Problems In Karachi Must Read !!
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TWISTER09 said:
CCPO Karachi has already Admitted it.
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I love MQM.
These tribal area criminals must be kicked out.
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The rise of the Taliban, the fall of Karachi
In the national interest
Monday, March 30, 2009
Kamal Siddiqi
The writer is editor reporting, The News
Earlier this week, a family friend got off from her car and walked to a chemists shop in a busy shopping area of Karachi. She was wearing a normal shalwar- kameez suit that most Karachi women wear in public areas. Nothing out of the ordinary. As she walked to the shop, a man approached her and showed her a pistol.
But instead of robbing her, he gave her a chilling message: Next time you come in public, cover yourself from head to toe. This happened in full public view on a busy Karachi street. But no one seemed to notice and the man did not in any way seem in any hurry or worry.
The reference of this incident happening to a family friend has only been done to make people understand that this is not an urban myth but a reality. It is happening in Karachi, the countrys largest and possibly most open city. There are more worrisome incidents than one can recall.
Many businessmen have received calls on their cell phones in which the caller does not identify himself but does confirm the name of the person he has called. After a couple of days comes another call. And then another. The businessman is told to contribute a certain amount to the Tehreek-e-Taliban.
One businessman shrugged this off as a hoax. But soon enough there were men who called at his house and made the same demand, only this time they also mentioned that they not only knew where he lived, but where he worked, which schools his children went to, and other details.
The man ended up paying. No one knows who these people are. Some say they are criminals who are using the name of the Taliban. Who knows?
A family in Clifton last month received a notice which was addressed to the father. In it, he was told to ensure that his daughters who were described in the letter in very negative terms should be told to stay home since they were seen to be of loose character. The letter warned the father to take action, otherwise the mosque will have to do something. The crime of these girls apparently was that they were seen too frequently moving around and that too in Western clothes.
The writers of this threatening letter even disclosed their identity. The claimed to be from a prominent mosque, situated in the market area of Clifton. The shaken family did as they were told. Many families have received such letters and in most instances they have complied. No action or questions have been asked of the people at this mosque. The police shrugs this off as nothing important.
Last year, this mosque was identified by the MQM when it made an outcry on the rise in Talibanisation in Karachi. But the Peoples Party government has been denying the rise of extremist forces in Karachi for the year since it has been in power. Some say that the motives of the MQM are suspect. Their agenda is more political. But then again, who is right and who is wrong?
Stories continue to surface of the growing influence of such elements. Women who travel without their heads covered in public transport have been spat upon. In some instances by other women.
The media has helped confuse the people even more. Programmes aired by our leading channels on religious issues sometimes misguide instead of guide. They play on the sentiments of people only to get better ratings. After all, one of the most prominent religious show hosts ended up becoming a minister.
The tragedy, if one may call it that, is that there is a growing number of people in Karachi who welcome the arrival of the purveyors of quick and cheap justice. And are willing to defend, fund and shelter them. They sympathise with the soldiers of their brand of Islam because the government has let them down. And they are frustrated over the growing incidents of crime and lawlessness and have no hope in the government addressing these issues. Both the military junta and the elected peoples representatives are seen more interested in protecting and enriching themselves than providing good governance to the people. This is the public perception.
Two video clips that have been circulating on the Internet only add to peoples fear and plays on their insecurity. One clip, which is perhaps one of the most watched and forwarded clips in Pakistan this week, shows how a man is mugged while he is taking money out of an ATM in Gulshan-e-Iqbal, Karachi.
The clip, which was taken off a security camera of the bank, clearly shows the face of the man, the two men who rob him and the look of frustration and helplessness on the victims face once the deed is done. While there is no violence, except where the robber shows the poor man a gun and then hides it, it leaves one disturbed and it is chilling for anyone who has any care for Pakistan. Is this what we have been reduced to, and where do we go from here?
The other clip, which has not been seen by as many people, is violent and much more chilling. This clip was made from a mobile phone by the accomplice of a man who is currently in police custody. This is now known as the Hajiano case or the White Corolla case. This man robbed people and raped women at will for a year. This clip relates to one incident where a woman is being assaulted.
The clip numbs the brain and makes one bay for blood. After seeing this video, people have said that an exemplary punishment should be given to the perpetrator. One hopes this is done, but there are many who have expressed fears that the case will soon be forgotten. The womens rights organisations which had earlier come out on the streets now seem to have been lulled into silence. Let us hope for justice. There are some who say that this matter would have been settled had the Taliban been in charge.
These are worrisome sentiments. In his speech this week, President Obama has committed more money to Pakistan to crush Al-Qaeda. He said in his speech that the Al-Qaeda and its extremist allies (like the Taliban) are a cancer that risks killing Pakistan from within. The problem is that many Pakistanis do not see it like that anymore.
To defeat extremist elements, the US and Pakistan have to do more than pump in more military and economic assistance which never reaches the common man. There is a larger battle, for the hearts and minds of the people of Pakistan, which needs to be fought. This is not being done.
