Nusrat Javed Terms Creation of Pakistan result of "Fasadaat" - Talks Trash about Two Nation Theory

SMAAS

Senator (1k+ posts)
Nusrat Javed theek keh raha hai or sath main minhaas toti b. masla ye hai k hum aik confuse qoum hain or humari history ko manipulate kia geya hai jis ko theek kerney ki zaroorat hai warna hum log confuse he rahein ge.
 

amber123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Congratulations your new CM or PM..........................in waiting .............:angry_smile:
 

Unicorn

Banned
Nusrat Javed theek keh raha hai or sath main minhaas toti b. masla ye hai k hum aik confuse qoum hain or humari history ko manipulate kia geya hai jis ko theek kerney ki zaroorat hai warna hum log confuse he rahein ge.

(clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)Very well said and I am the right person to set the record straight, with your permission. if not than without it.(bigsmile)(bigsmile)
 

amber123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Nusrat Javed theek keh raha hai or sath main minhaas toti b. masla ye hai k hum aik confuse qoum hain or humari history ko manipulate kia geya hai jis ko theek kerney ki zaroorat hai warna hum log confuse he rahein ge.
Its a deliberate confusion suitable to all sides. history of Pakistan is not a confusion, but vested interests and ethnic politics and so-called educated leaders (just dekhta ja aur sharmata ja: fake degree holders) confused the Two Nations theory, which evolved through a process after the experience of generation. It was not devised, not created, not culminated out of a philosophy of individuals or group, rather an outcome of centuries old bitter experience ans failed practices to live side by side not only peacefully but having a right of a fair an proportionate representative of minorities in a political set up. TWO NATIONS THEORY is not an embodiment of Islamic preachings and teachings and practices, rather an independence to exercise these practices within a territory, after exhausting all efforts of compromise with dominant Hindu based Indian elites. If Sikhs had demanded a separate state for themselves, it would have been called 'TWO NATIONS THEORY' as well. For Pakistan, Two Nations Theory' means to have an independent state where Muslin people could exercise their political rights. Islamic perception was used by the religious factions to claim their role and right of rule in political process. To understand the issue we should take the example of Taliban's claim of religious authority over the rest, mainly to stamp their rule in Pakistan.
 

Mullah Omar

Minister (2k+ posts)
You pretend that you are Minhas

No thanks....:lol: but anyways I am sure you are well aware of what the Two Nation theory and you must have come across Quaids quote where he beautifully explained the Two Nation theory so I don't need to describe it to you but if you don't know you can always look it up on google.
 

SMAAS

Senator (1k+ posts)
(clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)Very well said and I am the right person to set the record straight, with your permission. if not than without it.(bigsmile)(bigsmile)

Mujey maloom hai k app kia khao gye jawab main muger masla ye hai Pakistan aik zaroorat thi hai or rahey gi muslims ki muger confusion sirf is jaga per hai k Pakistan Quaid Azam ne as a muslim state baneya tha ya secular. lakin dono groups Pakistan k bunanay ki hameyat kertay hain rahein gye, or hur jaga jahan per Qoum turaki ker rahi ho ya dark ages se modern and civilized country main shift ho rahi hoti hai wahan per debates or arguments hotey hain or honey b chaye. or ye arguments kabi khatum nahi hoon gye is ka solution sirf compromise hai yani aik doosray ko smjhna or constitution ko time ke sath amed kerna. or bhi jaan app outsider hain app apna opinion rukhtay hain app k record straight kerney se ya na kerney humain or humray khubsoorat mulk ko koi furaq nahi perta. jesa ager india ki hum yahan per sara din raat maa behn aik kertay hain muger india main ya wahan k logoun main koi faraq nahi perta.
 

