QYADAT KA FUQDAN

[Typhoon]

Sirf construction karne se agar qoumo ki zindagi or taqdeer badalti hoti to pharaos, Babylon jesi tehzeebe tabah o barbad na hoti. Kuch satehi zehn rakhne wale nadaan log samajhte he ke karachi me agar chand pul ban gae or sarhke ban gai to ye mazhar he MQM ke sache mohib-e-watan hone ka.
MQM bhi usi lab ki pedaish he jis lab ki pediash PPP, nawaz league, ANP or JUI he.
Pakistan ko agar koi bacha sakta he to wo he, syasi bedari, gheratmand qyadat jo na to mulk se bahir beth kar non-Pakistani nationality le kar waha se syasat kar rahi ho, or na hi mulk ke andar beth kar american, british or dosre darje ke diplomates se dictations le rahi ho.
Hume party bazi se nikal kar sache dil se sochna ho ga ke hume kesi qyadat chahye. Agar hum rang, nasal, ilaqayat or zuban ke hisaar se nikal kar national interests ko samne rakh kar syasat nahi kare ge to ek bheek mangi qoum ban jae ge, jo hum ban chuke he.
Pakistan ki har syasi party ka leader na ehel he, chahe wo tehreek-e-insaf ho ya MQM. Mullahs ho ya socalled lefties.
Hume Pakistan Ultra Nationalist Party chahye, is ke siwa kuch nahi. Jo bhi zuban or ilaqe ko bunyad bana kar apna vote bank bana raha he wo is mulk ka sagga nahi. Jo bhi nazrya-e-Pakistan ko past-e-push rakh kar bolta he wo ghaddar-e-ummat he.
Pakistan me sab jante hein keh ye socalled taliban jo na pakhtoon he or na hi urdu bolte or jante he, jo tarjuman istemal karte he, jo tajik or uzbek hein, wo log Bunair or Deer ke ilaqo me inteshar phela rahe he mulk dushmano ke isharo pe, or Altaf saab mulk se bahir betha Karachi ke logo ko paranoid kar raha he talibanization ka raag alap kar. Kis ke kehne pe ye raag alap raha he or iss se kya gul khilana cahata he? Is ka jawab hume MQM ke purane kartoot samne rakhte hoe ba asani mil jae ga. Guzre hoe halaat aina hote he kirdar ka.
Karachi me land mafia, drug mafia, aghwa barae tawan, daketi, target killing, syasi dehshat gardi, rahzani, rapes, rishwat khori, syasi shutterdown harhtale, jalao gherao ki batein or jitni bhi insecurity he is sheher me, wo chand pul or sarkhe bana kar hal nahi hoti. Agar koi sirf pul or sarhko ko bunyad bana kar sache or jhoote ka faisla karta he to us se zyada bewaqoof or andha shakhs koi nahi ho sakta. Ya to wo wusat-e-soch se mehroom he ya phir ek on duty propagandist he jiska kam mukhtlif nett sites pe MQM kelye PR karna he.
Pakistan ki ek ek syasai party na ehel he saltanat-e-Pakistan ko lead karne ke mamle me. Mullahs bagher kisi syasi shaor ke or bagher kisi qurani shaor ke apna raag alap rahe he. Media me foreign assets kam kar rahe he. Anchors had darja bewaqoof he, akhbarat dhamkio or paise ki bunyad pe sahafat kar rahe hein.
Hume ub apni taqdeer apne haath me leni ho gi. In dinosaurs se jan churhani ho gi. Ek nai subah kelye ek nai awaz lagani ho gi, ke subah hoti nahi jab tak soraj khooni asmaan me doob na jae.

Ye seher jo kabhi fardaa he kabhi he amroz
nahi malom ke hoti he kaha se paida
wo seher jis se larazta he shabistane wujood
hoti he banda-e-momin ki azaan se paida

Hazaaro saal nargis apni be-noori pe roti he
Barhi mushkil se hota he chaman me deeda`war paida
nawa pera ho e bulbul ke ho tere taranum se
Kabotar ke tan-e-nazuk me SHAHEEN KA JIGAR PAIDA

OQAABI shan se jhapte the jo be baal`o parr nikle
sitare shaam ke khoon`e shafaq me DOOB kar nikle
hoe madfoon`e daryaa, zer`e daryaa tairne wale
tamanche mouj ke khate the jo, BAN KAR GOHAR NIKLE

 

[PakPatriot1]

Sub burey hein, koi ahal nahi hai Pakistan mein, tou kya aap ahal hein, hakumat aap ko de dein?

Drawingroom mein beth ker ilzamaat lagana or batein banana bohot asaan hai, ground realities kuch or hoti hein. Mana ke sub kharab siasatdan hein, solution dein ke hum kya karen, kahan se laien ahal siasatdan. Give us real practical solution to replace the corrupt political system prior to blame it.