We do not want any more VOA-TV type propaganda that, in its condescending way creates more enemies then friends. We want a proper dialogue with the US and the West over what its goals are and whether these are our goals as well. Whether we like it or not, the battle for a safer America cannot be won if the people of Pakistan are not convinced. This is the stark reality, no matter how many drone attacks are carried out on the one hand and assistance is given to our government on the other.
It was true of the Musharraf government and is becoming increasingly true of the Zardari government too. The people of Pakistan are not seen as stakeholders in the battle against militants and extremism. It is too often said that while the West talks to our leaders, Al Qaeda and the Taliban talk to the people. Sadly, this is an issue President Obama has not addressed.
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sagaciouscorpion
MPA (400+ posts)
In halaat kay zimedaar
sagaciouscorpion
MPA (400+ posts)
Ohooo............ Inhain bhi pata hai talban ki haqeeqat...
PAKI-MEHBOOB
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
(MQM) MEANS MUTHIDA QATIL MOVEMENT ; PLS MQM SA PAKISTAN KO BACHAO MQM KA KUCH LOG DR AMIR LIAQAT JAISA JO MQM KO SAMJHE GAY HAI UNOO NA ISS TERRORIST TEAM KO CHODE DIA HAI PLS SAFE THE PAKISTAN AUR IMRAN KHAN JAISAY LOGOON KO AGAY ANAY DO AUR NAWAZ SHARIF JAISA LOGOON KI
HEL KARO HE IS A LOVER PAKISTAN USS KI HELP KARO
HEL KARO HE IS A LOVER PAKISTAN USS KI HELP KARO
People of Karachi have evolved, they know whats good for them and whats not good for them that's why they devotedly vote for MQM. We don't need Punjabis to tell us who to vote.
Jeay MQM, Jeay Pakistan
Following are the faces of real traitors of Pakistan. Faces of evil
:twisted: :twisted: [nawaz] [shahbaz sharif] [zardari] [taseer] [imran] [fazl] [rehman-malik] :twisted: :twisted:
Jeay MQM, Jeay Pakistan
Following are the faces of real traitors of Pakistan. Faces of evil
:twisted: :twisted: [nawaz] [shahbaz sharif] [zardari] [taseer] [imran] [fazl] [rehman-malik] :twisted: :twisted:
sagaciouscorpion said:
Their is no room for gutter press in this forum. Why I consider UMMAT, JASARAT, TAKBEER gutter press, are the following reasons.
1) When editor Takbeer was murdered, like always JAMAATI mentality, UMMAT accused MQM. And for about hundreds of days. The daily publised in the news paper, how many days have gone but the murderer of editor TAKBEER, hasn't caught, yet. But the day, Late editor of Takbeer's daughter openly said, his father was killed by his husband. The gutter press DAILY UMMAT quite. Now body knows, what happened to invistigation. Even DAILY UMMAT has no intrest, because his scheme was failed because daughter of the SALAUDDIN.
2) After 9/11, The daily UMMAT, had been publishing the statement of OSAMA BIN LADEN. At that time, CIA and other agencies searching for him. No one knows the hideout of OSAMA, but strangely DAILY UMMAT was publishing the statement of OSAMA BIN LADEN daily. When agencies were trying to find out the resources, they came to know, all the statement of OSAMA was a table stories. They warn DAILY UMMAT, from the next day, they stopped publishing the OSAMA fake statements. Why did they stop, if they were not publishing the fake statement?
News from JUNG, EXPRESS, DAWAN,The NEWS will be answered other wise Gutter press like DAILY UMMAT, JASARAT, TAKBEER,etc. won't.
sagaciouscorpion
MPA (400+ posts)
well.... you re no one to deide which newspapers are considered gutter press and which are not....
I consider Ummat and takbeer at the height of journalism.... as they have been challanging the lawless people since long..... even more authentic than jang and the news... jasarat while ... is the mouth piece of JI...so it is not so credible...
and please increasing the size of the font and changing the colors to red doesnt mean you can convince peolple and misguide them...
All gunda anasir ... including MQM , ANP and JI backed groups should be curbed... regardless of their ethnicities...
I consider Ummat and takbeer at the height of journalism.... as they have been challanging the lawless people since long..... even more authentic than jang and the news... jasarat while ... is the mouth piece of JI...so it is not so credible...
and please increasing the size of the font and changing the colors to red doesnt mean you can convince peolple and misguide them...
All gunda anasir ... including MQM , ANP and JI backed groups should be curbed... regardless of their ethnicities...
sagaciouscorpion said:
Why I consider UMMAT, JASARAT, TAKBEER gutter press, are the following reasons.
