Javed Ahmad Ghamdi Threads - Collection

_pakistan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Must a Pilgrim Woman Accompanied by a Mahram?

kia Maharram wali condition us aurat per bhi hay jo mecca main rehti ho??
Well I guess no harm to investigate his Point...Ghamdi said there is no restirtcion of going Womens alone on Hajj but there was a restriction of women to Travel Alone...
One guy Posted some Hadith and it does say restriction on Travel not on Hajj... Any one knwo any hadith or Ayyah which restrict some one to do a Hajj without Mahrum ?
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Must a Pilgrim Woman Accompanied by a Mahram?

He has a point ... about airhosteses what u will say about it?

His point is not simply changing situations and circumstances but the very foundational rule of islam ie what is the purpose behind any guideline. Serving purpose of a commandment or guideline is important not the guideline itself just for sake of its own. The commandment is for ensuring security of women when travelling from a to b.

The point to realise here is that you can never ensure security of anything 100%. This being the case we can see clearly that security is reasonable practically possible security at any given time in any given situation under a set of circumstances.

So ghamdi sb is 100% correct on his interpretation of islamic concept of mehram. At the time when such advice was given things were different and therefore security was ensured differently if same circumstances come back same measures will become necessary just like if we no longer have new means of travel then we will be back to travelling by horses, donkeys and camels etc.
 
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Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Must a Pilgrim Woman Accompanied by a Mahram?

religion and logic don't mix. saudi baddus wont allow it either

living in ignorance and stupidity is not islam and it never was. quran is still far ahead of our time by the look of things. particularly looking at situations the ummah is going through.
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Must a Pilgrim Woman Accompanied by a Mahram?

All women are required to travel for Hajj with a Mahram. Proof of kinship must be submitted with the application form. Any woman over the age of 45 may travel without a Mahram with an organized group, provided she submits a letter of no objection from her husband, son or brother, authorizing her to travel for Hajj with the named group. This letter should be notarized.
http://www.hajinformation.com/main/p10.htm

http://www.hajinformation.com/main/t1505.htm


saudi government rules are not necessarily islamic rules. it is their country so they make rules that suit them. just as we must abide by rule of any other country we are also bound by same obligations in case of travelling to saudia.
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Must a Pilgrim Woman Accompanied by a Mahram?

Salam..
PHIR TO JUMMAH KEE NAMAZ FAJAR MAIN PURHNEE CHAHIYAY. KIUN KAY PILOT KO FLIGHT PER JANA HAY CHICAGO..
(Note:- As i have heard from their follower that actually JUMMAH PRAYER was in FAJAR.. Mullahs have changed to NOON time, thats why it has 2 rakats..So CALLED ISLAMIC RESEARCH) May ALLAH give them Hidayat.

kia aap bataa sakte hen agar musalman space station main muqeem rehen to woh wahan namaaz kaise paden? yaa agar log south pole ya north pole main rehe to mazhabi ibadaat kaise adaa karen?

jinnaat ka aqeedah bhi ise saaf saaf zahir ho jaata hai keh woh agar aasmaanu par jaa sakte the aasmanu ki khabar rakhne ke liye to zameen ki kyun nahin?

aaj ham ko quran main science ka bada dawa hai magar agar jinnaat ke baare main hamaara aqeedah drust hai to phir yeh saara ilm to ham ko bahot pehle hi se ho jaana chahiye tha.

musalmaan jinn aasmaanu par nimaaz kaise padte the? ajeeb baat hai jinnu se itne qisse kahaniyan mansoob hen aur unhune paighambar se aise sawaalaat kabhi nahin kiye.

ise saaf zahir hai logoon ne bahot si behuda baaten khudaa aur rasool ke baare main ghad li hen jin ka na quran se taluq hai no asal ahadith se.
 
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famamdani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Must a Pilgrim Woman Accompanied by a Mahram?




IN the light of Islamic back ground..............WOMEN IS A MAIN FOUNDATION STONE OF ISLAMIC CULTURE.

1..Agar aurat stay away from home more then three days then She must take a Mehrum............

2. Airhostess ke liye parda hona ya na hona is se pehle ye dekhna hoga ke is ka travel duratin is more then three days then he must consider.....

3. Agar aurat ka koi mehram rishta mojood hi na ho tou phir is ke liye kia hukam he .......Riasaat Islami.........arrange for her the way of life....

and last i have one question from all brothers here.............