 

[Jury]

Sirf construction karne se agar qoumo ki zindagi or taqdeer badalti hoti to pharaos, Babylon jesi tehzeebe tabah o barbad na hoti. Kuch satehi zehn rakhne wale nadaan log samajhte he ke karachi me agar chand pul ban gae or sarhke ban gai to ye mazhar he MQM ke sache mohib-e-watan hone ka.
MQM bhi usi gand ki pedaish he jis gand ki pediash PPP, nawaz league, ANP or JUI he.
Pakistan ko agar koi bacha sakta he to wo he, syasi bedari, gheratmand qyadat jo na to mulk se bahir beth kar non-Pakistani nationality le kar waha se syasat kar rahi ho, or na hi mulk ke andar beth kar american, british or dosre darje ke diplomates se dictations le rahi ho.
Hume party bazi se nikal kar sache dil se sochna ho ga ke hume kesi qyadat chahye. Agar hum rang, nasal, ilaqayat or zuban ke hisaar se nikal kar national interests ko samne rakh kar syasat nahi kare ge to ek bheek mangi qoum ban jae ge, jo hum ban chuke he.
Pakistan ki har syasi party ka leader na ehel he, chahe wo tehreek-e-insaf ho ya MQM. Mullahs ho ya socalled lefties.
Hume Pakistan Ultra Nationalist Party chahye, is ke siwa kuch nahi. Jo bhi zuban or ilaqe ko bunyad bana kar apna vote bank bana raha he wo is mulk ka sagga nahi. Jo bhi nazrya-e-Pakistan ko past-e-push rakh kar bolta he wo ghaddar-e-ummat he.
Pakistan me sab jante hein keh ye socalled taliban jo na pakhtoon he or na hi urdu bolte or jante he, jo tarjuman istemal karte he, jo tajik or uzbek hein, wo log Bunair or Deer ke ilaqo me inteshar phela rahe he mulk dushmano ke isharo pe, or Altaf saab mulk se bahir betha Karachi ke logo ko paranoid kar raha he talibanization ka raag alap kar. Kis ke kehne pe ye raag alap raha he or iss se kya gul khilana cahata he? Is ka jawab hume MQM ke purane kartoot samne rakhte hoe ba asani mil jae ga. Guzre hoe halaat aina hote he kirdar ka.
Karachi me land mafia, drug mafia, aghwa barae tawan, daketi, target killing, syasi dehshat gardi, rahzani, rapes, rishwat khori or jitni bhi insecurity he is sheher me, wo chand pul or sarkhe bana kar hal nahi hoti. Agar koi sirf pul or sarhko ko bunyad bana kar sache or jhoote ka faisla karta he to us se zyada bewaqoof or andha shakhs koi nahi ho sakta. Ya to wo wusat-e-soch se mehroom he ya phir ek on duty propagandist he jiska kam mukhtlif nett sites pe MQM kelye PR karna he.
Pakistan ki ek ek syasai party na ehel he saltanat-e-Pakistan ko lead karne ke mamle me. Mullahs bagher kisi syasi shaor ke or bagher kisi qurani shaor ke apna raag alap rahe he. Media me foreign assets kam kar rahe he. Anchors had darja bewaqoof he, akhbarat dhamkio or paise ki bunyad pe sahafat kar rahe hein.
Hume ub apni taqdeer apne haath me leni ho gi. In dinosaurs se jan churhani ho gi. Ek nai subah kelye ek nai awaz lagani ho gi, ke subah hoti nahi jab tak soraj khooni asmaan me doob na jae.

Only God is immortal, so it doesn't mean, no one can do anything for the betterment of humanity. If your thinking is right then the invention of BULB is nothing but a waist of time and so are other things. So don't use NET from now on and other thing, because, it will not save you and us. One who is responsible for what, only he can answerable for that. Syed Mustafa Kamal is Nazim of Karachi, not the CM or PM.

You yourself a shallow minded, and you're accusing those who believe in life making little bit easier for a common man by making roads, flyovers, under bypasses. Govt needs money to run the govt. And to earn money city need good infrastructure. Karachi not only earns for itself but also earn for the whole country. It has been given 68% of the total country's revenue for ages. But, only in five years time, developments are being done. And that is very painful for some people.

Insecurity is through out the Pakistan not just Karachi. What do you think about security of the rest of the Pakistan?
Taliban is not just A RAAG of MQM. Who is doing suicidal attacks in Pakistan? Just because of hatred of MQM, you're saying it is RAAG. Why Sind has imported IG from the other parts of Pakistan? Is in the history of Pakistan, Punjab & NWFP, experienced imported IG from Sind?

You are crying for BEDARI. It will not happen untill the discrimination stop. You people still dreaming about MQM elimination from the political scene. MQM is surviving, only by virtue of people's love. Otherwise, every thing has been used against MQM, but, they are still here, and flourshing day by day.

In this world city must have good roads. 4 years ago Karachi looked like KHUNDAR. Now it is the same Karachi which looks a international city. Yes problem is there, but, it doesn't mean, that, we stop do good things for the humanity to facilitate them.

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[Zaidi Qasim]

Where have you imported the money to developed the roads and the streets in Karachi ? You think Altaf gave you the funds from London ? I know the money is flowing out of Karachi to London but I never saw he sending it back to Pakistan. So, The roads and the developments you are talking about is the money coming from the treasury of Pakistan and from the people of Pakistan, not from the MQM himayat Fund. No one wants this development to stop, even during Namat_ullah time, the Development started and the work was being done.So, don't beat the drums of the current constructions and post a badge on MQM coller yet. The sind Police officers briefed the Government on recent voilence in Karachi and warned them to curb the MQM to stop this santanic game they are playing with the lives of Pakistani's.Now that suggestion have your boss flipping upside down and sideways. He doesn't want any breakers to be removed, any gates to be opened. He is building walls within the city and he wants to build enclaves and segregate the people of different languages and shut the doors on certain communities within the city.This is his evil play and he is paying it with the powers behind him.Don't be too foolish in his love he doesn't spare anyone including his wife.

