New provinces are needed in Sindh: Shahbaz Sharif - PPP. MQM, Q League, ANP all want to break Punjab

Aijazahmed

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: New provinces are needed in Sindh: Shahbaz Sharif - PPP. MQM, Q League, ANP all want to break Punjab and than Pakistan.Be

kyun bhai aap aur sobay bananay k khilaf kyun hain......................administration efficient nai ho jaay ge??????????

I am not against to create new province, I am against the politics being played behind this issue.
 

shiningstar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: New provinces are needed in Sindh: Shahbaz Sharif - PPP. MQM, Q League, ANP all want to break Punjab and than Pakistan.Be

I am not against to create new province, I am against the politics being played behind this issue.
The politics behind South Punjab province, or only against Shahbaz Sharif politics...........
 

noman3000

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: New provinces are needed in Sindh: Shahbaz Sharif - PPP. MQM, Q League, ANP all want to break Punjab and than Pakistan.Be

Sochna parega! Kya Karachi k awam ko khushi hogi ager unhe aik new province bana ker de diya jaye? I personally want Karachi to be a Country not just province. Yeah I know everyone including pro-MQMrs will disklike my post. But it's just my personal wish as a Karachiite :)
 

Ammad Hafeez

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: New provinces are needed in Sindh: Shahbaz Sharif - PPP. MQM, Q League, ANP all want to break Punjab and than Pakistan.Be

Peoples of Sindh are not demanding for the new provinces. Karachities are also want to be live with Sindh then the statement of separation is simple illogical. Peoples of South Punjab (Saraiki, Bhawalpur and others) are demanding for their own province.
Bhawalpur was accession to the Pakistan rather India, Indian government asked the Nizam/Nawab of Bhawalpur to accessioned with India, India would gave him more than Pakistan but still peoples of Bahwalpur accessioned to Pakistan and then It was declared as a province after all Ayub khan dissolved the province.

The thread is based on illogical mind-set it should be deleted. @Moderators.
 

fido82

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: New provinces are needed in Sindh: Shahbaz Sharif - PPP. MQM, Q League, ANP all want to break Punjab and than Pakistan.Be

چلو تو پھر پہلے ھزارہ کو صوبہ بنا دیں۔ جہاں تحریک بھی چل رھی ھے۔ ویسے سچ تو یہ ھے ایم کیو ایم کراچی کو صوبہ نہی جناح پور بنانا چاھتی ھے۔
پاکستان کا حل اسی میں ھے کہ ھر ڈویژن کو صوبہ بنا دیا جائے۔

Ye ialzam bangalion per bhi lagya tha uhoony sach kar dekhya . Agar ap ki yahee soch hy tu Allah ap ki zaban mubark kary.
 

hans

Banned
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More minister, more MNA, more MPA, more Imported Car more Govt Dept.... more lazy Govt Employees.
 

elipst

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: New provinces are needed in Sindh: Shahbaz Sharif - PPP. MQM, Q League, ANP all want to break Punjab and than Pakistan.Be

(clap)(clap) very good shahbaaz bahi. Very good slap on the face of MQM

Jub khud per pari to MQM ko bura lag raha hai. MQM does not want to break Punjab because the love for South Punjab to progress - but there is a design behind it.

Suppose that it does happen, then MQM will become hero as they are the ones who has initially proposed new province withing Punjab - one tactics to put more people in national assembly - thus weaken Punjab. All they are looking for is a stronghold in Punjab. south Punjab should be ware of this sinister plan of MQM - the Indian owned party behind the scene.

Why does MQM get all the blame? They havent even said anything about a Sairaiki province, all they said was any part of Pakistan that demanded a province should have a referendum in it to decide.

