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Yar, I am really sick from Orya, he keeps giving us this crap of people who could have knowledge of the unseen. He is doing a disservice to Pakistani nation.
Why we are still accepting this kind of thinking and philosophy that any one could be more important than our Prophet SAW (may peace and blessing be upon him) in the world, ever?
Allah SWT very clearly declared it in the Holy Quran,
عَالِمُ الْغَيْبِ فَلَا يُظْهِرُ عَلَى غَيْبِهِ أَحَدًا (72:26)
72:26 He [alone] knows that which is beyond the reach of a created being's perception, and to none does He disclose aught of the mysteries of His Own unfathomable knowledge,
So, why people like Orya keep making exceptions when Allah SWT clearly said Ahada meanings to none He SWT disclose the knowledge of the unseen.
The only exception made in the Holy Quran is for the revelations received by the prophets, which is in the next verse of the Holy Quran.
لَّا مَنِ ارْتَضَى مِن رَّسُولٍ فَإِنَّهُ يَسْلُكُ مِن بَيْنِ يَدَيْهِ وَمِنْ خَلْفِهِ رَصَدًا (72:27)
72:27 unless it be to an apostle whom He has been pleased to elect [there for]: and then He sends forth [the forces of heaven] to watch over him in whatever lies open before him and in what is beyond his ken
Exception of Prophets is also only for the revelations received by them and nothing else. The revelations are in fact the Word of Allah SWT prophets are only the medium to convey the Word of Allah SWT to the humans. The knowledge of the unseen always is with Allah SWT and Him Alone according to the Holy Quran.
This message is clear from the next verse, which categorically explain why the forces of heaven i.e. the Angels guarded the Prophets and revelations received by them.
لِيَعْلَمَ أَن قَدْ أَبْلَغُوا رِسَالَاتِ رَبِّهِمْ وَأَحَاطَ بِمَا لَدَيْهِمْ وَأَحْصَى كُلَّ شَيْءٍ عَدَدًا (72:28)
72:28 so as to make manifest that it is indeed [but] their Sustainer's messages that these [apostles] deliver: for it is He who encompasses [with His knowledge] all that they have [to say], just as He takes count, one by one, of everything [that exists].
The meaning is quite clear Allah SWT encompasses with His Knowledge what the Prophets had to say to their followers.
Even that transfer of limited knowledge for our guidance through Prophetic revelations has stopped after Prophet SAW (may peace and blessing be upon him).
قُل لاَّ أَقُولُ لَكُمْ عِندِي خَزَآئِنُ اللّهِ وَلا أَعْلَمُ الْغَيْبَ وَلا أَقُولُ لَكُمْ إِنِّي مَلَكٌ إِنْ أَتَّبِعُ إِلاَّ مَا يُوحَى إِلَيَّ قُلْ هَلْ يَسْتَوِي الأَعْمَى وَالْبَصِيرُ أَفَلاَ تَتَفَكَّرُونَ (6:50
6:50 Say [O Prophet]: "I do not say unto you, 'God's treasures are with me,'; nor [do I say], 'I know the things that are beyond the reach of human perception'; nor do I say unto you, 'Behold, I am an angel': I but follow what is revealed to me." Say: "Can the blind and the seeing be deemed equal? Will you not, then, take thought?"
Prophet Muhammad SAW (May peace and blessing be upon him) was addressed by use of the word Qul, indicating the announcement by Allah SWTs command through Prophet Laaqol I dont say Gods treasures or AlimulGhaib is with me but I follow what is revealed to me.
If Allah SWT has given us the clear message that Prophet SAW (may peace and blessing be upon him) the best and the greatest and last Prophet and Human ever lived on Earth, had to declare that he SAW (may peace and blessing be upon him) follows what is revealed to him SAW (may peace and blessing be upon him) through the angels, protected by Allah SWT.
In the last part of the verse it is made clear by rhetorical questions in the Holy Quran, can the blind and the seeing be deemed equal? The word used for seeing is Al-Baser, which is one of the Sifat of Allah SWT.
The message is clear, no human i.e. blind can be equal to the Seeing, Al-Baser.
Without shadow of any doubt the knowledge of the unseen is and always was with Allah SWT. Nobody amongst the human from inception of the world to its end can be equal to Prophet Muhammad SAW (may peace and blessing be upon him). Allah SWT has given us clear message by addressing him SAW (may peace and blessing be upon him) and making a proclamation through him SAW (may peace and blessing be upon him) that the knowledge of the Unseen is with Allah SWT alone.
How these people getting the knowledge of the unseen through revelations even when Prophethood has ended?
Isnt this done by the seers and other people who predict future by means which are forbidden in Islam?
We should unite and stand together, instead of divisions and disharmony. When harm comes it does not distinguish between good and bad people.
We all can predict future events by just analysing the present events; there are logical conclusions for every event. Oriya always writes after the events. He and Haroon Rasheed keep giving us the news from many who are knower of the unseen, and are gifted by visions of the future.
By this standard Nostradamus was far superior. Would you agree that he was amongst the Gods chosen ones? I am sure no Muslim would. Why do we buy this kind of thinking?