SMAAS

Senator (1k+ posts)
Its a deliberate confusion suitable to all sides. history of Pakistan is not a confusion, but vested interests and ethnic politics and so-called educated leaders (just dekhta ja aur sharmata ja: fake degree holders) confused the Two Nations theory, which evolved through a process after the experience of generation. It was not devised, not created, not culminated out of a philosophy of individuals or group, rather an outcome of centuries old bitter experience ans failed practices to live side by side not only peacefully but having a right of a fair an proportionate representative of minorities in a political set up. TWO NATIONS THEORY is not an embodiment of Islamic preachings and teachings and practices, rather an independence to exercise these practices within a territory, after exhausting all efforts of compromise with dominant Hindu based Indian elites. If Sikhs had demanded a separate state for themselves, it would have been called 'TWO NATIONS THEORY' as well. For Pakistan, Two Nations Theory' means to have an independent state where Muslin people could exercise their political rights. Islamic perception was used by the religious factions to claim their role and right of rule in political process. To understand the issue we should take the example of Taliban's claim of religious authority over the rest, mainly to stamp their rule in Pakistan.

deliberate confusion u r right thats why i said

Nusrat Javed theek keh raha hai or sath main minhaas toti b. masla ye hai k hum aik confuse qoum hain or humari history ko manipulate kia geya hai jis ko theek kerney ki zaroorat hai warna hum log confuse he rahein ge.

or sath main ye achi baat hai k Pakistani open mided hotay ja rahey hain or debates or logic k sath baat kernay k adi hotay ja rahey hain. hur qoum main aik waqt ata hai jub wo apni simt theek kertay howey apni buniyadoun ki turaf aik nazar dalti hai ye dekhnay k liye k wo theek track per hain k nahi or asea he Pakistan main ho raha hai jo k zaida daer nahi chalay ga. ye debates or bhaday bazi ho ge or akhir kar hum aik nazaria per united ho jae gein.
 

Aslan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
These two losers are a waste of time and space.The standard of analysis is below par.In fact its just a chit chat ,nothing substantive.
 

Unicorn

Banned
Mujey maloom hai k app kia khao gye jawab main muger masla ye hai Pakistan aik zaroorat thi hai or rahey gi muslims ki muger confusion sirf is jaga per hai k Pakistan Quaid Azam ne as a muslim state baneya tha ya secular. lakin dono groups Pakistan k bunanay ki hameyat kertay hain rahein gye, or hur jaga jahan per Qoum turaki ker rahi ho ya dark ages se modern and civilized country main shift ho rahi hoti hai wahan per debates or arguments hotey hain or honey b chaye. or ye arguments kabi khatum nahi hoon gye is ka solution sirf compromise hai yani aik doosray ko smjhna or constitution ko time ke sath amed kerna. or bhi jaan app outsider hain app apna opinion rukhtay hain app k record straight kerney se ya na kerney humain or humray khubsoorat mulk ko koi furaq nahi perta. jesa ager india ki hum yahan per sara din raat maa behn aik kertay hain muger india main ya wahan k logoun main koi faraq nahi perta.

Jinnah Sahib ke taqreeron mein tou Secular State bhi hai or Islamic state bhi hai. Jahnan tak mera Khyal hai ab Pakistan ko Chahey kay ek referamdum karay agar aksariat Islam State mein vote day tou Islam state bun jia aur Sharia kay rule Saudi-Arab sey import kar lay. Agar Secular vote ho to eik America jaisay mulk ka constitution import kar lay. Badi seethi si baat hai.
 

Unicorn

Banned
No thanks....:lol: but anyways I am sure you are well aware of what the Two Nation theory and you must have come across Quaids quote where he beautifully explained the Two Nation theory so I don't need to describe it to you but if you don't know you can always look it up on google.

Now I wanted a dialog relevant to 2013 with one step at a time:(:(:(. I think you just don't want to be Minhas because of his long big nose:lol:
 

amber123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
deliberate confusion u r right thats why i said

nusrat javed theek keh raha hai or sath main minhaas toti b. Masla ye hai k hum aik confuse qoum hain or humari history ko manipulate kia geya hai jis ko theek kerney ki zaroorat hai warna hum log confuse he rahein ge.

Or sath main ye achi baat hai k pakistani open mided hotay ja rahey hain or debates or logic k sath baat kernay k adi hotay ja rahey hain. Hur qoum main aik waqt ata hai jub wo apni simt theek kertay howey apni buniyadoun ki turaf aik nazar dalti hai ye dekhnay k liye k wo theek track per hain k nahi or asea he pakistan main ho raha hai jo k zaida daer nahi chalay ga. Ye debates or bhaday bazi ho ge or akhir kar hum aik nazaria per united ho jae gein.

very true we are in an evolutionary process.........................
 

