Question to Umar Cheema who is still tweeting about "BENAMI" ( Admin plz del or merge )

[Zulfi Khan]

Umar Cheema is foolish guy; he was beaten and tortured last year for his these bad habits.
Now,he is acting foolishly and he has nothing to do with Imran Khan. He is just sold journalist.
Geo Pti! Geo Imran Khan! Vote for PTI inshallah! Umar Cheema Murdabad! Umar cheema and his
sponsors Murdabad!

 

[mr.pti]

I will break it down for you. Benami is when you purchase property or other assets in name of family members. The reason for doing this is to utilize black money which since is made through illegal means can not be made public or shown in tax returns. The big holla about benami which imo made was also the same. Now go through the following carefully:

1. Imo claims he had no money so his wife purchased the property, he got the money when he sold his flat in UK and paid Jamaima and transferred the plot in his name.
2. Jamaima claims in a legal document that Imo purchased the property not her, she further claims Imo made a benami transaction That is he purchased the property in her name.
3. Now all this is very obvious there is rocket science involved. One of them is lying.
4. Some other points are Imo does not challenge the authenticity of document. He says the lawyer wrote the term Benami by mistake but that does not answer why did his wife claimed he bought the property. Secondly legally all Imo says is meaningless in front of a legal document as interviews are not legally binding but legal documents are.
5. Legally this is no laughing matter in Pakistan you can make gift (a term for within family transfer) to only Blood relatives and wife is not a blood relative. Since gift has the lowest fee for transfer and it does not apply in this case Imo and Jamaima might have used this document as a way for saving money in shape of fee by claiming Imo purchased it. Or Imo did purchase it but did not declare the money as it was black.
6. If Imo or Jamaima claim through proper legal channel that document is mistranslated or misleading the transaction become null and void this also opens the door for questions like who actually purchased the property and how that person got the money.
7. Another important question why did the tax council of Imran denied giving answers?
8. This is not so simple as you people are claiming since there is an official legal position by Jamaima that Imo purchased property and made a benami transaction. some nuts are pasting Jamaima tweets which simply do not matter against a legal document.

You are right but Imran Khan says he can show money transfered from JK account to buy land and than Ik transfering money to JK after he bhought back from her. Does not this slove issue ?

 

[Sedqal]

You are right but Imran Khan says he can show money transfered from JK account to buy land and than Ik transfering money to JK after he bhought back from her. Does not this slove issue ?​

JK claims Imran himself bought the land from his money and in her name. That is her statement, did she lied deliberately in a legal document? This is a crime you know.

 

[abdullah.drs]

I will break it down for you. Benami is when you purchase property or other assets in name of family members. The reason for doing this is to utilize black money which since is made through illegal means can not be made public or shown in tax returns. The big holla about benami which imo made was also the same. Now go through the following carefully:

1. Imo claims he had no money so his wife purchased the property, he got the money when he sold his flat in UK and paid Jamaima and transferred the plot in his name.
2. Jamaima claims in a legal document that Imo purchased the property not her, she further claims Imo made a benami transaction That is he purchased the property in her name.
3. Now all this is very obvious there is rocket science involved. One of them is lying.
4. Some other points are Imo does not challenge the authenticity of document. He says the lawyer wrote the term Benami by mistake but that does not answer why did his wife claimed he bought the property. Secondly legally all Imo says is meaningless in front of a legal document as interviews are not legally binding but legal documents are.
5. Legally this is no laughing matter in Pakistan you can make gift (a term for within family transfer) to only Blood relatives and wife is not a blood relative. Since gift has the lowest fee for transfer and it does not apply in this case Imo and Jamaima might have used this document as a way for saving money in shape of fee by claiming Imo purchased it. Or Imo did purchase it but did not declare the money as it was black.
6. If Imo or Jamaima claim through proper legal channel that document is mistranslated or misleading the transaction become null and void this also opens the door for questions like who actually purchased the property and how that person got the money.
7. Another important question why did the tax council of Imran denied giving answers?
8. This is not so simple as you people are claiming since there is an official legal position by Jamaima that Imo purchased property and made a benami transaction. some nuts are pasting Jamaima tweets which simply do not matter against a legal document.

The initial purchase docments of the property is on jamaima's name with check paid coming out of Jamaima's bank account...If IK had transferred it on her name,the initial purchase should have IK name on it..So there isnt any rocket science involved here that Umar Cheema is trying his best to get the attention on a stupid story..
His story would only get a life if he can come out with the document where the property was first bought on IK's name..But records on the property are clear that it was Jamaima who had been the real owner from the strt...Got it??

