Responsible of 2/05/11 Army or government

saeed khan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Most of us are saying that ISI and army are responsibly that US helicopters entered and did an operation in Pakistan.
US helicopters entered in our country after a planning of this operation.
Before the operation US sent many Rambos to Pakistan to get different informations for the planning of this operation.
Pakistan government issued visas to these rambos without any investigation.
If Pakistan government did not issued visas to these detectives, US could not do this operation.
Do not you think that our civil government specially Pak ambassador in USA, PM and president are responsible of this incident ? and they should resign.
 

Malik495

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Hamaray awami leader aur foj k aala commanders ...kion k inhain har kaam men hikmat nazar aati hay.. aur yeh to tay hay k hikmat aur bayghairti men buht thora farq hota hay...
tax paeyers k paison se jadeed hathyaar aircrafts sirf apnay hi logon ko maarnay k liye hen america jasay strong enemy k liye nahi jo jab chahay jahan chahay ham sab ko nanga kr k nacha sakta hay.....we all know pakistan army and airforce could stop this viloation of our airspace...bus baat wahin aajati hay k jigra nahi larnay ka kion k IMF ki new installment aur foriegn assets ka kia banay ga agar america se takkar le li to....
iss saray incident k responsible 4 baray hain...

President
Prime Minister
Chief of Army Staff
Chief of Air staff
(ISI cannot take action without the permission of these 4)
 

Young_Blood

Minister (2k+ posts)
simple c baat hai yaar, mera aik gher hai,, gher per main ne chowkidar bhe rekha hoowa hai, magar ba hesiyat gher k malik , main kisi xyz ko ijazat deta hoo k tum jab chahoo mere gher aa jana,,, aur jab main ne ussey ijazat dey de, aur wo aadhi raat ko mere gher per aaey,aur mujhey kisi bhe kisam ka nuqsaan puhncha jaey aur chowkidar so raha hoo ya kisi bhe wajoohat se ussey pata na chalay,, to qasoor war kon hoowa, chowkidar ya main malik makaan,,
zahir hai Malik makaan zumaindar hoowa, jis ne uss xyz ko ijazat de rekhi thi,,,
issi terha iss waqiya ke saari responbility Zardari and Co per jaati hai,,,
2nd-- agar Pak Army ya Air Force alert ho bhe jaati, to main poorey wasooq se kehta hoo, k Zardari and co kabhi permission nahi deti,,
 
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jahanzaibi

Senator (1k+ posts)
Bahi pakistan may kabi civilian govement nahi aai army kay baghair koi nahi aata.. Musharaf nay pehlay zardari ko ragar ragar kay saaf kia nro kay zarya phir la kar
saddar bana dia.. usay to becharay ko 10% say zyada mallom hi nahi shayyad is barr 15% mil raha hay isi lia her waqat khush hay..

Operation army ki ijazat say hooa... america so basis army nay di sari ijazat army ki taraf say hay.. yaar wohi baat hay
1971 may hamary army Generals pi kar nashay may soo rahay thay jo abb hoo raha hay koi nai baat nahi Army Generals aadi hay hain aisi begerti kay



simple c baat hai yaar, mera aik gher hai,, gher per main ne chowkidar bhe rekha hoowa hai, magar ba hesiyat gher k malik , main kisi xyz ko ijazat deta hoo k tum jab chahoo mere gher aa jana,,, aur jab main ne ussey ijazat dey de, aur wo aadhi raat ko mere gher per aaey, chowkidar so raha hoo ya kisi bhe wajoohat se ussey pata na chalay,, to qasoor war kon hoowa, chowkidar ya main malik makaan,,
zahir hai Malik makaan zumaindar hoowa, jis ne ijazae de rekhi thi,,,
issi terha iss waqiya ke saari responbility Zardari and Co per jaati hai,,,
2nd-- agar Pak Army ya Air Force alert ho bhe jaati, to main poorey wasooq se kehta hoo, k Zardari and co kabhi permission nahi deti,,
 

Young_Blood

Minister (2k+ posts)
Bahi pakistan may kabi civilian govement nahi aai army kay baghair koi nahi aata.. Musharaf nay pehlay zardari ko ragar ragar kay saaf kia nro kay zarya phir la kar
saddar bana dia.. usay to becharay ko 10% say zyada mallom hi nahi shayyad is barr 15% mil raha hay isi lia her waqat khush hay..