SMAAS

Senator (1k+ posts)
Jinnah Sahib ke taqreeron mein tou Secular State bhi hai or Islamic state bhi hai. Jahnan tak mera Khyal hai ab Pakistan ko Chahey kay ek referamdum karay agar aksariat Islam State mein vote day tou Islam state bun jia aur Sharia kay rule Saudi-Arab sey import kar lay. Agar Secular vote ho to eik America jaisay mulk ka constitution import kar lay. Badi seethi si baat hai.

Ager ajj app Pakistan ka refrendum krein gye tou Mula Power Pakistan main itni hai k 80 percent se uper log Saudi type Sharia Law ki favour main vote dalein ge keun ke Pakistani society kafi saloun se asal education se hut ker jahil Molvioun k pechay lagi howi hai. or main smajhta hoon k Pakistan ka present constitution perfect hai keun k ye Islamic b hai jo k hur sect ko suit kerta hai sath main Westminster model per b base hai ye dono groups consertives and liberals ko suitable hai, is liye qanoon ko budalney ke bajae humain tolernce or education ki zaroorat hai takey hum debates and arguments k zarye aik common grounds per ponch jayein jis per sub ka itfaq ho.
 
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Unicorn

Banned
Ager ajj app Pakistan ka refrendum krein gye tou Mula Power Pakistan main itni hai k 80 percent se uper log Saudi type Sharia Law ki favour main vote dalein ge keun ke Pakistani society kafi saloun se asal education se hut ker jahil Molvioun k pechay lagi howi hai. or main smajhta hoon k Pakistan ka present constitution perfect hai keun k ye Islamic b hai jo k hur sect ko suit kerta hai sath main Westminster model per b base hai ye dono groups consertives and liberals ko suitable hai, is liye qanoon ko budalney ke bajae humain tolernce or education ki zaroorat hai takey hum debates and arguments k zarye aik common grounds per ponch jayein jis per sub ka itfaq ho.

Abhi to sirf naam ka Islamic republic hai. Na Islam log Khush hein na secular yeh bhoot toota foota rasta hai. Confusion tou tab khatam hoga jab ek ratay per log chalein. Agar Islam ho to kuch secular logon se todi dair tak ladna paraga agar secular ho to kuch dair tak kuch Talabonon kay saath mugar koi confusion nahi hoga. Yeh meri rai hai.
 

SMAAS

Senator (1k+ posts)
Abhi to sirf naam ka Islamic republic hai. Na Islam log Khush hein na secular yeh bhoot toota foota rasta hai. Confusion tou tab khatam hoga jab ek ratay per log chalein. Agar Islam ho to kuch secular logon se todi dair tak ladna paraga agar secular ho to kuch dair tak kuch Talabonon kay saath mugar koi confusion nahi hoga. Yeh meri rai hai.

Masla itna asan hota tou ab tuk hul ho jata duniya ab aik Global village bun chuki hai or ager secular government fundamentalist se laray ge tou ye haal ho ga jo ab Pakistan ka ho raha hai or ager true Islamic government bun ker liberal ko marai ge tou international community specially India, US, Israel shor dalain ge ke Taliban and alqaeda a gae Pakistan main atomic bomb terrorist k hath main tou phir kia ho ga humara *****. sari duniya hum per dunday le ker a jae ge. tou hum kider jaein ge.
 

Unicorn

Banned
Masla itna asan hota tou ab tuk hul ho jata duniya ab aik Global village bun chuki hai or ager secular government fundamentalist se laray ge tou ye haal ho ga jo ab Pakistan ka ho raha hai or ager true Islamic government bun ker liberal ko marai ge tou international community specially India, US, Israel shor dalain ge ke Taliban and alqaeda a gae Pakistan main atomic bomb terrorist k hath main tou phir kia ho ga humara *****. sari duniya hum per dunday le ker a jae ge. tou hum kider jaein ge.

Indonesia is a Muslim Secular country the are fighting only a few Talabans. In case of Pakistan they would have to fight with a few more and its only the result of their own mistakes and those mistakes will have to be rectified mistakes that cost Pakistan and it will cost again to rectify there is no way out. In an Islamic state secular are not going to fight with guns some of them will stay and put up and some will leave Pakistan. I can give you example of some of the Saudi seculars. Status quo is the worst. The confusion is only which option shall be used once the voters decided there is no confussion.
 

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