1) When editor Takbeer was murdered, like always JAMAATI mentality, UMMAT accused MQM. And for about hundreds of days. The daily publised in the news paper, how many days have gone but the murderer of editor TAKBEER, hasn't caught, yet. But the day, Late editor of Takbeer's daughter openly said, his father was killed by his husband. The gutter press DAILY UMMAT quite. Now body knows, what happened to invistigation. Even DAILY UMMAT has no intrest, because his scheme was failed because daughter of the SALAUDDIN.
2) After 9/11, The daily UMMAT, had been publishing the statement of OSAMA BIN LADEN. At that time, CIA and other agencies searching for him. No one knows the hideout of OSAMA, but strangely DAILY UMMAT was publishing the statement of OSAMA BIN LADEN daily. When agencies were trying to find out the resources, they came to know, all the statement of OSAMA was a table stories. They warn DAILY UMMAT, from the next day, they stopped publishing the OSAMA fake statements. Why did they stop, if they were not publishing the fake statement?
KHUDARAAAA! !!!!!
KARACHI KO IN MQM KAI QATILO SAI BACHAO.....
YEH BARAI MAKKAR LOG HAIN..........
USA ISRAEL INDIA K AGENT HAI................
PAKISTAN KAI AMAN KO DESTROY KARNA CAHTAIN HAI.............
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KHUDA K LIYEH AGAI BARO AUR IN TERRRERITS SAI PAK KO BACHAOOOOOOOOOOO
KARACHI KO IN MQM KAI QATILO SAI BACHAO.....
YEH BARAI MAKKAR LOG HAIN..........
USA ISRAEL INDIA K AGENT HAI................
PAKISTAN KAI AMAN KO DESTROY KARNA CAHTAIN HAI.............
PAKISTAN KAI HAQIQI DUSHMAN YEH HAI... [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf] [altaf]
KHUDA K LIYEH AGAI BARO AUR IN TERRRERITS SAI PAK KO BACHAOOOOOOOOOOO
isamilgul said:
Since MQM came in the political arena, all the blood suckers of Karachi, have been crying in the same manner. But, by the grace of God, MQM is getting stronger and stronger. If Jamaat-e-Islami, and those who were voted by the Karachiates before MQM, did good for Karachi, MQM wouldn't be here.
Zaidi Qasim
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Kala Shah Kakool is up to something again.Residing in London and spreading chaos in Karachi is his number one priority. The Top leadership of Karachi Police know it and they have rightly reported to the Government to consider taking some actions to avoid wide spread bloodshed in karachi. That have him worried.He is famous of acts like that in the past.Bafoon as he is, his acrobatic actions speak for themselves.Unless something is not done about him, Karachi will always stay where it is. Always under the Gunda Gurdi of Altaf and his Gang.
Jury, votes have been taken by MQM over the power of gun and thugs, over your 2 people who were killed by ANP you end killing hunderds of innocent, you people don't accept the merciless killing done by MQM because you are part of mafia yourself :evil: and stop posting old news u mindless freak, why is clifton and defence and kda officers do not get effected by these riots only reason because the politicians living their will shove up urs. what right do u have to stop making punjabis giving their opinion because your MQM is still MUHAJIR QUAMI MOVEMENT
sagaciouscorpion
MPA (400+ posts)
@jury
At least come out of "Waseem Akhtar mentality".... Shouting is not helping you here......
At least come out of "Waseem Akhtar mentality".... Shouting is not helping you here......
sagaciouscorpion
MPA (400+ posts)
@jury
Increasing the size of the font and all caps...is considered as shouting in blogosphere...
I dont have a guilty conscience Alhamdulillah... I believein politics based on principles... which is almost non-existant in Pakistan...
Increasing the size of the font and all caps...is considered as shouting in blogosphere...
I dont have a guilty conscience Alhamdulillah... I believein politics based on principles... which is almost non-existant in Pakistan...
sagaciouscorpion said:
Dear! People in the forum use SMILES or EMOTICONS, but I don't.
And, I have never objected on that. Because, I believe in that freedom, which I like for me.
So If you want to use big font, you're most welcome.
If you don't have guilty conscience then why you said to me that, I'm shouting. Believe me it was not me who was shouting, it was your conscience which you heard shouting.
sagaciouscorpion
MPA (400+ posts)
@jury
Well I thought you were shouting because of your font size.. taking about conscience ... I have some know how in psychology, from that I inferred that... a person uses larger font than the other when he knows he cant supercede other on the basis of argument... "ooper say anay" ka matlab samajhtay hongay aap!!(wasim aktar mentality)
And I cam telling you.. I dont have any bojh upon my conscience.. I believe in politics on principal and I am not a blind follower of any politicians...
Well I thought you were shouting because of your font size.. taking about conscience ... I have some know how in psychology, from that I inferred that... a person uses larger font than the other when he knows he cant supercede other on the basis of argument... "ooper say anay" ka matlab samajhtay hongay aap!!(wasim aktar mentality)
And I cam telling you.. I dont have any bojh upon my conscience.. I believe in politics on principal and I am not a blind follower of any politicians...
