MileStone said:
Abbas Ali sb, Thanks for the reply.
In a nut shell, I believe, in your comment, you are asking that what were the achievements of Musharraf , if there were, then how it impacted the common man on the street.
I am just going to give few examples, and I would expect a rational reply rather than calling it all just JHOOT.
1. Dollar maintained the value of 60 rupees during Musharraf tenure. It was jacked up to almost 100 rupees in Zardari's government right away and then it came down to about 83 rupees now, and this PPP government is taking all the credit that they brought dollar down from 100 rs to 83 rs.
2. Dollar rose almost 50%, so if someone was earning 10,000 rs a month, now they will have to some how manage 15,000 rs in order to maintain the same life style. Because of this reason poverty has increased in Pakistan because of this snow ball affect. Poverty over all actually decreased by almost 10% in Musharraf's tenure.
3. Compare the price of the goods and commodities from early 2007 to now, and you will know, how Musharraf affected the common man of Pakistan.
4. I know people in Karachi who got jobs to Sui Southern gas and other government offices without any PARCHI, and this kind of thing is impossible to think in PPP government. They are just inducting all the jiyalas without any merit. Same is happening in Punjab by PML-N.
5. I am not going to say the following about the whole country as I dont have first hand knowledge, but large, medium and small businessmen in Karachi are saying this since Musharraf left that, "Musharraf Gaya, Khush Haali Chali Gayee".
6. Pakistan had more respect in the world during Musharraf's tenure than now. Now even friends of Pakistan, countries like KSA and China does not want to loan or give money to Pakistan, because they know that money will go directly into the pocket of Zardari and Nawaz Sharif.
All the above can be verified by doing some googling. I have lot of other things to list too, but I just listed few, because, in your opinion, nothing good happened in Pakistan in Musharraf's tenure and you asked me for some example and I listed some.
Will wait for your reply, Have a good weekend.
WOW
I love this reply, at least something got involve which we call brain storming rather than personal accusation,
1. Dollar maintained the value of 60 rupees during Musharraf tenure. It was jacked up to almost 100 rupees in Zardari's government right away and then it came down to about 83 rupees now, and this PPP government is taking all the credit that they brought dollar down from 100 rs to 83 rs.
Credit of keeping rate of Rs.60 against dollar was another disaster, they were simply incentifying Rs. against dollar so when trade was involve it was trading on Rs.60 but under the table high incentive was offered, which was a direct loss to national treasury but unfortunately PM who claimed to be the expert of economics, had played this game, and it was quite obvious when new government came in they couldn't maintain that practice, and in result government have to devalue Rs. which had gone up to the highest level, and some how they are trying bring down the rates by using the loan money in trade and keeping national treasury under more and more burden, so the thing which we all have to understand, that valuation or devaluation were never under the control of previous or current government, they are just playing with figures. and it was only a paper work.
2. Dollar rose almost 50%, so if someone was earning 10,000 rs a month, now they will have to some how manage 15,000 rs in order to maintain the same life style. Because of this reason poverty has increased in Pakistan because of this snow ball affect. Poverty over all actually decreased by almost 10% in Musharraf's tenure.
What are you trying to elaborate with this? its quite understood, if dollar rate will rise, you need to earn more Rs. here Dollar rate was going high and so called it was stuck on Rs.60 but income rate of a common person had gone down, could you please provide one example of a common man's increased rate of income as compared to previous years. Poverty rate had gone upward rather than decrease.
3. Compare the price of the goods and commodities from early 2007 to now, and you will know, how Musharraf affected the common man of Pakistan.
Well thats another disaster, they camouflage by keeping the rates low, and it was happening only by giving higher rates of subsidiary, which was causing a heavy load on Pakistani reserves. So make it more simple my tax money spend on me by giving subsidary to the commodities, they could have taken more concrete steps in this regard to ease for the next government and specially for people of Pakistan. Now the latest disaster of subsidary which are going to see soon, that would be because of IMF insist on taking off the subsidiary on electricity so then public would face straight rise on their bills. So they simply took some steps which were temperaroy and now Pakistani will suffer.
Well your 4 th one is itself unbelievable, being a Karachi-ate and after suffering a lot, wouldn't find any other option rather than availing the opportunity for overseas, but still watching my brothers and sister suffering with same scenario which I had suffer, it would be hard to believe, but only for this I will take your words, otherwise, up to now my recent experience is even in Karachi, if you wouldn't use the Parchi, you won't get fits in.
5. I am not going to say the following about the whole country as I dont have first hand knowledge, but large, medium and small businessmen in Karachi are saying this since Musharraf left that, "Musharraf Gaya, Khush Haali Chali Gayee".
So far none of my relative or friends have quote your golden words, as per them it was worst in Musharaf time and now there is no limit.
6. Pakistan had more respect in the world during Musharraf's tenure than now. Now even friends of Pakistan, countries like KSA and China does not want to loan or give money to Pakistan, because they know that money will go directly into the pocket of Zardari and Nawaz Sharif.
Being an overseas resident over 18 years and having been dealt with higher authorities, I have my personal regret able experience, which we had about Pakistan. But if you would like to elaborate more on it, I will appreciate. I think you shouldn't compare Musharaf and current government, this Government is a continuation of Musharaf Government, so what would happened to Pakistan now, it would be remain same, if Musharaf would have had survived as President.
At last I would really say, that I really enjoy this argument, because we focus on something, which is actually main core, rather than personal accusation.
Plus how could I accuse someone personal, who share with me Pakistan. Take care,
Have a very wonderful week end.
Regards.