 

[abdullah.drs]

JK claims Imran himself bought the land from his money and in her name. That is her statement, did she lied deliberately in a legal document? This is a crime you know.

Because probably Jamaima had never even seen that document and all those things were done by her trsted lawyer who had just sent the papers to get them signed..tel me how fair it is for these ppl to ask IK of a document of which he has no concern with...If they have any problem then ask Jamaima that why did she signed something that she didnt understnd the meaning of..

 

[Sedqal]

The initial purchase docments of the property is on jamaima's name with check paid coming out of Jamaima's bank account...If IK had transferred it on her name,the initial purchase should have IK name on it..So there isnt any rocket science involved here that Umar Cheema is trying his best to get the attention on a stupid story..
His story would only get a life if he can come out with the document where the property was first bought on IK's name..But records on the property are clear that it was Jamaima who had been the real owner from the strt...Got it??​

Spare me the attitude dude, I did not write a legal document blaming Imo of benami transaction or claiming Imo bought the property. His wife did all this. Why did his wife lie in a legal document? If you deliberately lie in a legal document it is a crime.

Also you are missing the point the document is claiming since imran bought the property in the first place it should be in his name since they are now divorced. Cheema in not stupid he realizes that Imran's wife is the one blaming him no one else. Why would you blame Cheema unless you can prove he is lying about the document? All Cheema did was bring forward the claims in the document made by Imran's wife. Do you want media to censor any news that are against PTI?

 

[Sedqal]

Because probably Jamaima had never even seen that document and all those things were done by her trsted lawyer who had just sent the papers to get them signed..tel me how fair it is for these ppl to ask IK of a document of which he has no concern with...If they have any problem then ask Jamaima that why did she signed something that she didnt understnd the meaning of..​

Why are you assuming Jamaima never saw the document? She signed a document, in the courts throughout the world this means that this document represents Jamaima point of view. Those people ask Imo since his wife is claiming he is lying. Like I already mentioned earlier both Imo and his wife can disown the document saying it is misleading but that will make the transfer of property null and void. Why is not Imo challenging the document? It is the right thing to do.

 

[raz30]

اتنی زیادہ وضاحت کرنے کے باوجود ڈھیٹ پن کی انتہاء ہے اس طرح کے لوگوں کا علاج ائی ایس ائی کے پاس ہے . :angry_smile:

:lol::lol::lol:

 

[InsafianPTI]

now your pea size brain, seems like we have to deal with it again.
In that document it never says IK paid for the money, yes he bought it with jamima's money which she had in her account (as he said it in Capital talk the other day), he said that they still have proofs of it and have asked umer cheema to see them if too willing to, and asked to to take IK in court if he needs to.
Now if they have proof of who's money it was and how it was purchased then what is the problem?
and also do you really think that pmln and ppp would have sat quitely if there was anything illegal in this while IK is defaming them day and night? infact humilitating them all the time for their corruption.
Even if you have a pea size brain then you will know the answer.

We know this umer cheema guy is just being used to harm IK's reputation, In pakistan journalists normally get away with it,
I think Pti should let him do enough propaganda and then when pti has enough proof then drag him in court!
This will surve him better.

I will break it down for you. Benami is when you purchase property or other assets in name of family members. The reason for doing this is to utilize black money which since is made through illegal means can not be made public or shown in tax returns. The big holla about benami which imo made was also the same. Now go through the following carefully:

1. Imo claims he had no money so his wife purchased the property, he got the money when he sold his flat in UK and paid Jamaima and transferred the plot in his name.
2. Jamaima claims in a legal document that Imo purchased the property not her, she further claims Imo made a benami transaction That is he purchased the property in her name.
3. Now all this is very obvious there is rocket science involved. One of them is lying.
4. Some other points are Imo does not challenge the authenticity of document. He says the lawyer wrote the term Benami by mistake but that does not answer why did his wife claimed he bought the property. Secondly legally all Imo says is meaningless in front of a legal document as interviews are not legally binding but legal documents are.
5. Legally this is no laughing matter in Pakistan you can make gift (a term for within family transfer) to only Blood relatives and wife is not a blood relative. Since gift has the lowest fee for transfer and it does not apply in this case Imo and Jamaima might have used this document as a way for saving money in shape of fee by claiming Imo purchased it. Or Imo did purchase it but did not declare the money as it was black.
6. If Imo or Jamaima claim through proper legal channel that document is mistranslated or misleading the transaction become null and void this also opens the door for questions like who actually purchased the property and how that person got the money.
7. Another important question why did the tax council of Imran denied giving answers?
8. This is not so simple as you people are claiming since there is an official legal position by Jamaima that Imo purchased property and made a benami transaction. some nuts are pasting Jamaima tweets which simply do not matter against a legal document.