 

[PakPatriot1]

Mr. Zaidi
You are accepting that the construction is going in the city and you are also admitting this development work is being done by MQM. So, what is the problem then? If there is no work then you can argue.
On the other hand if the (as you admitted) work is being done then the city's money is being used in the city. Don't be bothered it is not going anywhere.
If Naimut Ullah has done any development then we accept it open heartedly, because we are not kum zurf people. But how about another Jamati Mayor, Mr. Afghani. He just ran KMC as an employment agency for Jamati workers, (the ramnants are still there) and Mr. Afghani brought Afghan Dehshat Gards and land Mafia, drug Mafia, and asleha to Karachi and handed over Sohrab Goth to these thugs, now the whole nation paying the penalty for the wrong doings of Mr.Afghani's era. On that time, you jamati people were on win-win position from everywhere. You were looting Karachi, pushing it into the hell by bringing Afghans here and on the other side recieving american dollars from america in the name of Afghan War. You already have enjoyed from both worlds. Chut ti nahi hai zalim mun ko lagi hoi. Now all the sources of income have been stoped then obviously you have to cry at your full, you can not do anything else.
Rozgaar per laat pare gi tou cheekh tou nikley gi hi. Isi liye itna chillatey ho. I can understand your problem.

On the other hand what MQM's Nazim doing, he is opening the tenders of all the construction work in front of every participant. This is strange that 80% of the construction work in Karachi is being given to Pushtoon thekedaars. These thekeddars are giving all the labour work to their community. No one from MQM or from the City Nazim has to asked them to give the jobs to MQM. THIS IS ON RECORD, GO AND CHECK CITY GOVT. AUDIT REPORT OF EVERYYEAR, YOU WILL FIND THE FACTS. These Pushtoons are doing their business with the city govt. freely without any blackmailing and pressure.

BTW, I am not writing it for you Mr. Zaidi as I can not take all the venum out from your inside.
This is for other Pakistanis , who are not aware of the real situation of Karachi. I want to save them to be mis-guided from people like you who always spread hate, hate and hate but nothing.

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

Well Done Mr. Patriot, You made me jamati.you know that party has gone to your nerve centre so deep, you can't forget dragging them in to any discussions. I am not here to defend them, They are well capable of defending themselves from the cheap shots like yours.
You think your Mr. Know it all has a dream about these afghans decades ago, and now this dream has been turning true ? So, you get them all in a row and either kill them, burn their shops or cut up their body parts. Only because your cheif has a dream about them.
He is a visionary,a true patriot with Birtish passport.

 

[PakPatriot1]

I did not make you Jamati, this was you who reffered Mr. Naimat Ullah in your last post, so I thought you are Jamati. Anyways who cares who you are but for sure you are not an MQMie Allhamdullillah, happy?. So why not I suppose you are a Jamati or whatever, every lutera in Pakistan is our Dushman, so I give damn to all these Toms, Dicks and Harrys.

 

[Typhoon]

Pakpatriot ask about solutions. Seems you are a pragmatic person. Nice!
Well, lets start a movement. We can start with arranging All Pakistan youth conference, and our agenda will be new alternative system to this country.
Lekin......ek shart hogi......jo bhi is conference me sharkat kelie ae ga, wo apni "party" ko ghar rakh kar ae ga.
No one should represent any existing party or any existing mazhabi maslak there. We will start with clean board. Such grand arrangement will send out a strong message to the world and to the pakistani nation. WE ARE ALIVE, and have potential to ARISE again.
Are you with me?

 

[Jury]

Where have you imported the money to developed the roads and the streets in Karachi ? You think Altaf gave you the funds from London ? I know the money is flowing out of Karachi to London but I never saw he sending it back to Pakistan. So, The roads and the developments you are talking about is the money coming from the treasury of Pakistan and from the people of Pakistan, not from the MQM himayat Fund. No one wants this development to stop, even during Namat_ullah time, the Development started and the work was being done.So, don't beat the drums of the current constructions and post a badge on MQM coller yet. The sind Police officers briefed the Government on recent voilence in Karachi and warned them to curb the MQM to stop this santanic game they are playing with the lives of Pakistani's.Now that suggestion have your boss flipping upside down and sideways. He doesn't want any breakers to be removed, any gates to be opened. He is building walls within the city and he wants to build enclaves and segregate the people of different languages and shut the doors on certain communities within the city.This is his evil play and he is paying it with the powers behind him.Don't be too foolish in his love he doesn't spare anyone including his wife.

Karachi gives 68% of the economic revnue. So, it is very easy to understand, 68% of treasury fill with Karachi's revenue.

Yes, development started in the NAIMAT ULLAH era. But, if NAMAT ULLAH era was such a successful era, why the KARACHI peple, voted for MQM rather than JAMAAT-e-ISLAMI. In 2002 MQM didn't take the part in the local bodies election, because at that time, constitution was seized by Musharraf. But Jamaat-e-Islami and others took part, who on 3rd November, 2007 was crying on emergency. What a Hippocrates? And world record, two time PCO oath holder, and current CJ Chudhry Iftikhar legitimized that act of MUSHARRAF.