The Prime Minister called for a Sairaiki province. Blame him if you want to balme anyone. PML-Q called for a Sairaiki province, blame them too. Bus MQM ka naam liya aur sub pagal ho gaye
 

elipst

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: New provinces are needed in Sindh: Shahbaz Sharif - PPP. MQM, Q League, ANP all want to break Punjab and than Pakistan.Be

Why you think that there should be no more province in Sindh, as shahbaz Sharif is ready to make new provinces on Administrative basis.........................

Because there is no demand or movement for creation of any new province in Sindh. Unlike in South Punjab where there is whole scale movement for a province and another in Bhawalpur for a province there.
 

elipst

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: New provinces are needed in Sindh: Shahbaz Sharif - PPP. MQM, Q League, ANP all want to break Punjab and than Pakistan.Be

Sochna parega! Kya Karachi k awam ko khushi hogi ager unhe aik new province bana ker de diya jaye? I personally want Karachi to be a Country not just province. Yeah I know everyone including pro-MQMrs will disklike my post. But it's just my personal wish as a Karachiite :)

A country? Kya ho gya hai??
 

elipst

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: New provinces are needed in Sindh: Shahbaz Sharif - PPP. MQM, Q League, ANP all want to break Punjab and than Pakistan.Be

Seraiki province to be included in next manifesto: Gilani
By Shakeel Ahmad |
From the Newspaper
March 14, 2011




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Mr Gilani said he had become the prime minister on the strength of people`s support and added that the government would complete its five-year tenure. – File Photo


MULTAN: Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani promised on Sunday that the creation of a Seraiki province would be made part of the PPP`s manifesto for next elections.

Addressing a public gathering in Jalalpur Pirwala, he said PPP`s election manifesto would also suggest setting up of more provinces besides the one for Seraiki people.

Mr Gilani said he had become the prime minister on the strength of people`s support and added that the government would complete its five-year tenure.

Mr Gilani said when he assumed the charge as prime minister the country was facing multiple challenges such as terrorism, sectarianism, lawlessness and price hike. The government, he added, was trying its best to implement the PPP`s 36-point agenda to address these and other issues and had achieved the target on 21 points.

Talking to journalists at the Bahauddin Zakariya University, the prime minister said that his party respected the mandate of other parties and was pursuing a policy of reconciliation.

In reply to a question about targeted killings in Karachi, he said there was a need for a joint line of action to tackle the problem, adding that he had directed the law-enforcement agencies to control the situation.

He refused to comment on the controversy about the re-appointment of FIA director-general, saying the matter was sub judice.

About the issue of Raymond Davis, he said no one was more patriot than the PPP and the government would not take any step that undermined the dignity and honour of the country.

APP adds: Mr Gilani said that the government respected the judiciary and other institutions and “we will safeguard the rights of all institutions and defend the rights of parliament”.

He said: “We have neither interfered in the jurisdiction of others nor will we allow others to interfere in our affairs.”

The prime minister announced that the support price of agricultural produce would be raised to ensure due return to growers.

He said that Benazir Bhutto had always extended help to growers and it was her vision that had served as the inspiration for the government to adopt a grower-friendly policy which ensured good returns to growers in accordance with the international market.

He said it was the PPP government that had raised the support price of crops. He reiterated his government`s resolve to safeguard the rights of growers to bring about a boom in the agriculture sector.

Mr Gilani said that a countrywide poverty survey was in progress under the Benazir Income Support Programme and those identified as poor would be provided health insurance and life insurance facilities.

He said a list of the families unable to pay gas and electricity bills was also being prepared so that they could also be provided relief.

He said that popularity of a ruling party could be judged through

bye-elections, adding that Jamshed Ahmad Khan Dasti won the bye-election in Muzaffargarh, Begum Amir Yar Waran was declared successful in Bahawalpur bye-poll while other PPP candidates also won in bye-polls in Gujranwala, Vehari and Sargodha.

“How can they say that we lack people`s support,” he asked.