 

[InsafianPTI]

IN THAT DOCUMENT it never says IT was IK's money!

Where does it say that??
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It only says IK bought it, but never tells who's money it is.
For that one must see the documents of payment, which are of jamima's account!

JK claims Imran himself bought the land from his money and in her name. That is her statement, did she lied deliberately in a legal document? This is a crime you know.

 

[Nice2MU]

1) Very Strange thing that an English Woman used the word "Benami" in an English Text Strange!?

2) And if she would know the meaning of Benami, why would she or her lawyer use it in an Affidavit for court? How can she declare an illegal act (Benami) in a court document.

 

[Zoaib]

Please don't give Umer Cheema more importance than he is already getting by this "Benami" story. Leave him be, it is seriously not worth it. Personally, I find him quite immature and his story lacked professionalism. His attempt to OVER-justify this is making him look worse.

 

[mr.pti]

JK claims Imran himself bought the land from his money and in her name. That is her statement, did she lied deliberately in a legal document? This is a crime you know.

so he payed twice ? and why he payed taxes twice ? What he ganined from doing that ??

 

[Sedqal]

now your pea size brain, seems like we have to deal with it again.
In that document it never says IK paid for the money, yes he bought it with jamima's money which she had in her account (as he said it in Capital talk the other day), he said that they still have proofs of it and have asked umer cheema to see them if too willing to, and asked to to take IK in court if he needs to.
Now if they have proof of who's money it was and how it was purchased then what is the problem?
and also do you really think that pmln and ppp would have sat quitely if there was anything illegal in this while IK is defaming them day and night? infact humilitating them all the time for their corruption.
Even if you have a pea size brain then you will know the answer.

We know this umer cheema guy is just being used to harm ​

IK's reputation, In pakistan journalists normally get away with it,
I think Pti should let him do enough propaganda and then when pti has enough proof then drag him in court!
This will surve him better.

This is a mish mash but I'll try to answer it all. Firstly lay low with things like pea brain, I am not insulting you directly and I rather keep it that way.

Secondly here is the document in question, please go through it:

1. Para 2 (lines 1 - 3) Jamaima claims Imo bought the property. ​

2. Para 3 (lines 1 - 4) Jamaima claims after purchase of property Imo transferred the property in her name in a benami transaction . Now since they are divorced it is implied that since Imo bought the property in first place it should remian with Imo [Most Important: Jamaima calls the transaction Benami since she did not buy it]
3. Para 5, 6 and 7 Jamaima authorizes a man on her behalf with very clear instructions.
4. At the end you said if it was real then PPP and PMLN will do something. Going by this same logic PMLN says if there was any dirty dealing Musharraf would have found it, and Zardari also claims that if there was anything wrong or dirty ex-governments would have found it. Question is when you are so fast to accept Imo's justification then why don't you accept the same justification from others?

My original question remains the same. Why is PTI abusing Cheema when all he did was bring forward a legal document made by Jamaima? He did not make the document he did not sign it, he never accused Imo himself he just presented the document.

 

[Sedqal]

If by any weird chance Mr. Cheema is reading this thread, I want to acknowledge his efforts and commitment to his profession. Ignore the empty threats and vulgarity of PTI goons Mr. Cheema as a large majority of this county appreciates your work and thinks highly of you. You have proven yourself against the tyranny before and came out a victor. Please keep on exposing the corrupt where ever they may exist. Thank you very much for a job well done. (bigsmile)

 

[mr.pti]

If by any weird chance Mr. Cheema is reading this thread, I want to acknowledge his efforts and commitment to his profession. Ignore the empty threats and vulgarity of PTI goons Mr. Cheema as a large majority of this county appreciates your work and thinks highly of you. You have proven yourself against the tyranny before and came out a victor. Please keep on exposing the corrupt where ever they may exist. Thank you very much for a job well done. (bigsmile)

lol either u are chamo ur self ur one of his friends hahaha

 

[Zulfi Khan]

[MENTION=27148]Sedqal[/MENTION], brother, what do you want from Imran Khan or Jamima Khan? When this deal was done;
Jamima Khan was the wife of Imran Khan.If Jamima Khan paid money on behalf of Imran Khan,what
is the problem? Are you judge that you can pass any order and we will accept.It shows very clearly that
you are slave to your masters; you want to please them by means or unfair means.Do you want to become
Umar Cheema at this site?