ANY BODY HAVE TRY IT FIRST SENT HIS WIFE OR SISTER OR DAUGHTER TO WORK IN LONG DISTANCES AND LONG TIME...........AND FEEL HIM SELF................. SECURED IN HEART..?????........PLEASE THINK VERY INTENSIVE ABOUT .............THANKS
 
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saud491

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: "Rajam" Ahadith ki Roashni Mai ☺Aur☺ GHAMDI Ka Rajam sai INKAAR

@WatanDost
is 3117 point mein quran ki kaun si aayat ka zikar ho raha hai. kiya yeh quran mein maujood hai ya nahi . thanks

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This hadith can't be authentic. QURAN hasn't be changed or altered neither in the life of our Beloved Prophet Muhammad pbuh nor during Khilafat-e-Rashda. If anything is abrogated (MANSOOQ) is still in the QURAN.

Excerpt taken from an article:
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(i) Only a Qur’ānic verse can abrogate another verse. Consequently, both the abrogating and the abrogated verses exist in the Qur’ān. For example: 58:13 abrogates 58:12; similarly 4:11 abrogates 2:180-2. In other words, no abrogated verse of the Qur’ān is found outside the Qur’ān, and no Hadīth can abrogate a Qur’ānic directive.
(ii) The word Naskh (abrogation) is not used in the Qur’ān as a term, as is generally understood. It was centuries later that ‘Naskh’ became a term coined by the scholars of Usūl. In 2:106, where it occurs, it refers to abrogation of certain directives of previous divine scriptures by the Qur’ān. The Qur’ān itself does not comment on whether any verse of its verses has been abrogated or not.
(iii) The abrogation found in the Qur’ān concerns only laws and directives; it does not in any way relate to beliefs, morality or historical accounts. "
 

saud491

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Must a Pilgrim Woman Accompanied by a Mahram?

Salam..
PHIR TO JUMMAH KEE NAMAZ FAJAR MAIN PURHNEE CHAHIYAY. KIUN KAY PILOT KO FLIGHT PER JANA HAY CHICAGO..
(Note:- As i have heard from their follower that actually JUMMAH PRAYER was in FAJAR.. Mullahs have changed to NOON time, thats why it has 2 rakats..So CALLED ISLAMIC RESEARCH) May ALLAH give them Hidayat.

http://www.islamicity.com/qa/action...eq&number=26333&-format=detailpop.shtml&-find


Question#:
26333
Question Date:
2/20/2008

Topic :
Hajj and Umrah: Without Mahram

Question:

Asslam-o-Allekum.can i do umrah without mahram?

Answer:
Bismillahir-RaHmanir-RaHeem.

Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states:

It is permissible for a woman to go for Hajj/Umrah if she can travel in a safe company where she can feel reasonably secure and protected.

Islam is a religion that is wholly based on mercy and compassion; its teachings are aimed at protecting the weak and the vulnerable. It is therefore with the specific intent of safeguarding a womans honor, dignity, and reputation that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) forbade women from undertaking long journeys without a mahram. Since the true intent of the prohibition is safety and protection, women are allowed to travel in a safe company accompanied by elders and reputable Muslim men and women.

That is why we read in the sources that the Mothers of the Faithful such as `Aishah and Umm Salamah, themselves well known for their deep knowledge of Islam and expertise in Islamic jurisprudence, traveled without mahrims in a safe company. They traveled in a group under the protection of older men. Once `Aishah was asked whether a woman can travel without a mahram. Her answer was, Can everyone find a mahram? In other words, if she has a genuine need to travel, she may do so if she can be reasonably assured of her own safety.

Based on the above considerations, a number of jurists and scholars belonging to the Maliki and Shafi`i schools, as well as others, have considered it permissible for women to travel in a safe company.

As regards your question, the following is the fatwa issued by the prominent Muslim scholar, Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, in this regard:

The principle in Shari`ah is that a woman is not to travel by herself; rather, it is obligatory upon her to have as her companion her husband or a mahram. This ruling is founded on what was reported by Al-Bukhari and others from Ibn `Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) that Allahs Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said: A woman is not to travel except with a mahram, and a man is not to enter upon her except if she has a mahram.