“I will sit on the opposition benches the day I lose the support of elected representatives,” Mr Gilani said, adding that even then he would continue to serve the people.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/03/14/seraiki-province-to-be-included-in-next-manifesto-gilani.html
 

elipst

Minister (2k+ posts)
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Restoration of province:
Nawab`s scion announces his party
By Our Correspondent |
From the Newspaper
April 15, 2011 (2 weeks ago)

BAHAWALPUR, April 14: Nawab Salahuddin Abbasi, a scion of the late Nawab Sadiq Abbasi, has announced formation of Bahawalpur Awami Party to lead the movement for restoration of the Bahawalpur province.

The announcement under the banner of Bahawalpur Declaration came at a well-attended gathering at the historic Sadiqgarh Palace at Dera Nawab Sahib, about 40 kilometres from here, on Thursday.

A large number of people, including the leaders of rival parties who are part of the movement, showed up at the event that saw intense sloganeering for the restoration of the Bahawalpur province.

Three former ministers Senator Muhammad Ali Durrani, Syed Tasneem Nawaz Gardezi and Farooq Azam Malik – were prominent among the participants.

PML-F Functional Punjab President Makhdoom Syed Ahmed Mahmood could not turn up as he is currently on a UK visit. There was no representation from the PPP and the PML-N.

In his declaration, Nawab Salahuddin regretted rough treatment with the people of south Punjab during successive regimes after the departure of the Quaid-i-Azam.

He claimed that Mr Jinnah had assured his grandfather (Nawab Sadiq Muhammad Khan Abbasi) of proper look-after of the people of the Bahawalpur State which was acceded to Pakistan on his desire.

After the death of the Quaid, he said, a military ruler sold the late Nawab`s Sutlej river to India and the whole of Pakistan was now facing water woes.

He said the provincial status demand of the local population was just, legal and constitutional. There is no need to see towards parliament or provincial assemblies for restoration of the Bahawalpur province. Rather, we will get the provincial status on the streets.

He said there would be no distinction between the settlers, refugees and locals (Seraiki-speaking people) and all of them should stand behind him.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/04/15/restoration-of-province-nawabs-scion-announces-his-party.html
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: New provinces are needed in Sindh: Shahbaz Sharif - PPP. MQM, Q League, ANP all want to break Punjab and than Pakistan.Be

More provinces, more administration, more expenditure, more MPAs, Parliamentary Secretaries, Provincial
Assemblies, Provincial Ministers. In the kitty, money is not enough to pay the circular debt to PSO, resultantly
whole of Pakistan is standstill due to electricity problem and there came the brilliant idea to
make more provinces. Perhaps in this way the same group of people who have usurped the jobs of
other provinces by getting their fake domiciles will have more opportunities. I see fishy business
near clifton Karachi.
 

shiningstar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: New provinces are needed in Sindh: Shahbaz Sharif - PPP. MQM, Q League, ANP all want to break Punjab and than Pakistan.Be

Because there is no demand or movement for creation of any new province in Sindh. Unlike in South Punjab where there is whole scale movement for a province and another in Bhawalpur for a province there.
Bhai, we have to make new provinces administratively to improve the governance and condition of the people of Pakistan. This is the fact and you have to accept that, this is another story that you have disliked the voice raised by Shahbaz Sharif. Leaders have to lead and guide the nation towards the better solution.
 

zardarifan

MPA (400+ posts)
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Once Punjab will be split into different Provinces, MQM will be the first who will demand Karachi, Hyderabs, Sukkur as one province,
 

shiningstar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: New provinces are needed in Sindh: Shahbaz Sharif - PPP. MQM, Q League, ANP all want to break Punjab and than Pakistan.Be

Why does MQM get all the blame? They havent even said anything about a Sairaiki province, all they said was any part of Pakistan that demanded a province should have a referendum in it to decide.

