Quran ka Hajj

[FORCE]

 

[taban]

یا تو یہ وڈیو والا مسلمان نہیں ہے یا پھر اس پاگل کے بچے کی اللہ نے مت مار دی ہے میں نے پہلی ہی آیت کی ایکسپلینیشن سن کر اس پر لعنت بھیج دی ہے یہ کہہ رہا ہے کہ اگر کوئی بال صیح طریقے سے نہ منڈوائے یا صفہ مروہ کے درمیان ٹھیک طرح سے نہ دوڑے تو کیا اللہ اسے عذاب دے گا اس کی یہ ہی بات عذاب الہی کو دعوت دینے والی ہے اس آئیت میں اللہ کے حکم کو نہ ماننے پر اللہ کے عذاب کی بات ہے جو بالکل صاف صاف ہے مگر یہ اسے توڑ مڑوڑ کر اپنی مرضی کا مطلب نکال رہا ہے اس کی وڈیو انتہائی لغو اور گمراہ کر دینے والی ہے وماعلینا الی البلاغ

 

[atensari]

یا تو یہ وڈیو والا مسلمان نہیں ہے یا پھر اس پاگل کے بچے کی اللہ نے مت مار دی ہے میں نے پہلی ہی آیت کی ایکسپلینیشن سن کر اس پر لعنت بھیج دی ہے یہ کہہ رہا ہے کہ اگر کوئی بال صیح طریقے سے نہ منڈوائے یا صفہ مروہ کے درمیان ٹھیک طرح سے نہ دوڑے تو کیا اللہ اسے عذاب دے گا اس کی یہ ہی بات عذاب الہی کو دعوت دینے والی ہے اس آئیت میں اللہ کے حکم کو نہ ماننے پر اللہ کے عذاب کی بات ہے جو بالکل صاف صاف ہے مگر یہ اسے توڑ مڑوڑ کر اپنی مرضی کا مطلب نکال رہا ہے اس کی وڈیو انتہائی لغو اور گمراہ کر دینے والی ہے وماعلینا الی البلاغ

خود سے قرآن سمجھنے کا دعوی کرنے والوں کے دماغ کا فتور ہے کے وہ خود سے قرآن سمجھتے ہیں حالانکہ فتنہ انکار حدیث قرآن مجید کھولنے سے پہلے ہی ان کے ذہن ہوتا ہے. اپنے اس فتور کو ثابت کرنے کے لئے وہ من معنی تعبیر کرتے جاتے ہیں اور دوسروں کو سمجھاتے ہیں یہ قرآن کی تعبیر ہے​

 

[Wake up Pak]

I watched it in bits and parts, and thus far, this man makes a lot of sense.

 

[taban]

خود سے قرآن سمجھنے کا دعوی کرنے والوں کے دماغ کا فتور ہے کے وہ خود سے قرآن سمجھتے ہیں حالانکہ فتنہ انکار حدیث قرآن مجید کھولنے سے پہلے ہی ان کے ذہن ہوتا ہے. اپنے اس فتور کو ثابت کرنے کے لئے وہ من معنی تعبیر کرتے جاتے ہیں اور دوسروں کو سمجھاتے ہیں یہ قرآن کی تعبیر ہے​

اگر بندہ صدق دل سے کو شش کرے قرآن کو خود ہی سمجھنے کی تو اللہ اس کے لئے راہیں کھول دیتا ہے قرآن کے مطلب بھی سمجھ آتے ہیں اور رہنما بھی مل جاتا ہے لیکن اگر نیت ہی فتنہ پھلانے کی ہو لوگوں کو گمراہ کرنے کی تو پھر اللہ اس کی مت مار دیتا ہے جیسے کہ اس وڈیو والے بندے کی یہ اول فول بک رہا ہے اللہ سب مسلمانوں کو اس جیسے طاغوت سے بچائے جو لوگوں کو روشنی سے کھینچ کراندھیرے میں لے جانے والے ہیں ورآیمان کے ساتھ اس دنیا سے اٹھائے آمین

 

[taban]

I watched it in bits and parts, and thus far, this man makes a lot of sense.

Good for You.

 

[Wake up Pak]

The ignorant and blind followers won't comprehend
The verse about Hajj is meant to invite mankind, not only Muslims or Momineen.
Therefore the Hajj is a gathering to discuss/debate issues and concerns of humanity.
Nowhere in the Quran does Allah command circling the Kaaba seven times, running between the two stone hills seven times, hitting three stone structures with stones, or putting on the Ahram exposing the shoulder. What will an individual or humanity achieve by all of this?