And also on the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is quoted to have said: It is not permissible for a woman who believes in Allah and the Last Day to travel a distance of one day and one night without a mahram with her. Abu Sa`id narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: A woman is not to travel a distance of two days without her husband or mahram with her.

And Ibn `Umar narrated that: She is not to travel for three nights, except if she has a mahram. Apparently the differences in narrations are because of the different questioners and the questions posed. Abu Hanifah preferred the last hadith of Ibn `Umar and was of the opinion that a mahram is not needed except in travels in which prayers are shortened (also reported by Ahmad). These hadiths include all types of travel, whether or not it is necessary, like visiting, trading, seeking knowledge, or anything else.

The basis for this ruling is not an evil assumption about the woman and her manners, as some people unreasonably think, but it is to take care of her reputation and dignity. It is to protect her from the desires of those who have diseased hearts, from the assault of a rapist or a thief. And this is even more so in places that the traveler must pass through, like deadly deserts, in a time when there is no sense of security, and where the places are unpopulated.

But what is the ruling on a woman, who does not find a mahram to accompany her in a legitimate travel, whether obligatory, preferred or permitted? And there is within her reach a group of protective men, or trustworthy faithful women, and the roads are safe? The jurists have researched this topic whenever they discussed the obligation of Hajj upon women, and they kept in mind the Prophets injunction prohibiting a woman from traveling without a mahram. Their thoughtful opinions include the following:

1. Among them are those who hold on to what is apparent from the mentioned hadiths, they prohibit traveling without a mahram, even for the obligation of Hajj. And there is no exception to this rule.

2. There are those who make an exception for older women who have passed the age of being subject to temptation, as has been transmitted from Al-Qadi ibn Al-Walid Al-Yaji, from the Maliki Juristic school. It is especially for women in general if we look at the meaning as was said by Ibn Daqiq Al-`Eid.

3. Some of them make the exception that as long as the woman is with trustworthy and faithful women, then the travel is permissible. Furthermore, some conclude that it is enough for just one free trustworthy and faithful Muslim woman.

4. And some concluded that the roadway must be safe. This is the opinion that was chosen by Sheikh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah. He mentioned that Ibn Muflih in Al-Faru` said: Every woman can perform Hajj without a mahram as long as she will be safe. And he said: This is directed towards every travel in obedience... Al-Karabisi transmitted this from Ash-Shafi`i pertaining to the supererogatory Hajj. And some of his companions also said this about supererogatory Hajj and about every travel that is not obligatory, like visiting and trading.

Al-Artham transmitted from Imam Ahmad: A mahram is not a condition in the obligatory Hajj. His justification for this is his saying: Because she goes out with women, and with all those whom she is safe with. Ibn Siyrin even said: With a Muslim it is okay. Al-Awzai said: With a just people. Malik said: With a group of women. Ash-Shafi`i said: With a trustworthy faithful Muslim woman. And his companions said: By herself if there is safety.

Al-Hafidh Ibn Hajar said: What is well-known with the Shafi`is is that it is conditional that there be a husband, mahram, or trustworthy faithful women. And in another saying: It is enough for just one trustworthy faithful woman. In a saying transmitted by Al-Karabisi, authenticated in Al-Muhadhab, is that she can travel by herself if the roads are safe. If this is what was said about traveling for Hajj and `Umrah, then this ruling should be uniform concerning all types of travel, as some scholars have agreed.

The purpose here is to safeguard the woman and protect her, which is fulfilled by knowing that the roadway is safe and that trustworthy faithful men and women are present.

The proof of the permissibility of a woman traveling without a mahram is incumbent upon there being security and the presence of trustworthy faithful people. What was reported by Al-Bukhari is that during the final Hajj of `Umar ibn Al-Khattab (may Allah be pleased with him), he gave permission to the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) to perform Hajj. So he sent with them `Uthman ibn `Affan and `Abdur-Rahman. This act is considered to be a consensus, for all of them, `Umar, `Uthman, `Abdur-Rahman Ibn `Awf and the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) agreed to it, without any objection.

Second is what was reported by Al-Bukhari and Muslim from the hadith of `Ada Ibn Hatim that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) told him about the future of Islam and how its light will be spread throughout the earth. Among what he mentioned is: The day is near when a young woman will travel from Al-Hira (a city in Iraq), going to the Sacred House with no husband accompanying her. She will fear none but Allah. This information does not only prove that this will happen, but proves its permissibility, because it was mentioned in a phrase praising the spread of Islam along with its sense of security.

