NYT calls on US to get ISI chief removed

Bilal_Mushi

Minister (2k+ posts)
NYT calls on US to get ISI chief removed

From the Newspaper

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Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and Lt-Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha during a meeting in Islamabad.—File photo


NEW YORK: In what is seen here as an unprecedented attack on the chief of Pakistan’s premier intelligence agency, the ISI, a leading American newspaper called upon the US government on Friday to use its influence to hasten departure of Lt-Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha.

“It should tell Pakistan’s security leadership that if Washington identifies anyone in ISI or the army as abetting terrorists, those individuals will face sanctions like travel bans or other measures.”


The New York Times came up with an editorial which lashed out at ISI and said it had “become inimical to Pakistani and American interests” and asked President Asif Ali Zardari “to speak out firmly against abuses, insist on adherence to the rule of law and join his political rival, Nawaz Sharif, in pressing the security services to change”.


“That can start by insisting on the retirement of Lt-Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha, the ISI chief, and the appointment of a more credible successor,” the newspaper said in a second editorial on the murder of journalist Saleem Shahzad.


The editorial said: “Now the Obama administration has evidence implicating the ISI in this brutal killing.” According to The Times’s Jane Perlez and Eric Schmitt, American officials say new intelligence indicates that senior ISI officials ordered the attack on Mr Shahzad to silence him.


Adm Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, confirmed on Thursday that Pakistan’s government “sanctioned” the killing, but he did not tie it directly to ISI.—Masood Haider

http://www.dawn.com/2011/07/09/nyt-calls-on-us-to-get-isi-chief-removed.html


ISPR rejects NYT reports against Army, ISI

Updated at: 2005 PST, Saturday, July 09, 2011
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RAWALPINDI: DG ISPR Major General Athar Abbas Saturday rejected the allegations leveled against the Army and ISI in series of 'unsubstantiated' news reports published by the American newspaper New York Times.

According to ISPR, DG ISPR during an interview with a foreign news agency said that in recent weeks the New York Times has continued to publish wild claims presented as news stories on the basis on information supposedly provided by unnamed US officials.

He added that in most cases such news reports have quoted anonymous US sources, bringing the veracity of their reporting into question.

Recalling NYT's apology of March 2004 about some of its coverage of the Iraq war, General Abbas said at that time the newspaper had this to say: "In some cases, information that was controversial then, and seems questionable now, was insufficiently qualified or allowed to stand unchallenged. Looking back, we wish we had been more aggressive in reexamining the claims as new evidence emerged-or failed to emerge".

The Military Spokesman further said: "if the newspaper continues with its vilifying campaign without any concrete evidence, I am afraid at some point it may end up expressing its deep regret the way it did in the case of its Iraq coverage.
 
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habib22

MPA (400+ posts)
we Pakistani insist to remove CIA chief and defense secretary and US ambassador to Pakistan for involving to use the embassy to Party with GAYS to satisfy his needs.and to attempt to damage the Image of America.
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
NYT calls on US to get ISI chief removed

NEW YORK: In what is seen here as an unprecedented attack on the chief of Pakistan’s premier intelligence agency, the ISI, a leading American newspaper called upon the US government on Friday to use its influence to hasten departure of Lt-Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha.

“It should tell Pakistan’s security leadership that if Washington identifies anyone in ISI or the army as abetting terrorists, those individuals will face sanctions like travel bans or other measures.”


The New York Times came up with an editorial which lashed out at ISI and said it had “become inimical to Pakistani and American interests” and asked President Asif Ali Zardari “to speak out firmly against abuses, insist on adherence to the rule of law and join his political rival, Nawaz Sharif, in pressing the security services to change”.

“That can start by insisting on the retirement of Lt-Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha, the ISI chief, and the appointment of a more credible successor,” the newspaper said in a second editorial on the murder of journalist Saleem Shahzad.


The editorial said: “Now the Obama administration has evidence implicating the ISI in this brutal killing.” According to The Times’s Jane Perlez and Eric Schmitt, American officials say new intelligence indicates that senior ISI officials ordered the attack on Mr Shahzad to silence him.


Adm Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, confirmed on Thursday that Pakistan’s government “sanctioned” the killing, but he did not tie it directly to ISI.—Masood Haider

http://www.dawn.com/2011/07/09/nyt-calls-on-us-to-get-isi-chief-removed.html

It seems that CIA is in the throws of pain and their a**ss is aching as ISI is pumping them without lubricant. The are finding no safer way to flee Afghanistan. They are reacting like injured snake with ants on its tail as their assets in the media and are being filtered out and given the traitors their due treatment. Now see, How their both the assets Mir jaafar (Ghardari) and Mir Saa-dick (Nawaz Shareef) and their CIA's armed wing MQM come to the rescue of their masters who hold the belt around their fat pig like necks, and control all the looted/plundered money of the poor. Remember d.o.g.s are very faithful animals, may they be underd.ogs.
 
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Bombaybuz

Minister (2k+ posts)
we Pakistani insist to remove CIA chief and defense secretary and US ambassador to Pakistan for involving to use the embassy to Party with GAYS to satisfy his needs.and to attempt to damage the Image of America.

No brother we should not expect this sort of reply from these gilani's and Zardari's ... they got no balls but a tail in place which wags for their masters in NY.
 
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crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
we Pakistani insist to remove CIA chief and defense secretary and US ambassador to Pakistan for involving to use the embassy to Party with GAYS to satisfy his needs.and to attempt to damage the Image of America.

good, please add the name of Pakistani Ambassador to United State, Hussain Haqqani. Zaradari should remove him too, he is the biggest threat to Pakistan, greater than the three post holders you pointed.
 

change

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
I demand Ghadar Pasha should be hanged.