Gates are not the walls of CHINA. It is just a barrier. It is only to stop TOM, DICK and Harry. Every security agency is allowed to go but after showing identity. Just like, in Pakistan lot of people have guards, but, no one is freely go unless identified himself.

 

[PakPatriot1]

Pakpatriot ask about solutions. Seems you are a pragmatic person. Nice!
Well, lets start a movement. We can start with arranging All Pakistan youth conference, and our agenda will be new alternative system to this country.
Lekin......ek shart hogi......jo bhi is conference me sharkat kelie ae ga, wo apni "party" ko ghar rakh kar ae ga.
No one should represent any existing party or any existing mazhabi maslak there. We will start with clean board. Such grand arrangement will send out a strong message to the world and to the pakistani nation. WE ARE ALIVE, and have potential to ARISE again.
Are you with me?

Go ahead brother, I am with you. I always believe that "zara num ho tou yeh mitti bari zerkhaiz hai saaqi", this rotten political system will never give us the "numi" to flourish, we have to do our own arrangements. You said leave our own parties home and come forward for a noble cause of saving our motherland. I also want to add that leave all your taassubat at home, doesn't matter who you are, what language you speak, whether your forefathers came to this land 60 years back or 1000 years back. The demand of the time is to face the reality, and the reality is that Pakistan hai tou hum sub hein, Pakistan nahi hai tou kuch bhi nahi hai. So many monsters are all around us, if we become more weaker than they will never miss a chance to eliminate us from the face of the earth.
Our politicians are still in blame games. I don't know whether they are foriegn agents or what are their agendas, I just know for sure they do not have any capability to take this nation to a better place. They are all involved in petty issues. They have lack of vision. Actually they are not trained for fair politics. Most of them have become politician co-incidentally.

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

Actually they are not trained for fair politics. Most of them have become politician co-incidentally.

May I ask you if that also includes Kala shah Kakool of London ?

 

[PakPatriot1]

Actually they are not trained for fair politics. Most of them have become politician co-incidentally.

May I ask you if that also includes Kala shah Kakool of London ?

Dunya mein hur cheez ka ilaaj hai, nahi hai tou JAHALAT ka. Get an educated company my brother. If you do not find one then come to nine zero, we will teach you how to behave as a civilized person. We have study circles all around the year.

And now to answer to you, this is true MQM and Altaf Hussain have come to politics and became so much popular co-incedentally. There is no doubt about it. If other parties had shown their maturity in politics MQM and Altaf hussain will never get a chance to come on the front. People support them because they have no other choice.
Every body comes to Karachi to conquer it not to serve it. Only MQM talks about city's real issues. Bad party or Good Party, people don't care about it and they just think at least MQM cares about their problems. So why not go with MQM. This is the main reason why MQM and Altaf Hussain have become so much popular. (YES, CO-INCIDENTALLY)
MQM owns Karachi's problems and Karachi owns MQM. This is two way traffic my friend.

 

[Reliver_Male]

Sirf construction karne se agar qoumo ki zindagi or taqdeer badalti hoti to pharaos, Babylon jesi tehzeebe tabah o barbad na hoti. Kuch satehi zehn rakhne wale nadaan log samajhte he ke karachi me agar chand pul ban gae or sarhke ban gai to ye mazhar he MQM ke sache mohib-e-watan hone ka.
MQM bhi usi lab ki pedaish he jis lab ki pediash PPP, nawaz league, ANP or JUI he.
Pakistan ko agar koi bacha sakta he to wo he, syasi bedari, gheratmand qyadat jo na to mulk se bahir beth kar non-Pakistani nationality le kar waha se syasat kar rahi ho, or na hi mulk ke andar beth kar american, british or dosre darje ke diplomates se dictations le rahi ho.
Hume party bazi se nikal kar sache dil se sochna ho ga ke hume kesi qyadat chahye. Agar hum rang, nasal, ilaqayat or zuban ke hisaar se nikal kar national interests ko samne rakh kar syasat nahi kare ge to ek bheek mangi qoum ban jae ge, jo hum ban chuke he.
Pakistan ki har syasi party ka leader na ehel he, chahe wo tehreek-e-insaf ho ya MQM. Mullahs ho ya socalled lefties.
Hume Pakistan Ultra Nationalist Party chahye, is ke siwa kuch nahi. Jo bhi zuban or ilaqe ko bunyad bana kar apna vote bank bana raha he wo is mulk ka sagga nahi. Jo bhi nazrya-e-Pakistan ko past-e-push rakh kar bolta he wo ghaddar-e-ummat he.
Pakistan me sab jante hein keh ye socalled taliban jo na pakhtoon he or na hi urdu bolte or jante he, jo tarjuman istemal karte he, jo tajik or uzbek hein, wo log Bunair or Deer ke ilaqo me inteshar phela rahe he mulk dushmano ke isharo pe, or Altaf saab mulk se bahir betha Karachi ke logo ko paranoid kar raha he talibanization ka raag alap kar. Kis ke kehne pe ye raag alap raha he or iss se kya gul khilana cahata he? Is ka jawab hume MQM ke purane kartoot samne rakhte hoe ba asani mil jae ga. Guzre hoe halaat aina hote he kirdar ka.
Karachi me land mafia, drug mafia, aghwa barae tawan, daketi, target killing, syasi dehshat gardi, rahzani, rapes, rishwat khori, syasi shutterdown harhtale, jalao gherao ki batein or jitni bhi insecurity he is sheher me, wo chand pul or sarkhe bana kar hal nahi hoti. Agar koi sirf pul or sarhko ko bunyad bana kar sache or jhoote ka faisla karta he to us se zyada bewaqoof or andha shakhs koi nahi ho sakta. Ya to wo wusat-e-soch se mehroom he ya phir ek on duty propagandist he jiska kam mukhtlif nett sites pe MQM kelye PR karna he.
Pakistan ki ek ek syasai party na ehel he saltanat-e-Pakistan ko lead karne ke mamle me. Mullahs bagher kisi syasi shaor ke or bagher kisi qurani shaor ke apna raag alap rahe he. Media me foreign assets kam kar rahe he. Anchors had darja bewaqoof he, akhbarat dhamkio or paise ki bunyad pe sahafat kar rahe hein.
Hume ub apni taqdeer apne haath me leni ho gi. In dinosaurs se jan churhani ho gi. Ek nai subah kelye ek nai awaz lagani ho gi, ke subah hoti nahi jab tak soraj khooni asmaan me doob na jae.