Here I will state two additionally important precepts:

The first is that the basis of rulings on acts of dealings is to focus on their meanings and purposes. This is the opposite of rulings on acts of worship, whose main focus is on showing full compliance to Allahs order, before focusing on their meanings and purposes, as was firmly established by Imam Ash-Shatibi, who clarified this and verified it with proofs.

The second is that prohibited things are not permitted except if there is a dire need. And things that are prohibited so that they can be an obstruction to evil are permitted during times of need. And there is no doubt that the prohibition of a woman traveling without a mahram stems on the necessity of blocking channels to evil.

It is incumbent upon us to look at traveling in our time. It is not like how traveling was in the past. It is no more filled with the dangers of the arid deserts, or awe of being encountered with thieves, highway robbers, etc. Now traveling is by various modern means of transportation that usually gather large amounts of people at a time, like ships, airplanes, buses, or cars that travel in caravans. Thus, this provides plenty of confidence and reliability, removing feelings of fear for the woman, because she will not be by herself in any place.

Thus, in the light of the above, I see no objection to woman performing Hajj within such safe environment, which provides all the necessary security and contentment." [End Quote]

The ruling regarding a womans travel without a mahram:

This is primarily unlawful according to the hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him): A woman who believes in Allah and the Hereafter shall not travel for (a period of) a day and a night unless accompanied by a mahram of hers. (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim)

Depending on this general text, some scholars are of the opinion that a woman should not travel by herself. Other scholars stipulate that her travel is permissible in the company of a trustworthy group of men or men and women. The prohibition conveyed by the hadith is justified by fearing that the woman may be exposed to mischief or temptation if she travels alone, bearing in mind that the dangers of travel were numerous in the past. Caliph `Umar ibn al-Khattab (may Allah be pleased with him) allowed the Prophets wives (Mothers of the Believers) to travel for Hajj with a group of believers and sent with them `Uthman ibn `Affan and `Abdul-Rahman ibn `Auf.

In the hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) to `Adiy ibn Hatim we read: If you live long, you will see the woman travel from Hirah (a city in Iraq) to circumambulate the Ka`bah fearing none but Allah. (Reported by al-Bukhari)


This confirms that the cause (of the prohibition) is fear (of insecurity). If security is guaranteed and fear is no more present, a woman may travel, particularly nowadays when travel has become easy, whether by air, train or coach. In all these means of transportation, company is available and security is realized for the Muslim woman.

This is in respect of the womans travel from one town to another or from one country to another and her arrival on the same day of her travel, whereupon she finds company providing security. If the journey requires staying overnight in a hotel on the way, or the journey is intended to perform a certain task that requires residence for a certain period, the woman, in this case, is supposed primarily to travel with a mahram of hers, or reside for the required period with a Muslim family in that country to avoid the likelihood of temptation or mischief the woman may face.



Wassalam and Allah knows best.
 

saud491

MPA (400+ posts)
Hajj and Umrah: Without Mahram

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Question#:
26333
Question Date:
2/20/2008

Topic :
Hajj and Umrah: Without Mahram

Question:

Asslam-o-Allekum.can i do umrah without mahram?

Answer:
Bismillahir-RaHmanir-RaHeem.

Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states:

It is permissible for a woman to go for Hajj/Umrah if she can travel in a safe company where she can feel reasonably secure and protected.

Islam is a religion that is wholly based on mercy and compassion; its teachings are aimed at protecting the weak and the vulnerable. It is therefore with the specific intent of safeguarding a woman’s honor, dignity, and reputation that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) forbade women from undertaking long journeys without a mahram. Since the true intent of the prohibition is safety and protection, women are allowed to travel in a safe company accompanied by elders and reputable Muslim men and women.

That is why we read in the sources that the Mothers of the Faithful such as `A’ishah and Umm Salamah, themselves well known for their deep knowledge of Islam and expertise in Islamic jurisprudence, traveled without mahrims in a safe company. They traveled in a group under the protection of older men. Once `A’ishah was asked whether a woman can travel without a mahram. Her answer was, “Can everyone find a mahram?” In other words, if she has a genuine need to travel, she may do so if she can be reasonably assured of her own safety.