Operation army ki ijazat say hooa... america so basis army nay di sari ijazat army ki taraf say hay.. yaar wohi baat hay
1971 may hamary army Generals pi kar nashay may soo rahay thay jo abb hoo raha hay koi nai baat nahi Army Generals aadi hay hain aisi begerti kay

Ok bhai agar aap ke abat maan le jaey, to Kal Air chief ne kaha , Gilani PM ke taraf ishara kertey howay k agar Govt kahay to ham Drones rukwa bhe saktay hei aur gira bhe saktay hein,, to kal PM Gilani ne koi jawab kiun nahi dia?
Parliament ne resolution paas ke drones attack k khilaaf 2008 main,, Zardari and Co ne koi action kiun nahi lia?
Mere Bhai Zardari ne apne aap ko girwi rekh dia hoowa hai aur pakistan ko bhe,, america k aagay,,, zardari ko sirf apni kursi aur corruption ke perwah hai,, zardari janta hai k , uss k liay sirf 3 thikanay hein, aik presdident house, agar president nahi rehta to JAIL, aur koi deal ker leta hai, America ke gulami kerne k baad to, mulk se faraar ho jaey ga,,,
 

saeed khan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
simple c baat hai yaar, mera aik gher hai,, gher per main ne chowkidar bhe rekha hoowa hai, magar ba hesiyat gher k malik , main kisi xyz ko ijazat deta hoo k tum jab chahoo mere gher aa jana,,, aur jab main ne ussey ijazat dey de, aur wo aadhi raat ko mere gher per aaey, chowkidar so raha hoo ya kisi bhe wajoohat se ussey pata na chalay,, to qasoor war kon hoowa, chowkidar ya main malik makaan,,
zahir hai Malik makaan zumaindar hoowa, jis ne ijazae de rekhi thi,,,
issi terha iss waqiya ke saari responbility Zardari and Co per jaati hai,,,
2nd-- agar Pak Army ya Air Force alert ho bhe jaati, to main poorey wasooq se kehta hoo, k Zardari and co kabhi permission nahi deti,,

Yar I am surprised I had the same example in my mind and when I opened the thread to write it, you have already written it.
It means most of us has same thinking and we do not blame our army. Alhamd o lillah
 

jahanzaibi

Senator (1k+ posts)
Bahi Gilani kaisay jawab day ga jaab tak Army usay likh kar nahi day gi... wo sirif road per fuzool harkateen ki kar sakta hay
ya uska beeta do numbri. is say zyada aukat nahi hay us ki... bechara zardai bila wajay badnam kay khamoosi say loot raha hay aur sirif 10% litta hay
baki fauj ko wapis kar ditta hay..


Ok bhai agar aap ke abat maan le jaey, to Kal Air chief ne kaha , Gilani PM ke taraf ishara kertey howay k agar Govt kahay to ham Drones rukwa bhe saktay hei aur gira bhe saktay hein,, to kal PM Gilani ne koi jawab kiun nahi dia?
Parliament ne resolution paas ke drones attack k khilaaf 2008 main,, Zardari and Co ne koi action kiun nahi lia?
Mere Bhai Zardari ne apne aap ko girwi rekh dia hoowa hai aur pakistan ko bhe,, america k aagay,,, zardari ko sirf apni kursi aur corruption ke perwah hai,, zardari janta hai k , uss k liay sirf 3 thikanay hein, aik presdident house, agar president nahi rehta to JAIL, aur koi deal ker leta hai, America ke gulami kerne k baad to, mulk se faraar ho jaey ga,,,
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
In this drama, the biggest culprits in order of their guilt are;

1- President Zardari
2- Ambassador Haqqani
3- Rehman Malik.
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I didn't include Gilani in it, because he is no more than a stooge. Army both ISI and PAF may be negligent but not the guilty party.

Zardari issues the directive for the VISAS; Ambassador carried them out by issuing Visas without informing the Army and ISI. Rehman Malik provides them facilities in Pakistan and issue them licences of Prohibited bore arms.

All three should be declared traitors and charged for treason. Americans have clearly said that their commandos were on the ground and had ordered to shoot the Pakistani Army if they respond to the incident.

But unfortunately, our people because of their ignorance do not understand the dynamic of this situation. They on the face of it try to show they are with the army, but they are actually not, they had been trying to subjugate ISI under civilian control, i.e. under Malik control, but it didnt work. Americans, Zardari, Haqqani and Malik were all involved in those schemes.

It had been said by few in discussion programs, the government in private use very bad language for the Army and want them to get the bad name, so PPP government can be secured for another two years. This is their game last as long as possible and steals as much as possible.

How long it will take for Pakistanis to understand their game and act?