Ye seher jo kabhi fardaa he kabhi he amroz
nahi malom ke hoti he kaha se paida
wo seher jis se larazta he shabistane wujood
hoti he banda-e-momin ki azaan se paida

Hazaaro saal nargis apni be-noori pe roti he
Barhi mushkil se hota he chaman me deeda`war paida
nawa pera ho e bulbul ke ho tere taranum se
Kabotar ke tan-e-nazuk me SHAHEEN KA JIGAR PAIDA

OQAABI shan se jhapte the jo be baal`o parr nikle
sitare shaam ke khoon`e shafaq me DOOB kar nikle
hoe madfoon`e daryaa, zer`e daryaa tairne wale
tamanche mouj ke khate the jo, BAN KAR GOHAR NIKLE

Bhai yeh qaum sahee admi ko to admi hee nahee samjhtee na, criminal qaum hey aur criminals ko hee qiadat saunp detee hey, yakeen kro agar mujhe pakistan ka sada banne ka moka mile to 15 din me sab kuch theek hojae

 

[Typhoon]

yaar Pakpatriot, tum ache khase samajhdar mohibb-e-watan ho. Lekin herat he ke Altaf hussein ke mamle me itne hissas kio ho?
Kitni umar he tumhari?
I know people who knew Mr. Altaf very very well when he was mr. nobody. Hayderabad me jis maskeen ki haweli jala di, sirf is lie ke us ne mazeed meetings karane se mazrat kar di. Kionke waha badmasho ka ana jana or sharab ki mehfile hoti thi. Larkia lai jati thi. Altaf Hussein chand ghundo ke sath aya or hath me patrol se bhara cane lia hoa tha. Us ki ankho ke samne us ki haweli jala di. Us bande ka naam Atal haq he or me zaati tor pe us ko janta houn.
For some days ago i met a person who told me that he has a friend who is commander in Navy. That officer told him that we have clear proves that altaf hussein has been engaged with indian intelligences. But we cannot kill him because it will lead to crisis and anarki in karachi.
Humare ek dost ne Qurbani ki, kehta he khoon abhi gate se bahir nikla hi tha ke MQM ke karkun pohonch gae or kaha "khal lene aye hein", dost ne kaha jinab ye masjid walo ko dene ka wada kar chuke hein. Pistol nikal kar unho ne us ke stomach pe rakhi or kaha "tang na karo, shabash". khal li or sath wale gharo se bhi ese hi zabardasti wasooli ki.
Hum sab pakistanio ko haqeeqat se ankkhe chura kar kuch nahi mile ga. Jhoote ko jhoota kehna parhe ga chahe wo punjab se ho, sindh se ho, Kashmir se ho, Balochistan se ho, Pakhtoonkha se ho ya mulk se bahir ho.
So my dear country fellow, always judge a person by his character, deeds and actions. Not beacuse of he has same ethnicity as you got.
Remember that at Badar we fought against our own fathers and brothers. Ideology is everything, ethnicity is nothing.

 

[PakPatriot1]