Based on the above considerations, a number of jurists and scholars belonging to the Maliki and Shafi`i schools, as well as others, have considered it permissible for women to travel in a safe company.

As regards your question, the following is the fatwa issued by the prominent Muslim scholar, Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, in this regard:

“The principle in Shari`ah is that a woman is not to travel by herself; rather, it is obligatory upon her to have as her companion her husband or a mahram. This ruling is founded on what was reported by Al-Bukhari and others from Ibn `Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) that Allah’s Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “A woman is not to travel except with a mahram, and a man is not to enter upon her except if she has a mahram.”

And also on the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is quoted to have said: “It is not permissible for a woman who believes in Allah and the Last Day to travel a distance of one day and one night without a mahram with her.” Abu Sa`id narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “A woman is not to travel a distance of two days without her husband or mahram with her.”

And Ibn `Umar narrated that: “She is not to travel for three nights, except if she has a mahram.” Apparently the differences in narrations are because of the different questioners and the questions posed. Abu Hanifah preferred the last hadith of Ibn `Umar and was of the opinion that a mahram is not needed except in travels in which prayers are shortened (also reported by Ahmad). These hadiths include all types of travel, whether or not it is necessary, like visiting, trading, seeking knowledge, or anything else.

The basis for this ruling is not an evil assumption about the woman and her manners, as some people unreasonably think, but it is to take care of her reputation and dignity. It is to protect her from the desires of those who have diseased hearts, from the assault of a rapist or a thief. And this is even more so in places that the traveler must pass through, like deadly deserts, in a time when there is no sense of security, and where the places are unpopulated.

But what is the ruling on a woman, who does not find a mahram to accompany her in a legitimate travel, whether obligatory, preferred or permitted? And there is within her reach a group of protective men, or trustworthy faithful women, and the roads are safe? The jurists have researched this topic whenever they discussed the obligation of Hajj upon women, and they kept in mind the Prophet’s injunction prohibiting a woman from traveling without a mahram. Their thoughtful opinions include the following:

1. Among them are those who hold on to what is apparent from the mentioned hadiths, they prohibit traveling without a mahram, even for the obligation of Hajj. And there is no exception to this rule.

2. There are those who make an exception for older women who have passed the age of being subject to temptation, as has been transmitted from Al-Qadi ibn Al-Walid Al-Yaji, from the Maliki Juristic school. It is especially for women in general if we look at the meaning as was said by Ibn Daqiq Al-`Eid.

3. Some of them make the exception that as long as the woman is with trustworthy and faithful women, then the travel is permissible. Furthermore, some conclude that it is enough for just one free trustworthy and faithful Muslim woman.

4. And some concluded that the roadway must be safe. This is the opinion that was chosen by Sheikh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah. He mentioned that Ibn Muflih in Al-Faru` said: “Every woman can perform Hajj without a mahram as long as she will be safe.” And he said: “This is directed towards every travel in obedience... Al-Karabisi transmitted this from Ash-Shafi`i pertaining to the supererogatory Hajj. And some of his companions also said this about supererogatory Hajj and about every travel that is not obligatory, like visiting and trading.”

Al-Artham transmitted from Imam Ahmad: “A mahram is not a condition in the obligatory Hajj.” His justification for this is his saying: “Because she goes out with women, and with all those whom she is safe with.” Ibn Siyrin even said: “With a Muslim it is okay.” Al-Awzai said: “With a just people.” Malik said: “With a group of women.” Ash-Shafi`i said: “With a trustworthy faithful Muslim woman.” And his companions said: “By herself if there is safety.”

Al-Hafidh Ibn Hajar said: “What is well-known with the Shafi`is is that it is conditional that there be a husband, mahram, or trustworthy faithful women.” And in another saying: “It is enough for just one trustworthy faithful woman.” In a saying transmitted by Al-Karabisi, authenticated in Al-Muhadhab, is that she can travel by herself if the roads are safe. If this is what was said about traveling for Hajj and `Umrah, then this ruling should be uniform concerning all types of travel, as some scholars have agreed.

The purpose here is to safeguard the woman and protect her, which is fulfilled by knowing that the roadway is safe and that trustworthy faithful men and women are present.