 

[Citizen X]

I watched it in bits and parts, and thus far, this man makes a lot of sense.

TBH I'm not 100% sold on a lotta of his translations and meanings. You've lived amongs arabs too, right. Never have I heard in 45 years of my life the word Ashara (10) being used for anything else other than 10. Muashara as in society/cohabitation etc etc is really not related to the word Ashara even though they sound similar. Small things like that here and there.

Similarly he made a translation in another video which wasn't sitting well with me, I even had a talk with him about it, but he insisted that what he was saying is right.

Anyways I think he has the basics right but he's trying too hard in some places for the narrative to fit,

 

[Arrest Warrant]

I watched it in bits and parts, and thus far, this man makes a lot of sense.

Non sense is also a kind of a sense.

Edit: farz ker letey hain, Kaheen agaey aur peechay jaaney ki zaroorat bhi naheen,
75 yrs to aap ko wohi idara " aka institution" choona lagata raha jahan aap ne tax dala.
Ab yeh soch lein kahan aap ne apni marzi ka chandaa diya?

 

[Wake up Pak]

TBH I'm not 100% sold on a lotta of his translations and meanings. You've lived amongs arabs too, right. Never have I heard in 45 years of my life the word Ashara (10) being used for anything else other than 10. Muashara as in society/cohabitation etc etc is really not related to the word Ashara even though they sound similar. Small things like that here and there.

Similarly he made a translation in another video which wasn't sitting well with me, I even had a talk with him about it, but he insisted that what he was saying is right.

Anyways I think he has the basics right but he's trying too hard in some places for the narrative to fit,

This is the second video I've watched. I believe there was another video of him on this forum.
I don't entirely agree with his translation of the verses/words, but he is attempting to provide a different perspective than the traditionalists' translations.
I lived in Kuwait until I was 17 or 18, so I know very little Arabic. Yes, Ashra means ten, and I'm not sure how he came up with a different meaning.
I am always open to hearing new viewpoints, but it does not mean I completely agree with them.

 

[Arrest Warrant]

but he insisted that what he was saying is right.

 

[Wake up Pak]

TBH I'm not 100% sold on a lotta of his translations and meanings. You've lived amongs arabs too, right. Never have I heard in 45 years of my life the word Ashara (10) being used for anything else other than 10. Muashara as in society/cohabitation etc etc is really not related to the word Ashara even though they sound similar. Small things like that here and there.

Similarly he made a translation in another video which wasn't sitting well with me, I even had a talk with him about it, but he insisted that what he was saying is right.

Anyways I think he has the basics right but he's trying too hard in some places for the narrative to fit,

Additionally, I've read a few Quranic verses that appear to support the idea that the Prophet Mohammad resided in the vicinity of the Prophet Lut.
If you like, I'll quote those Quranic verses, but I know it could hurt the sentiments of some people.

 

[Arrest Warrant]

Additionally, I've read a few Quranic verses that appear to support the idea that the Prophet Mohammad resided in the vicinity of the Prophet Lut.
If you like, I'll quote those Quranic verses, but I know it could hurt the sentiments of some people.

your people.

 

[Wake up Pak]

your people.

What? Don't be so naive

 

[Arrest Warrant]

What? Don't be so naive

what! what?

 

[Citizen X]

This is the second video I've watched. I believe there was another video of him on this forum.

Ive watched a few videos of him. Some make a lotta sense and some have a few hiccups along way and don't go down as easy, not because of the challenge to traditionalism but what he is trying to propose based on his translations

 

[Wake up Pak]

Ive watched a few videos of him. Some make a lotta sense and some have a few hiccups along way and don't go down as easy, not because of the challenge to traditionalism but what he is trying to propose based on his translations

Everyone is free to interpret the Quran according to their understanding and ability, but it is up to the reader to accept, partially accept, or reject it.
I will try to watch his videos. Can you recommend any of his videos?

 

[Arrest Warrant]

Everyone is free to interpret the Quran according to their understanding and ability, but it is up to the reader to accept, partially accept, or reject it.
I will try to watch his videos. Can you recommend any of his videos?

i see you both are geting togethar after all
that makes me, glucklich

 

[Citizen X]

Everyone is free to interpret the Quran according to their understanding and ability, but it is up to the reader to accept, partially accept, or reject it.
I will try to watch his videos. Can you recommend any of his videos?

I dare not post some of others because I am afraid some people here might have a heart attack if they saw them. Click go to youtube on the bottom left, click his channel and go through the list

 

[Citizen X]

i see you both are geting togethar after all
that makes me, glucklich

Good for you.