To Typhoon
What is my age? Doen't make any difference here. Bus itna samajh lo ke zindagi ka itna tajurba ho gaya hai keh ab Pakistan ko Kaam yab dekhna chahta hoon.
I must say, perhaps some of the stories are real BUT some are absolutely fabricated and nonsense. Just an example for this fabrication. If you go to Lahore, every 3rd or 4th Lahori will tell you that many Sharif Family's opponents have been thrown to the furnaces of Ittefaq Foundary and similar shit you can hear about Chaudharies if you go to Gujrat. Will you believe in these? Absolutely not. So What should I tell you? Covering your own people? Or if I start counting on daily basis every murder in Lahore and next day put this number on internet blaming the killer is Imran Khan or Nawaz Sharif. How's that????
I admit some workers or may be non-workers of MQM are involved in Bhatta Khori and Khal grabbing. They are also doing other crimes. But I assure you this is nothing to do with leadership and the party. Yes Party has done many mistakes in the past and still they are doing mistakes but they have corrected themselves in many areas. They are improving day by day. They are not youngsters anymore, they have a lot of sense and maturity now.
Please note that because of the massive popularity, MQM has number of black sheep in it. If party got the proof , they are expelled right away (MQM Haqiqi is a living example), and these thugs go out and make noise against the party and then people like you, who already have mind set against MQM starts shouting.
Do not forget Karachi is a city of 20 million people. People of every cast, relegion, language, masalik and groups living here. This city also has every kind of Mafia, under ground and over the ground. My dear just tell me is it wise to put every bad thing on MQM's lap?
How about MQM's charity work in Azad Kashmir and recently in Baluchistan at the time of earthquake. How about development work in Karachi? Can you ever imagine this type of progress in Karachi? You can not see all these because you have a biased band on your eyes. If I say every politician comes to Karachi to conquer it not to serve it, then I have a point. Why not Imran Khan starts another hospital project in Karachi? Karachi is his city only for politics, that's it? Nothing else?
One more thing about Ghazwa e Badar, that war was between Haq and Batil not between Baap and Beta. It was the war between Muslims and Kuffar. By giving this example are you telling that MQM is kuffar's party. Sharam karo. Taliban ki or Jamat - e - Islami ki gundi soch per mat chalo. Nafraton mein or kitna aagey jao ge? Mat karo hamarey saath wohi salook jo tum ne Bangaliyon ke saath kya tha. Khuda ke liye jeene do and khud bhi aman se jiyo? Band karo yeh Nafratien, is mulk se sachcha pyar kerne walon ko deewar se na lagoa. Pakistan ko Qaim rehna hai and Insha Allah yeh qaim rahe ga. Befikar hojao, MQM and it's workers are here to save Pakistan.
Maaf Karna agar koi baat buri lagi ho tou. Bohot zakham khaey hein is system se!! ander ki awaaz bahar agai. Sorry brother. Allah Hafiz

 

[Typhoon]

To Pakpatriot

Yaar tum ne mujhe acha khasa misunderstand kar lia he.
Agar mujhe ikhtyar mile ke me Pakistan ki dictionary se ek lafz khatam kar doun, to wo lafz ho ga muhajir. Ye ek esa ghalt lafz he jo sirf or sirf is riyasat ke nazriye ko qatal karne kelie istemal hota he. Pakistan se pehle yahan ke log bhi hindustani the. Hijrat unho ne bhi ki, ek nazryati hijrat. Jo khoon or qurbaniya waha se aane walo ne di, aaj Pakistan ki roots me unhi ka khoon he jo ise qaym rakhe hoe he.
I salute those martyres.
Tum ne kaha ke nawaz & Co ya phir imran khan ke bare mein bhi bohot kuch kaha ja sakta he, to mere bhai zaror kaha ja sakta he. Me to kehta houn jitna corrupt zardari he utna hi mesa or corrupt nawaz he. Imran khan ka filhal hukomat me hissa nahi raha is lie us ke bare me koi ilzam nahi he, lekin us ke khyalat se bhi me mutmaen nahi houn, or nahi samajhta ke us me ek leader ke ousaf hein.
Lahore ho ya karachi, Quetta ho ya peshawar, Muzaffarabad ho ya Islamabad, sab jaga pe inteshar or fasaad he. Mujhe MQM, PPP, PML-N, PML-Q, JUI, PTI, JI or ANP me yakeen mano koi farak nazar nahi ata. Me parties ko rang, nasal ya zuban ki nazar se nahi dekhta. Nazrya-e-Pakistan par imaan he mera or har syasai party ko isi peymane pe parakhta houn. Filhal mujhe koi party is peymane pe poori utarti nazar nahi ati.
Me ne jo bate kahi he Altaf hussein ke bare me, wo us ki zaat ko samne rakh ke nahi ki, balke us ke kirdar ko samne rakh ke ki he or un me koi jhoot nahi shamil kia. Nawaz, Imran ya mulla diesel or Qazi bhi kisi lehaz se Pakistaniyat ki kasoti pe pore nahi utarte. Jamat-e-islami ne to Pakistan ki hi mukhalifat ki thi. Moulana Diesel ka baap ek munkar-e-Pakistan tha, jiska status Pakistan ki tehreek me Abu Jehel ka he.
Herat he yaar ke tum ne ye kese mehsos kar lia ke me nasal parast houn.
Jang-e-badar ki misal dene ka maqsad ye tha, ke nasal se higher hoti he ideology. ideology ko hamesha bunyad bana ke nations bante he, nasal or zuban ko bunyad bana kar nahi. Islam or kuffar ki discusion nahi kar raha yahan pe. Concept ki bat kar raha houn.
Me punjabi nahi houn, me jis nasal se taluq rakhta houn us ko to koi sooba hi nahi mila. waha pe ek tehreek chal rahi he soobe ki maang karne walo ki. Lekin khuda ki qasam hum log hanste he un pe. Agar mujhe moka mile to me un ke leaders ko goli marne me pal bhar bhi na lagao ga. kionke hume soobe nah chahye, hume Pakistan chahye. Meri shanakht sirf Paksitan se he, or kuch nahi. We have to think bigger brother. Me tumhare jazbat ki qadar karta houn, lekin kabhi bhi, kabhi bhi apne aap ko mazlom na samajhna. Aaj Pak fouj ke most higher ranks me urdu speakings hein, watan ki strategic posts pe urdu speakings hein. Shoro se hi ye policy rakhi gai he. Jante ho kio? Is lie ke ye log jab ae the to they were the most educated, or in me salahyat he sochne ki or hosh se kaam lene ki. Lekin unhe khud ko sirf MQM tak mehdod nahi karna chahye. Pakistan ko banane wale kese sirf ek party tak mehdod ho sakte hein. The whole counrty is yours man. Mulk ke har idare me, har kone me, har party me un ki qabliyat ki zarorat he.
Again, agar me MQM ki mukhalifat karta houn to wo party qyadat ki karta houn, Karachi ke log mere lie meri family jitne wajib`ul takreem hein. Altaf ho ya nawaz, mere lie un me koi farak nahi, me dono ko Pakistan kelie zeher samajhta houn. Umeed he ke tum meri baat ko understand karo ge.
I have spent more time with karachians than lahorians. Some of my best friends are urdu speaking. Mujhe bhi mere maa or baap ne apni ilaqai zuban se pehle Pakistan ki national zuban Urdu hi sikhai he. I couldnt speak my local language until i was 19.
Banagaliyo ko bhi wohi rona ro kar warghalay gaya jo Karachians ko muhajir ke naam pe sunaya jata he. Mere bhai i again will say that most of the top ranks in military and bearaucracy are seated by urdu speakings. Musharaf was from a family who moved from bharat after Pakistan was created. The best scholars of Pakistan was socalled muhajirs. Although i hate that word. Becaus in my eyes none of those who moved to a country they self had built, can be considred as muhajir. Akhir ghar banane ke baad hi us me move kia jata he. Urdu speakings ka to pehle haq banta he Pakistan pe, dosro ko to bethe bithae mil gaya.