Besides that each and every general and core commander should be awarded Death Penalty for selling Pakistan and killing innocent human beings in Afghanistan and Pakistan. These inhuman, duffer, shamless and brainless trator generals deserve even more.
 

hamza100

Councller (250+ posts)
i think its time for pasha to go home. he has done his job with US.all missions done. and its US policy to throw people and nations like tissue paper when they have completed their mission.
 

hamza100

Councller (250+ posts)
so all people know about the reality of Pakistan army .US newspaper knew that all generals are made with US approval.

do you think such an army can save us in bad times
 

BrotherKantu

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I demand Ghadar Pasha should be hanged.

Besides that each and every general and core commander should be awarded Death Penalty for selling Pakistan and killing innocent human beings in Afghanistan and Pakistan. These inhuman, duffer, shamless and brainless trator generals deserve even more.
If you are Pakistani and stupid , you need not to tell the whole world that you are stupid. As a friend I suggest you to keep you mouth shut.
 
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BrotherKantu

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
i think its time for pasha to go home. he has done his job with US.all missions done. and its US policy to throw people and nations like tissue paper when they have completed their mission.

My advise to you is the same as I gave to change. Ignorance is not an excuse, it is sin. This super powers game is too much for your room temperature IQ
 

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
good, please add the name of Pakistani Ambassador to United State, Hussain Haqqani. Zaradari should remove him too, he is the biggest threat to Pakistan, greater than the three post holders you pointed.

He looks after Zardari's business and other assessts in US !!
 

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
NYT calls on US to get ISI chief removed

From the Newspaper

shuja-pasha-543.jpg
Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and Lt-Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha during a meeting in Islamabad.—File photo


NEW YORK: In what is seen here as an unprecedented attack on the chief of Pakistan’s premier intelligence agency, the ISI, a leading American newspaper called upon the US government on Friday to use its influence to hasten departure of Lt-Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha.

“It should tell Pakistan’s security leadership that if Washington identifies anyone in ISI or the army as abetting terrorists, those individuals will face sanctions like travel bans or other measures.”


The New York Times came up with an editorial which lashed out at ISI and said it had “become inimical to Pakistani and American interests” and asked President Asif Ali Zardari “to speak out firmly against abuses, insist on adherence to the rule of law and join his political rival, Nawaz Sharif, in pressing the security services to change”.


“That can start by insisting on the retirement of Lt-Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha, the ISI chief, and the appointment of a more credible successor,” the newspaper said in a second editorial on the murder of journalist Saleem Shahzad.


The editorial said: “Now the Obama administration has evidence implicating the ISI in this brutal killing.” According to The Times’s Jane Perlez and Eric Schmitt, American officials say new intelligence indicates that senior ISI officials ordered the attack on Mr Shahzad to silence him.


Adm Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, confirmed on Thursday that Pakistan’s government “sanctioned” the killing, but he did not tie it directly to ISI.—Masood Haider

http://www.dawn.com/2011/07/09/nyt-calls-on-us-to-get-isi-chief-removed.html

Pakistan should ask US to remove Adm. Mike Mullen from his post.
 

Agarwal

Councller (250+ posts)
Pakistan should ask US to remove Adm. Mike Mullen from his post.[/QUOTE

Rise above petty issues. Arguments and counter arguments are never a solution to a disastrous situation. Better ignore such 'planted' stories and concentrate how to better educate your forum colleagues WHO didn't read and write "English". They need a translation by 'wadaich' to understand the gravity of situation. To be fair and honest, we must encourage our fellow members to move a head of "ONE" line comment.
 

United4Pak

Minister (2k+ posts)
Pakistan should ask US to remove Adm. Mike Mullen from his post.[/QUOTE

Rise above petty issues. Arguments and counter arguments are never a solution to a disastrous situation. Better ignore such 'planted' stories and concentrate how to better educate your forum colleagues WHO didn't read and write "English". They need a translation by 'wadaich' to understand the gravity of situation. To be fair and honest, we must encourage our fellow members to move a head of "ONE" line comment.

Great Nations never needed English lessons to become great. China and Japan are recent examples. Democracy that Indians boast about a lot is not dependent on Indians English because a poor illiterate farmer can make as good decision as an educated PhD.

Can you please give me marks out of ten on my English please.
 

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Great Nations never needed English lessons to become great. China and Japan are recent examples. Democracy that Indians boast about a lot is not dependent on Indians English because a poor illiterate farmer can make as good decision as an educated PhD.

Can you please give me marks out of ten on my English please.

9 out of 10.I deducted one mark because you mentioned my dear friend wadaich.:)
 

Bilal_Mushi

Minister (2k+ posts)
ISPR rejects NYT reports against Army, ISI

Updated at: 2005 PST, Saturday, July 09, 2011
7-9-2011_83516_l.jpg
RAWALPINDI: DG ISPR Major General Athar Abbas Saturday rejected the allegations leveled against the Army and ISI in series of 'unsubstantiated' news reports published by the American newspaper New York Times.

According to ISPR, DG ISPR during an interview with a foreign news agency said that in recent weeks the New York Times has continued to publish wild claims presented as news stories on the basis on information supposedly provided by unnamed US officials.

He added that in most cases such news reports have quoted anonymous US sources, bringing the veracity of their reporting into question.

Recalling NYT's apology of March 2004 about some of its coverage of the Iraq war, General Abbas said at that time the newspaper had this to say: "In some cases, information that was controversial then, and seems questionable now, was insufficiently qualified or allowed to stand unchallenged. Looking back, we wish we had been more aggressive in reexamining the claims as new evidence emerged-or failed to emerge".

The Military Spokesman further said: "if the newspaper continues with its vilifying campaign without any concrete evidence, I am afraid at some point it may end up expressing its deep regret the way it did in the case of its Iraq coverage.