The Prime Minister called for a Sairaiki province. Blame him if you want to balme anyone. PML-Q called for a Sairaiki province, blame them too. Bus MQM ka naam liya aur sub pagal ho gaye
Lisant aur Taasub ke Banni hai GTT(GANG of Target Killers(Also known as MQM)), I remember and have heard myself, once Farooq Sattar was using the word 'Saraiki Province' outside the Parliment.
 

shiningstar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: New provinces are needed in Sindh: Shahbaz Sharif - PPP. MQM, Q League, ANP all want to break Punjab and than Pakistan.Be

Once Punjab will be split into different Provinces, MQM will be the first who will demand Karachi, Hyderabs, Sukkur as one province,
I agree with your statement 100%. Yeah munafiq log chahtay he yahe hain k koi aur sindh ko takseem kr day takay sara ilzaam us pay lagay........ aur in ki kawahish bhe puri ho jay.......
 

Gladiator

Councller (250+ posts)
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bhai, he is not being a traitor. he is simply hitting back and giving befitting response to MQM`s suggestion to create another province within Punjab.

if someone tries to break your house, wouldnt you also try to break his its called tit for tat

sada khush raho Shahbaaz bhai

He is simply a ******. These two brothers are such MF and they only think about how to make people fool....
these are all US pupits. US used same strategy in Yugoslavia to break the country.... US first created new provinces there and made federation weak and then divided country in pieces.

Keep making urself fool by praising these kanjars..

Sorry abt my language but enough is enough...
 

shiningstar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: New provinces are needed in Sindh: Shahbaz Sharif - PPP. MQM, Q League, ANP all want to break Punjab and than Pakistan.Be

Peoples of Sindh are not demanding for the new provinces. Karachities are also want to be live with Sindh then the statement of separation is simple illogical. Peoples of South Punjab (Saraiki, Bhawalpur and others) are demanding for their own province.
Bhawalpur was accession to the Pakistan rather India, Indian government asked the Nizam/Nawab of Bhawalpur to accessioned with India, India would gave him more than Pakistan but still peoples of Bahwalpur accessioned to Pakistan and then It was declared as a province after all Ayub khan dissolved the province.

The thread is based on illogical mind-set it should be deleted. @Moderators.
kyun bhai delete kyun kr dain..........INSHALLAH provinces puray pakistan main banay gaay aur administrative basis pay...........South Punjab ka banda itne duur say Lahore aata hai administrative kaam k laiya aur sindh ka banda itne duur Karachi jata hai............aap nai chahtay k powers devolute hoon aur logon ko sahulat ho.................
 

shiningstar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: New provinces are needed in Sindh: Shahbaz Sharif - PPP. MQM, Q League, ANP all want to break Punjab and than Pakistan.Be

He is simply a ******. These two brothers are such MF and they only think about how to make people fool....
these are all US pupits. US used same strategy in Yugoslavia to break the country.... US first created new provinces there and made federation weak and then divided country in pieces.

Keep making urself fool by praising these kanjars..

Sorry abt my language but enough is enough...
kyun bhai aap apnay ganday zehan say pooch kr batain k naay provinces kyun nai bannay chahiyain.................Are you against new provinces in any part of the country or just Sindh???
 

elipst

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: New provinces are needed in Sindh: Shahbaz Sharif - PPP. MQM, Q League, ANP all want to break Punjab and than Pakistan.Be

Bhai, we have to make new provinces administratively to improve the governance and condition of the people of Pakistan. This is the fact and you have to accept that, this is another story that you have disliked the voice raised by Shahbaz Sharif. Leaders have to lead and guide the nation towards the better solution.

My friend there are two different arguments here. One goes that there is a full scale movement for the creation of a South Punjab and now a Bhawalpur province and people there want a separate province so hold a referendum and let the people decide.

The other is the administrative argument. True there should be more provinces administratively for better governance then it is best left up to the local political leaders and the local administration to do what they see best. However for the sake of argument if Karachi is made a separate province it would be an administrative nightmare for the Sindh government to shift capitals and then the courts and the assembly