 

[PakPatriot1]

Thanks Typhoon
I appraciate your Aala Zurfi. We do not want as much as you are giving us. We just want not to be treated as untouchables in Pakistan.
You wrote:

Agar mujhe ikhtyar mile ke me Pakistan ki dictionary se ek lafz khatam kar doun, to wo lafz ho ga muhajir. Ye ek esa ghalt lafz he jo sirf or sirf is riyasat ke nazriye ko qatal karne kelie istemal hota he.

Khuda ki Qasam yeh lafz tou hum jantey bhi nahi thei. Yeh hum ne un alfaaz se khud chuna hai jin se hamein aaj bhi pukara jata hai. If you ever be called "Bhayya", "tilair", "ghus bethye", "matervay", "makkur", "Muhajir" and at last Hindustani, then you can feel the pain. Our forefathers came here as Pakistani na keh woh sub jo mein ne abhi bataya hai.

Do you know why MQM is so much popular, you must know that there are stories of injustice in every Muhajir house in Karachi. Me and my wife both are position holders in our Masters from Karachi University. We never wanted to come here in USA, we wanted to serve Pakistan, but we were denied jobs on our skills and someone who was no match got the job in front of us. I am talking about 20 years now. You can calculate how old I am. This is just a very small example otherwise there are so many bigger than this.

Aaj bhi 14 August ko hum apne ghar mein candle jalatey hein, apne 12 sala betey ke non-Pakistani doston ko dinner karatey hein , un ko Pakistan ki documentary dikhatey hein, qoumi tarana gatey hein, yeh mera ghar nahi, bulkey many so-called Muhajir families doing this . Hum apne ghar mein apne Punjabi, Sindhi or Pashtton doston ko bhi bulatey hein. But, we, all so-called Muhajirs, support MQM (unfortunately for you). Yes, hum MQM ke London Office ke akhrajaat mien apna hissa daltey hein. Why all these professionals and educated people doing this? Why they are supporting a terrorist party? Do not say we are not aware. In this age of technology everbody knows everything. We know the difference between propaganda and the real issues.

Recently, a silly thing happened that Imran khan was denied entry to Sindh. We realized this shouldn't be happened. And leadership had to come forward to talk to Sindh authorities to lift the ban. No one appreciated this.

We still believe that despite of many bad things in them, MQM is the only remedy of Karachi's problem. We have tested everybody, no one has done anything for us.MQM is from withn us, this is the party of our streets and muhallas. Our problems are their problems. They have to work.

Karachi city Lahore ki film Industry nahi hai keh jaagirdaar sahib ka dil chaha tou aaker aik film bana dali, film chali tou chali, nahi tou heroin ke maze tou le liye. Karachi mein survive kerne keliye kaam kerna hota hai, or woh MQM ker rahi hai. Kabhi aaker Karachi ko dekho, tumhari aakhein khul jaengi.

Is keh bawajood mein manta hoon keh MQM aik bohot buri party hogi, magar mere bhai hamare paas koi alternate choice nahi hai.

Please check this website and some other like this, you will find a huge amount of poison about us. Musharraf ko bhi Muhajir hone hi ki saza mili, werna tou Dictators tou pehley bhi aay, or Punjab ke siasat dano ne un ko support kya, lakin Musharaf Muhajir tha or woh MQM ko Karachi mein development se nahi rok raha tha, is wajah se us ke khilaf tahreek Punjab mein chalai gai.