The proof of the permissibility of a woman traveling without a mahram is incumbent upon there being security and the presence of trustworthy faithful people. What was reported by Al-Bukhari is that during the final Hajj of `Umar ibn Al-Khattab (may Allah be pleased with him), he gave permission to the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) to perform Hajj. So he sent with them `Uthman ibn `Affan and `Abdur-Rahman. This act is considered to be a consensus, for all of them, `Umar, `Uthman, `Abdur-Rahman Ibn `Awf and the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) agreed to it, without any objection.

Second is what was reported by Al-Bukhari and Muslim from the hadith of `Ada Ibn Hatim that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) told him about the future of Islam and how its light will be spread throughout the earth. Among what he mentioned is: “The day is near when a young woman will travel from Al-Hira (a city in Iraq), going to the Sacred House with no husband accompanying her. She will fear none but Allah.” This information does not only prove that this will happen, but proves its permissibility, because it was mentioned in a phrase praising the spread of Islam along with its sense of security.


Here I will state two additionally important precepts:

The first is that the basis of rulings on acts of dealings is to focus on their meanings and purposes. This is the opposite of rulings on acts of worship, whose main focus is on showing full compliance to Allah’s order, before focusing on their meanings and purposes, as was firmly established by Imam Ash-Shatibi, who clarified this and verified it with proofs.

The second is that prohibited things are not permitted except if there is a dire need. And things that are prohibited so that they can be an obstruction to evil are permitted during times of need. And there is no doubt that the prohibition of a woman traveling without a mahram stems on the necessity of blocking channels to evil.

It is incumbent upon us to look at traveling in our time. It is not like how traveling was in the past. It is no more filled with the dangers of the arid deserts, or awe of being encountered with thieves, highway robbers, etc. Now traveling is by various modern means of transportation that usually gather large amounts of people at a time, like ships, airplanes, buses, or cars that travel in caravans. Thus, this provides plenty of confidence and reliability, removing feelings of fear for the woman, because she will not be by herself in any place.

Thus, in the light of the above, I see no objection to woman performing Hajj within such safe environment, which provides all the necessary security and contentment." [End Quote]

The ruling regarding a woman’s travel without a mahram:

This is primarily unlawful according to the hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him): “A woman who believes in Allah and the Hereafter shall not travel for (a period of) a day and a night unless accompanied by a mahram of hers.” (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim)

Depending on this general text, some scholars are of the opinion that a woman should not travel by herself. Other scholars stipulate that her travel is permissible in the company of a trustworthy group of men or men and women. The prohibition conveyed by the hadith is justified by fearing that the woman may be exposed to mischief or temptation if she travels alone, bearing in mind that the dangers of travel were numerous in the past. Caliph `Umar ibn al-Khattab (may Allah be pleased with him) allowed the Prophet’s wives (Mothers of the Believers) to travel for Hajj with a group of believers and sent with them `Uthman ibn `Affan and `Abdul-Rahman ibn `Auf.

In the hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) to `Adiy ibn Hatim we read: “If you live long, you will see the woman travel from Hirah (a city in Iraq) to circumambulate the Ka`bah fearing none but Allah.” (Reported by al-Bukhari)


This confirms that the cause (of the prohibition) is fear (of insecurity). If security is guaranteed and fear is no more present, a woman may travel, particularly nowadays when travel has become easy, whether by air, train or coach. In all these means of transportation, company is available and security is realized for the Muslim woman.

This is in respect of the woman’s travel from one town to another or from one country to another and her arrival on the same day of her travel, whereupon she finds company providing security. If the journey requires staying overnight in a hotel on the way, or the journey is intended to perform a certain task that requires residence for a certain period, the woman, in this case, is supposed primarily to travel with a mahram of hers, or reside for the required period with a Muslim family in that country to avoid the likelihood of temptation or mischief the woman may face.



Wassalam and Allah knows best.
 
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jahanzaibi

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Hajj and Umrah: Without Mahram

Bahi sahab yahan apnay mulk may 5 larkeen zana bil jabar ka shikkar hoo jati hain din dharay aur app mulk say bahar jannay kay fatway dhond rahay hain...
bahi sahab makkah kay under haram kay samnay hotel may aik larki kay upper rape attack hoa tha aur us nay chahatt say kood kar jan di thi.... akili wapis aai thi haram say shayyad aur kisi hotel employee nay ya koishi ki thi... kabroon may to yehi aya tha initially baki ya to sahi baat thi kay larki nichay giri thi abb kia waja thi Allah Behtar janta hay.