Why we are still accepting this kind of thinking and philosophy that any one could be more important than our Prophet SAW (may peace and blessing be upon him) in the world, ever?
Allah SWT very clearly declared it in the Holy Quran,
عَالِمُ الْغَيْبِ فَلَا يُظْهِرُ عَلَى غَيْبِهِ أَحَدًا (72:26)
72:26 He [alone] knows that which is beyond the reach of a created being's perception, and to none does He disclose aught of the mysteries of His Own unfathomable knowledge,
So, why people like Orya keep making exceptions when Allah SWT clearly said Ahada meanings to none He SWT disclose the knowledge of the unseen.
The only exception made in the Holy Quran is for the revelations received by the prophets, which is in the next verse of the Holy Quran.
لَّا مَنِ ارْتَضَى مِن رَّسُولٍ فَإِنَّهُ يَسْلُكُ مِن بَيْنِ يَدَيْهِ وَمِنْ خَلْفِهِ رَصَدًا (72:27)
72:27 unless it be to an apostle whom He has been pleased to elect [there for]: and then He sends forth [the forces of heaven] to watch over him in whatever lies open before him and in what is beyond his ken
Exception of Prophets is also only for the revelations received by them and nothing else. The revelations are in fact the Word of Allah SWT prophets are only the medium to convey the Word of Allah SWT to the humans. The knowledge of the unseen always is with Allah SWT and Him Alone according to the Holy Quran.
This message is clear from the next verse, which categorically explain why the forces of heaven i.e. the Angels guarded the Prophets and revelations received by them.
لِيَعْلَمَ أَن قَدْ أَبْلَغُوا رِسَالَاتِ رَبِّهِمْ وَأَحَاطَ بِمَا لَدَيْهِمْ وَأَحْصَى كُلَّ شَيْءٍ عَدَدًا (72:28)
72:28 so as to make manifest that it is indeed [but] their Sustainer's messages that these [apostles] deliver: for it is He who encompasses [with His knowledge] all that they have [to say], just as He takes count, one by one, of everything [that exists].
The meaning is quite clear Allah SWT encompasses with His Knowledge what the Prophets had to say to their followers.
Even that transfer of limited knowledge for our guidance through Prophetic revelations has stopped after Prophet SAW (may peace and blessing be upon him).
قُل لاَّ أَقُولُ لَكُمْ عِندِي خَزَآئِنُ اللّهِ وَلا أَعْلَمُ الْغَيْبَ وَلا أَقُولُ لَكُمْ إِنِّي مَلَكٌ إِنْ أَتَّبِعُ إِلاَّ مَا يُوحَى إِلَيَّ قُلْ هَلْ يَسْتَوِي الأَعْمَى وَالْبَصِيرُ أَفَلاَ تَتَفَكَّرُونَ (6:50
6:50 Say [O Prophet]: "I do not say unto you, 'God's treasures are with me,'; nor [do I say], 'I know the things that are beyond the reach of human perception'; nor do I say unto you, 'Behold, I am an angel': I but follow what is revealed to me." Say: "Can the blind and the seeing be deemed equal? Will you not, then, take thought?"
Prophet Muhammad SAW (May peace and blessing be upon him) was addressed by use of the word Qul, indicating the announcement by Allah SWTs command through Prophet Laaqol I dont say Gods treasures or AlimulGhaib is with me but I follow what is revealed to me.
If Allah SWT has given us the clear message that Prophet SAW (may peace and blessing be upon him) the best and the greatest and last Prophet and Human ever lived on Earth, had to declare that he SAW (may peace and blessing be upon him) follows what is revealed to him SAW (may peace and blessing be upon him) through the angels, protected by Allah SWT.
In the last part of the verse it is made clear by rhetorical questions in the Holy Quran, can the blind and the seeing be deemed equal? The word used for seeing is Al-Baser, which is one of the Sifat of Allah SWT.
The message is clear, no human i.e. blind can be equal to the Seeing, Al-Baser.
Without shadow of any doubt the knowledge of the unseen is and always was with Allah SWT. Nobody amongst the human from inception of the world to its end can be equal to Prophet Muhammad SAW (may peace and blessing be upon him). Allah SWT has given us clear message by addressing him SAW (may peace and blessing be upon him) and making a proclamation through him SAW (may peace and blessing be upon him) that the knowledge of the Unseen is with Allah SWT alone.
How these people getting the knowledge of the unseen through revelations even when Prophethood has ended?
Isnt this done by the seers and other people who predict future by means which are forbidden in Islam?
We should unite and stand together, instead of divisions and disharmony. When harm comes it does not distinguish between good and bad people.
We all can predict future events by just analysing the present events; there are logical conclusions for every event. Oriya always writes after the events. He and Haroon Rasheed keep giving us the news from many who are knower of the unseen, and are gifted by visions of the future.
By this standard Nostradamus was far superior. Would you agree that he was amongst the Gods chosen ones? I am sure no Muslim would. Why do we buy this kind of thinking?