I trust and follow Imran Khan woth all his faults; your babbling will leave no effect upon me.I have no respect
for person like you.Go on your propaganda against Imran Khan and Inshallah! he will be victorious.Geo Imran Khan!

 

[abdullah.drs]

Spare me the attitude dude, I did not write a legal document blaming Imo of benami transaction or claiming Imo bought the property. His wife did all this. Why did his wife lie in a legal document? If you deliberately lie in a legal document it is a crime.

Also you are missing the point the document is claiming since imran bought the property in the first place it should be in his name since they are now divorced. Cheema in not stupid he realizes that Imran's wife is the one blaming him no one else. Why would you blame Cheema unless you can prove he is lying about the document? All Cheema did was bring forward the claims in the document made by Imran's wife. Do you want media to censor any news that are against PTI?

Bro but u r missing the bigger point here which i have already mentioned that the record is showing that the first ever person to own this place was Jamaima and not IK with the payment coming from a bank account of Jamaima..It means there had been no Tax Evasion,no Benami whatsoever...All this story remains is that a document having wrong details and that too having nothing illegal is signed by jamaima...Umar Cheema should reveal something that can tell about corruption of ppl and not abt stupid mistakes in affidavits..

 

[luqmankhan]

Great! so Umar Cheema came to the conclusion that Imran Khan lives in a home that was paid for by selling IK's condo in UK! Imran khan used his OWN money to pay for his home after a very 'clean' divorce... damn! that's some news!

Good for you Umar/Sedqal that you got it .... it would be a shocker for you and very hard to digest that IK actually paid for his residence... given that your leaders bought houses with people's blood money.

This is a mish mash but I'll try to answer it all. Firstly lay low with things like pea brain, I am not insulting you directly and I rather keep it that way.

Secondly here is the document in question, please go through it:

1. Para 2 (lines 1 - 3) Jamaima claims Imo bought the property. ​

2. Para 3 (lines 1 - 4) Jamaima claims after purchase of property Imo transferred the property in her name in a benami transaction . Now since they are divorced it is implied that since Imo bought the property in first place it should remian with Imo [Most Important: Jamaima calls the transaction Benami since she did not buy it]
3. Para 5, 6 and 7 Jamaima authorizes a man on her behalf with very clear instructions.
4. At the end you said if it was real then PPP and PMLN will do something. Going by this same logic PMLN says if there was any dirty dealing Musharraf would have found it, and Zardari also claims that if there was anything wrong or dirty ex-governments would have found it. Question is when you are so fast to accept Imo's justification then why don't you accept the same justification from others?

My original question remains the same. Why is PTI abusing Cheema when all he did was bring forward a legal document made by Jamaima? He did not make the document he did not sign it, he never accused Imo himself he just presented the document.

 

[GreenMaple]

I will break it down for you. Benami is when you purchase property or other assets in name of family members. The reason for doing this is to utilize black money which since is made through illegal means can not be made public or shown in tax returns. The big holla about benami which imo made was also the same. Now go through the following carefully:

1. Imo claims he had no money so his wife purchased the property, he got the money when he sold his flat in UK and paid Jamaima and transferred the plot in his name.
2. Jamaima claims in a legal document that Imo purchased the property not her, she further claims Imo made a benami transaction That is he purchased the property in her name.
3. Now all this is very obvious there is rocket science involved. One of them is lying.
4. Some other points are Imo does not challenge the authenticity of document. He says the lawyer wrote the term Benami by mistake but that does not answer why did his wife claimed he bought the property. Secondly legally all Imo says is meaningless in front of a legal document as interviews are not legally binding but legal documents are.
5. Legally this is no laughing matter in Pakistan you can make gift (a term for within family transfer) to only Blood relatives and wife is not a blood relative. Since gift has the lowest fee for transfer and it does not apply in this case Imo and Jamaima might have used this document as a way for saving money in shape of fee by claiming Imo purchased it. Or Imo did purchase it but did not declare the money as it was black.
6. If Imo or Jamaima claim through proper legal channel that document is mistranslated or misleading the transaction become null and void this also opens the door for questions like who actually purchased the property and how that person got the money.
7. Another important question why did the tax council of Imran denied giving answers?
8. This is not so simple as you people are claiming since there is an official legal position by Jamaima that Imo purchased property and made a benami transaction. some nuts are pasting Jamaima tweets which simply do not matter against a legal document.

If I bought my wife (or anyone else for that matter) a property with her money and in her name. So according to your rules, will that be considered a 'be-nami'?