Pehlay Islamic state banaoo .. khalifa hoo muslims ka roob hoo phir ya masail uttaeen gay... abhi to zabardasti naqab uttaray ja rahay hain dunya may
aur hum... safe travel ki bateen kar rahay hain.
 
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zsheikh

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: "Rajam" Ahadith ki Roashni Mai ☺Aur☺ GHAMDI Ka Rajam sai INKAAR

This hadith can't be authentic. QURAN hasn't be changed or altered neither in the life of our Beloved Prophet Muhammad pbuh nor during Khilafat-e-Rashda. If anything is abrogated (MANSOOQ) is still in the QURAN.

Excerpt taken from an article:
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(i) Only a Qur’ānic verse can abrogate another verse. Consequently, both the abrogating and the abrogated verses exist in the Qur’ān. For example: 58:13 abrogates 58:12; similarly 4:11 abrogates 2:180-2. In other words, no abrogated verse of the Qur’ān is found outside the Qur’ān, and no Hadīth can abrogate a Qur’ānic directive.
(ii) The word Naskh (abrogation) is not used in the Qur’ān as a term, as is generally understood. It was centuries later that ‘Naskh’ became a term coined by the scholars of Usūl. In 2:106, where it occurs, it refers to abrogation of certain directives of previous divine scriptures by the Qur’ān. The Qur’ān itself does not comment on whether any verse of its verses has been abrogated or not.
(iii) The abrogation found in the Qur’ān concerns only laws and directives; it does not in any way relate to beliefs, morality or historical accounts. "

That was my point we should not quote any hadith which is not authentic or contradicts with quran. I asked @WatanDost but he didn't answer that why he quoted wrong hadith specially about hazrat umar RA. we should be more careful and read out first what we are posting
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Hajj and Umrah: Without Mahram

Salam
Yes, i have heard similar story told to my parents & sisters. In medina it was tried by saudi national. She was returning to her hotel alone from Haram medina. Hotel employee was involved, as soon as she was approached she yelled. After that incident she left saudia next day...
I am not blaming any nationality or some one, i am sharing the facts which i have noticed. Same thing happened with sharmila farooqui. Similarly with some PIA air hostesses in USA in their hotels, one was killed in her room... Her colleagues were involved...
May ALLAH guide us in right way... So there are rotten eggs every where even in Makkah Haram, so be cautious.
 

_pakistan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Hajj and Umrah: Without Mahram


بھائی کونسی خلافت چاہیے ؟طالبان والی ؟
Bahi sahab yahan apnay mulk may 5 larkeen zana bil jabar ka shikkar hoo jati hain din dharay aur app mulk say bahar jannay kay fatway dhond rahay hain...
bahi sahab makkah kay under haram kay samnay hotel may aik larki kay upper rape attack hoa tha aur us nay chahatt say kood kar jan di thi.... akili wapis aai thi haram say shayyad aur kisi hotel employee nay ya koishi ki thi... kabroon may to yehi aya tha initially baki ya to sahi baat thi kay larki nichay giri thi abb kia waja thi Allah Behtar janta hay.

Pehlay Islamic state banaoo .. khalifa hoo muslims ka roob hoo phir ya masail uttaeen gay... abhi to zabardasti naqab uttaray ja rahay hain dunya may
aur hum... safe travel ki bateen kar rahay hain.
 

indigo

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Hajj and Umrah: Without Mahram

Bahi sahab yahan apnay mulk may 5 larkeen zana bil jabar ka shikkar hoo jati hain din dharay aur app mulk say bahar jannay kay fatway dhond rahay hain....


bhai aap ne sahi kaha pakistan me hai zaroorat lekin agar kisi aurat ne Canada se Hajj ya Umrah krnae jaye to usae 100% assurance hasil hai...
 

jahanzaibi

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Hajj and Umrah: Without Mahram

bahi shayyad app saudi males kay baray may nahi jantay.... :)
pehlay unkay baray may jaan lain phir assurance di ga...

bhai aap ne sahi kaha pakistan me hai zaroorat lekin agar kisi aurat ne Canada se Hajj ya Umrah krnae jaye to usae 100% assurance hasil hai...
 

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