Kahan hein ab cheif justice sahib? kahan hein un ke Suo Moto actions? Kya sari buraiyan Musharraf ke dour mein hi thien? ab sub kuch theek ho gaya hai? Tassub Pakistan ko ghun ki tarah chat raha hai. Mien ne mana hai keh MQM mein bohot burayan thein or ab bhi hein.

But at minimum they are not GHADDARS. The reason? Altaf and Co. know the day they raise a voice for seperation, they will find no place in Karachi.For sure. people will not listen to them. They already had many chances to start civil war in Karachi. But they did not go for it. Just remember the night when BB was murdered and the whole Karachi was on fire. Every channel in the world was screaming that Pakistan is on Civil war, and then Altaf Ghaddar, terrorist and whatever came forward and told his workers to not to take any revenge, just calm down. We have to =save the country. This traitor missed a golden chance for a civil war. Khuda ke liye sachai ko samjho, they are not Ghaddar and you know why? First, they all are patriotics, and for your satisfaction ,because they know their supporters can compromise on anything but not on Pakistan.
Allah Hafiz. God Bless Pakistan.

 

[Typhoon]

:)
Allah aap ko or apki family ko khushia ataa kare. Mere gao me humare nanke ghar ke parhosi he jo hijrat kar ke ae the, un ki borhi mai meri nani ki achi saheli he. ek bar 14 august pe humare chath pe Pakistan ka jhanda lehra raha tha to me ne dekha ke wo burhi mai us jhande ko dekh rahi he or ansso nikal rahe he us ki aankh se. Me ne mamo se pocha ke ye ro kio rahi he, unho ne kaha har 14 august ko ye buzurg aurat isi tarha sara din jhande ko dekhti he or jazbati ho jati he. Meri nani nahi girati thi ansoo lekin wo hijrat kar ke ane wali girati thi. Pakistan us ki rago me dorhta tha.
Mere abu ka acha dost late chacha Abdul Raheem jo humare gao me dukaan chalata tha, us ki biwi 12 saal baad humare gao ai thi, sikho ki qayd se bhaag ke.
Ye sab Qurbanya qarz he is Pak dharti pe or inshallah hum hisab le ge.
Me Karachi bohot dafa a chuka houn, MQM ke ane se pehle bhi or MQM ke ane ke baad bhi, or ankho se dekha he taraqi ke manazir ko.
I`m living abroad, or har dosre saal Pak ana hota he.
Me ne Karachi me ese log bhi dekhe hein jo Quad-e-Azam ko gaali nikalte hein, or ese bhi dekhe hein jo Quaid ke mizaar pe manate mangte hein.
Lahore mein me ne ese log bhi dekhe hein jo minar-e-Pakistan ko penis se resemble karte hein or ese bhi dekhe hein jo minar ki qasam khate hein.
Meri zindagi me do shaks ese ae hein jinho ne mujhe nazrya-e-Pakistan se roshnas karaya or Islam ki sahi roshni dikhai. Dono hijrat kar ke ane walo me se the. Ek Allama Parwez or ek Dr. shabbir.
Dr. Shabbir USA me hi hote hein, shaed aap ko ilm ho.
Humara mulk ek ajeeb mulk he, hum ne apni geographical hudood ki hifazat kelie dunya ki best army bana di, lekin nazryati hudood ki hifazat kelie kuch nahi kya.
Meri doa he ke Allah hume ye toufeeq bhi de.

 

[pakistan2009]

Actually they are not trained for fair politics. Most of them have become politician co-incidentally.

May I ask you if that also includes Kala shah Kakool of London ?

Dunya mein hur cheez ka ilaaj hai, nahi hai tou JAHALAT ka. Get an educated company my brother. If you do not find one then come to nine zero, we will teach you how to behave as a civilized person. We have study circles all around the year.

And now to answer to you, this is true MQM and Altaf Hussain have come to politics and became so much popular co-incedentally. There is no doubt about it. If other parties had shown their maturity in politics MQM and Altaf hussain will never get a chance to come on the front. People support them because they have no other choice.
Every body comes to Karachi to conquer it not to serve it. Only MQM talks about city's real issues. Bad party or Good Party, people don't care about it and they just think at least MQM cares about their problems. So why not go with MQM. This is the main reason why MQM and Altaf Hussain have become so much popular. (YES, CO-INCIDENTALLY)
MQM owns Karachi's problems and Karachi owns MQM. This is two way traffic my friend.

HAHAHA AJ AKHIR AP NAY BATA HI DIYA KAY AP KAHAN SAY BELONG KARTY HAIN. OR HAMAIN YAH PATA HAAI K NINE ZERO MAIN KIA PARHAYA JATA HAI.PHIR AP JO BHI LIKHTY HAIN US MAIN AOKA KOI KASOOR NAHI HAI BHAI....

 

[pakistan2009]

Khuda ki Qasam yeh lafz tou hum jantey bhi nahi thei.

JANAB PAKPATRIOTIC YAH ILFAZ HUM NAY KHUD NAHI CHUNAY YAHAMIN NAWAZY HAIN MR. ALTAF BHAI NAYY.... IS SAY PEHLAY HUM KARACHI KAY MASOOM CITIZEN KAY DIMAKH MAIN BHI NAHI THI YAH BAAT. US NAY APNI SIYASAT CHAMKANY KAY LIYE KARACHI KI AWAM KI NAFSIAT SAY KHAILA.