ہمارا کام نہیں اس پر شک کرنا- ایسے تو کسی انسان کے بارے میں کہ دو وہ غدار ہے ، پھر؟
 
ح

حکایت جنوں

Guest
Atleast Baba jee nay zarf dikhaya aur Hashmi sahib say maaz'rat ker lee. But Baba jee if you visit this forum there are some important points:

- Sawal he paida nahi hota keh COAS kee marzi kay baghair koi ISI ya Military officer IK/Qadri kee support karay. It is simply impossible, the chain of command is too strong, the culture is too disciplined (within the force) and COAS has been given absolute power by law - anyone who dares to pull a coup without the knowledge of COAS can easily find himself facing a court martial and probably gallows. Yeh app aur hamaray PM sahib dil ko khush rakhanay ko sochtay hain - there is support from military quarters to both Qadri and IK and Raheel Shariff is briefed about this.

- Serious newspapers called a spade a spade and put the blame squarely on Military not on some isolated ISI officers.

- In case of Qadri it is likely that he is being sponsored from outside forces, he was projected and marketed as the new trend-setter in South Asia (India went out of its way to welcome shiekh sahib in India and Sheikh sahib returned the favor by claiming that Model town incident was far severe then Gujrat massacre, sheikh sahib even defended Modi something sane Indians have hesitated to do). We have been hearing about the peaceful Sufi Islam for some time now in western academia and sheikh sahib's famous fatwa against terrorism is not worth the paper its written on. Sheikh sahib has done a degree in plagiarism yet strangely it was promoted heavily in western media.

The real issue is that IK has supported Sheikh sahib from the start, he went out of his way to support the demands last time (zaradri era) and this time nothing is left to imagination. He started his rally along with Qadri sahib, he took the same route, same place of dharna, same timing of attacking parliament and same day retreat to D-chowk. Agar ab aap dil ko khush kernay ko sochain to aur baat hai laikin factually there is no doubt that IK has been with Qadri 100% from the start. If Qadri strings are being pulled from some foreign land then IK strings are also being pulled by the same. Why dance around the issue and not address it?

- Lastly Military has laways taken thing country for granted and now the whole country has been dragged to hell because of one retired Musharraf - who resigned midway through his reign and became a Politican. he has a political party today which he is heading yet military is ready to completely destroy this country in order to save him. After knowing full well that this criminal abrogated the constitution military failed to convince him to stay abroad, he comes back and now khakis want to change the very law of the land just to save him. I wonder why this is never discussed in your columns.

(PS: Deputy secretary of PTI just alleged that Kayani has been working with India and MI6, quite amusingly you did not even touch the subject - Apkay kay sanam khanay kay devtaoun mein thun gai)
Completely agree with the highlighted part
 
ح

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Guest
I think that Army doesn't want IK to prolong the dharna. This is what I understood from HR's column who is an important representative of military in journalism
 
ح

حکایت جنوں

Guest
Sedqal g can you tell me the reason why the thread about the critique of Akbar S babar on IK is deleted. We also shared our views on that thread. Adeel and Waseem are avoiding to tell me the reason despite many requests.
 

rtabasum2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I think that Army doesn't want IK to prolong the dharna. This is what I understood from HR's column who is an important representative of military in journalism

GHQ does not wants that but ISI is different story, compare GHQ sponsored journalist Talat Hussain and Haroon Rashid with ISI sponsored DR Shahid Masood, Moeen Peerzada, Mubashar Luqman and Arshad of Dunya n u will see the split is there btw the Army. Pmln is waiting for end of September so Raheel can hv his men in as corp commanders but Qadri n IK will up the game before that
 
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GHQ does not wants that but ISI is different story, compare GHQ sponsored journalist Talat Hussain and Haroon Rashid with ISI sponsored DR Shahid Masood, Moeen Peerzada, Mubashar Luqman and Arshad of Dunya n u will see the split is there btw the Army. Pmln is waiting for end of September so Raheel can hv his men in as corp commanders but Qadri n IK will up the game before that
Do you think that without GHQ's support ISI can overthrow the government? How will IK be able to do independent decisions in future if he is seeking such an overt support from ISI
 

rtabasum2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Do you think that without GHQ's support ISI can overthrow the government? How will IK be able to do independent decisions in future if he is seeking such an overt support from ISI

PTI hopes for a change in this electoral system they hv tried taking the usual way go through the tribunals, courts, parliament and even mass agitation.
end of the day it was all about numbers if a million people appear in Islamabad for two days the Govt would accept everything but seems we people r not ready for that as yet. So wt else is left get urself as popular by delivering in KPK where the Govt n Army does not leave u alone, without taking KPK n PTI u launch an operation n give KPK govt a burden of more than 1 million IDPs, U don't pay them royalty of electricity, u hv turn a blind eye on DI khan jail break where the single road to Waziristan is manned by Army after every 10 miles ur desire to hold biometric local council election is put in dustbin by election commission n supreme court by simply saying that we cannot do it caz i u do it here it will be a precedent for future elections. Erdogan faced the same problems with Army but with his performance he was able to curb there powers gradually. Any Govt that performs whether it is PMLn can make the Army behave, if PMLn had done some revolutionary changes in the way they go abt running the Govt everybody wud hv taken a seat back there won't be a street agitation possible but caz of their incompetencies n corruption it has given n excuse for protesters n Army hawks to move against them
 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
it is said that baba haroon aka "chuskee maar" drinks alcohol while writing columns.if it is true than may Allahs all creatures curse be upon baba chuskee
 

Abdul jabbar

Minister (2k+ posts)
سارے كالم میں ایك سچی بات یہ تھی كہ،
سنجیدہ اخبار نویسوں نے لگی لپٹی نا ركھی ۔ بحثیت مجموعی اگرچہ میڈیا كا كردار منفی رہا،،،،،،،،، گھر پھونك تماشا دیكھنے كا ۔
 

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